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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:01 am
 


Title: Trudeau refuses to refund $20,000 speaking fee to New Brunswick charity
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Posted By: OnTheIce
Date: 2013-06-14 19:52:03
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I think as far as the money goes, too bad he should be able to keep it. But the article does have a point about a public official being paid to speak on matters that regarding public policy such as; furniture for seniors in old folks homes, this home I'm sure receives money from the province in one capacity or another

Hence, a conflict of interest.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:13 am
 


Who's his mentor, Marc Harb?

You'd think common sense would prevail here and he'd pay back the money just for the optics alone. He's coming off as greedy and petty especially considering the Charity event was a flop and he might have been part of the problem.

I wonder how long it's gonna take his handlers to teach him that image is everything and his sucks. :D


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MP's shouldn't be allowed to charge for speaking engagements. When they're retired or no longer sit in the House...that's a different story but this has to change.

I usually attend an charity event in Toronto yearly to support War Veterans and there's always a MP and MPP in attendance to speak and they don't charge for their appearance. I'll note that the MP is Conservative and the MPP is Liberal.


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He needs a new handler. The one he's got isn't doing their job.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:33 am
 


Just the fact that while in office he is getting paid to speak sounds wrong to me. I can't explain why but is he not already getting paid by the public while he holds office. I understand fund raisers for campains and things like that. Doing a charity fund raiser while in office and getting paid to do it just does not feel right to me.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:00 am
 


Understood he doesn't have to return the money, the charity made a deal. It would be a tremendous gesture of good will on his part if he gave it back (less his expenses). It's not like he needs the money, most people in his bracket give to charity, not take from it.

I know some of his paid gigs have been during company time (the House was sitting). Does anyone know if this particular gig was double dipping or the House wasn't in session?


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No taxpayer money was used for Mr. Trudeau to attend the event

Hmmmm. I beg to differ. He is paid for by the taxpayer, and if he is 'busy' doing paid fundraising stuff, he is not doing what he is paid for by the taxpayer.

No PM in office should be allowed to have paid gigs on the side. No one on welfare can without being cut, why should he? Take that $20k out of his salary.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:28 am
 


redhatmamma wrote:
I know some of his paid gigs have been during company time (the House was sitting). Does anyone know if this particular gig was double dipping or the House wasn't in session?


Apparently yes.

http://globalnews.ca/news/643856/brad-w ... king-fees/

Regarding the Sask event.
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The event was held on Monday, April 30, 2012. Records show Trudeau missed two votes in the House that day.


Trudeau’s fee also took up almost half the speaker’s fees – and there were nine other speakers, including Saskatoon MLA Rob Norris who did not accept money



The more I learn about this guy, the more I get the impression he really doesn't give a shit about the country. It's a no brainer this is a conflict of interest, and the rest of us would get fired from our jobs if we pulled the same stunt. I wonder what it's going to take for him to stop doing it.

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Conservative Saskatoon MP Brad Trost agreed he would never accept fees as a sitting MP.

“We contribute, we don’t take. That should be the nature of our job. Our job is to contribute and represent the community,” he said.


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That's bad, how is it deemed ethical to moonlight when the House is in session. I wonder if the ruling he got took that into consideration. If any other type of employee skipped a few days to earn money elsewhere, he'd be fired.


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WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit?
And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay.
You WANT? You BUY.


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herbie wrote:
WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit?
And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay.
You WANT? You BUY.

FAFAIK... He was selling Amway while he was supposed to do his job that is paid for by tax payers. In real life, that would cost you the latter and you can sell Amway 24/7.


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What a sleezeball. Grow up and show us your a better man before you ask for my vote to help you run this country.

I see no ethical way for him to keep the funds.


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herbie wrote:
WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit?
And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay.
You WANT? You BUY.


Except he skipped work (while still being paid) for the speaking engagements and charged them 20K for it. No MP should charge for speaking, he's still an MP.

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JUSTIN TRUDEAU SPEAKING EVENTS
2006-2012

As disclosed by Trudeau’s leadership campaign.

2006

January 14, 2006 – University of British Columbia. $5,000

January 19, 2006 – University of Guelph. $7,500

January 24, 2006 – Wilson Young & Associates Inc.. $7,500

February 17, 2006 – Mastercard Canada. $10,000

March 7, 2006 – Toronto District School Board. $7,500

April 6, 2006 – Toronto School Administrators Association. $7,500

April 20, 2006 – Ontario Catholic School Trustees Association. $7,500

May 3, 2006 – Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. $10,000

May 10, 2006 – Professional Administrators of Volunteer Resoucres. $7,500

May 10, 2006 – Toronto District School Board. $5,000

May 12, 2006 – Toronto School Administrators Association. $7,500

May 13, 2006 – The Learning Partnership. $10,000

June 1, 2006 – Burlington Economic Development Corporation. $10,000

June 7, 2006 – Ontario Association of Children’s Aid Societies c, 20o Meeting Management Services. $7,500

August 23, 2006 – Incentive Works. $7,500

September 30, 2006 – Friends of MacGregor Point Park. $5,000

September 30, 2006 – Waterloo Region Ditrict School Board. $7,500

October 14, 2006 – Nova Scotia Nature Trust. $7,500

October 16, 2006 – Ministry of Education. $3,000

October 20, 2006 – Canadian Parks & Recreation Association. $10,000

October 21, 2006 – The Victoria Foundation. $7,500

October 23, 2006 – Canadian Federation of Independent Grocers. $10,000

October 24, 2006 – Municipality of Chatham-Kent. $10,000

October 26, 2006 – Ministry of Children & Youth Services. $8,000

October 26, 2006 – Ridley College. $7,500

November 2, 2006 – Making Connections. $10,000

November 3, 2006 – Wakamow Valley Authority. $7,500

November 7, 2006 – Ontario School Counsellors’ Association. $7,500

November 7, 2006 – Ontario Hospital Association. $10,000

November 9, 2006 – Federation of Portuguese Canadians Business & Professionals. $7,500

November 10, 2006 – Georgian College. $10,000

November 15, 2006 – Association of Fundraising Professionals. $10,000

November 17, 2006 – Alberta Teachers’ Association. $7,500

November 21, 2006 – Canadian Water Network. $9,000

November 22, 2006 – Carleton University. $10,000

December 6, 2006 – Ministry of Community & Social Services. $7,500

2007

January 24, 2007 – University of Manitoba – Student’s Union. $10,000

February 9, 2007 – Ottawa Carlton District School Board. $10,000

February 11, 2007 – Meridican Incentive Consultants. $10,000

February 15, 2007 – London Convention Centre. $10,000

February 16, 2007 – Reading for the Love of it. $7,500

February 16, 2007 – Association Franco-Ontarienne des Conseils Scolaires Catholiques. $7,500

February 16, 2007 – Toronto Board of Trade. $10,000

February 17, 2007 – Eventful Times. $10,000

February 27, 2007 – George Brown College. $10,000

March 5, 2007 – University of Waterloo. $10,000

March 15, 2007 – Alberta Teachers’ Association. $10,000

April 3, 2007 – Rapport Youth & Family Services. $10,000

May 4, 2007 – New Brunswick Teachers’ Association. $10,000

May 5, 2007 – South Huron District Secondary School Council. $10,000

May 8, 2007 – Community Safety & Crime Prevention Council of Waterloo. $10,000

May 13, 2007 – Blessed Events. $10,000

May 14, 2007 – Canadian Association of Healthcare Philanthropy. $10,000

May 16, 2007 – Leadership Windsor, 20Essex. $10,000

May 17 & 18, 2007 – Niagara Catholic District School Board. $15,000

June 4, 2007 – Educational Computing Network of Ontario. $10,000

June 5, 2007 – London Interfaith Counselling Centre. $10,000

June 7, 2007 – Nova Scotia Co-operative Council. $10,000

June 10, 2007 – Rivers West c, 20o Ugly Duckling Productions. $10,000

June 18, 2007 – Baker Schneider Rugierro LLP. $11,000

June 25, 2007 – American Water Works Association. $10,000

June 25, 2007 – Municipal Finance Officers’ Association. $10,000

July 3, 2007 – Canadian School Boards Association c, 20o Alberta School Boards Association . $10,000

August 21, 2007 – First Nations Water Conference – Smith’s Landing First Nation . $6,000

September 7, 2007 – Human Concern International. $10,000

September 10, 2007 – Canadian Society of Safety Engineering. $10,000

September 16, 2007 – Treasury Management Association of Canada. $10,000

September 24, 2007 – Sudbury & District Health Unit. $10,000

September 27, 2007 – York University. $10,000

October 4, 2007 – Sony Computer Entertainment Canada. $10,000

October 16, 2007 – Ontario Community Support Association. $10,000

October 20, 2007 – Rotary Club of Etobicoke. $10,000

October 24, 2007 – Ontario Secondary School Teachers’ Federation. $10,000

October 25, 2007 – Toronto Law Office Management Association. $10,000

October 27, 2007 – Society of Management Accountants of Ontario. $15,000

November 6, 2007 – City of Mississauga. $10,000

November 8, 2007 – Certified General Accountants Association of Ontario. $10,000

November 16, 2007 – Latornell. $10,000

November 18, 2007 – Canadian Tamil Youth Development Centre. $10,000

November 18, 2007 – National Council of Jewish Women of Canada. $10,000

November 22, 2007 – Toronto Eaton Centre. $10,000

November 28, 2007 – Peel District School Board. $10,000

2008

January 25, 2008 – Ontario Camping Association. $10,000

February 4, 2008 – Canadian Association of Food Service Professionals. $10,000

February 5, 2008 – Peterborough Victoria Northhumberland Clarington Catholic School Board. $10,000

February 9, 2008 – Ontario English Catholic Teachers Association. $10,000

February 11, 2008 – Edmonton Public School Board. $10,000

March 28, 2008 – Charity of Hope. $10,000

March 31, 2008 – Centre for Education & Training. $15,000

April 8, 2008 – Avant Strategic Communications. $15,000

April 9, 2008 – Youth Environmental Network of York Region. $10,000

April 10, 2008 – Canadian Real Estate Association. $15,000

April 15, 2008 – Planners Plus Inc.. $15,000

April 22, 2008 – Packaging Association of Canada. $15,000

April 22, 2008 – First Canadian Place c, 20o Brookfield Properties Corp.. $15,000

April 23, 2008 – The Regional Municipality of Halton. $10,000

April 23, 2008 – University of Ottawa. $5,000

May 6, 2008 – Canadian Mental Health Association – Grey Bruce Branch. $15,000

May 9, 2008 – Children of Hope. $10,000

May 21, 2008 – Notre Dame Catholic Secondary School. $10,000

May 22, 2008 – CIBC Wood Gundy c, 20o The Wynford Group. $20,000

June 3, 2008 – National Healthcare Leadership Conference. $10,000

June 5, 2008 – Humber College. $10,000

June 12, 2008 – Uniter Way of Northhumberland. $12,500

June 13, 2008 – Community Living Ontario. $10,000

June 15, 2008 – Canadian Investors Relations Institute. $15,000

September 8, 2008 – SYSCO Canada. $15,000

October 20, 2008 – London Health Sciences Centre. $10,000

November 5, 2008 – Marketing Magazine – Rogers Media. $20,000

2009

January 31, 2009 – Ontario Library Association. $10,000

November 2, 2009 – The Learning Partnership. $10,000

November 6, 2009 – Waterloo Catholic District School Board. $15,000

2010

March 5, 2010 – Ontario Public Service Employees’ Union. $20,000

April 23, 2010 – Charity of Hope. $15,000

May 7, 2010 – Algonquin & Lakeshore Catholic District School Board. $15,000

September 23, 2010 – REED Construction Data. $20,000

December 6, 2010 – Certified Management Accountants of Ontario . $20,000

2011

January 25, 2011 – Rain 43 (Canada’s National Advertising Week), Toronto, ON. $20,000

June 9, 2011 – Kincardine District Secondary School, Kincardine, ON. $10,000

June 15, 2011 – Credit Institute of Canada, Ottawa, ON. $20,000

2012

April 25, 2012 – Queen’s University, Kingston, ON. $12,000

April 30, 2012 – Literacy for Life, Saskatoon, SK. $20,000

June 26, 2012 – Canadian Mental Health Association – Halton Region, Burlington, ON. $20,000

June 27, 2012 – Grace Foundation, Saint John, NB. $20,000


Couldn't find anything for Quebec in that list. So does that mean he has never had a speaking engagement in Quebec ? Or he doesn't charge for speaking engagements in Quebec.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:44 am
 


Blame the charity for the shortfall, not Trudeau. It wasn't up to him to assess whether the charity's money was being well spent by engaging his services.

On the separate issue of whether he should have been giving paid speeches as a sitting MP, I think he's way out of line, especially if he missed sittings of the House to do so.


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