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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:08 am
 


herbie wrote:
THIRTY ONE THOUSAND DEAD ON TRUMP'S WATCH
And he's fooled the ignorant into blaming WHO and China.

Trump lies as America Dies.


Meanwhile China is starting to admit that this fucking bug really did escape from their bioweapons lab in Wuhan.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:39 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
herbie wrote:
THIRTY ONE THOUSAND DEAD ON TRUMP'S WATCH
And he's fooled the ignorant into blaming WHO and China.

Trump lies as America Dies.


Meanwhile China is starting to admit that this fucking bug really did escape from their bioweapons lab in Wuhan.

Source?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:44 am
 


Tricks wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
herbie wrote:
THIRTY ONE THOUSAND DEAD ON TRUMP'S WATCH
And he's fooled the ignorant into blaming WHO and China.

Trump lies as America Dies.


Meanwhile China is starting to admit that this fucking bug really did escape from their bioweapons lab in Wuhan.

Source?


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President Donald Trump has said "we'll see" about unsubstantiated claims that coronavirus originated in a Chinese laboratory.

In a report attributed to multiple unnamed sources, Fox News said the coronavirus was a naturally occurring pathogen that leaked from a Wuhan facility because of lax safety protocols, infecting an intern, who then transmitted it to her boyfriend.


https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-ca ... lab-claims

Because we can trust Fox News.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:47 am
 


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Firstly, because most pandemics don’t start in Canada.


Aside from curling and poutine not much else has started in Canada. :|

Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... iscoveries

Gotta love anti-canadian sentiment from a moderator on a pro-canadian forum.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:55 am
 


Tricks wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
Sunnyways wrote:
Firstly, because most pandemics don’t start in Canada.


Aside from curling and poutine not much else has started in Canada. :|

Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C ... iscoveries

Gotta love anti-canadian sentiment from a moderator on a pro-canadian forum.

He even got the curling part wrong. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:28 pm
 


So you mean it was just poutine then?

I'm not sure we want to brag about that. 8)

Just kidding. We've done lots. I don't think a pandemic causing virus ever escaped a Canadian laboratory but there were these:

5 made-in-Canada medical discoveries

Doesn't matter though. Another thing Canadians are usually good at with the possible exception of Canadians infected with the Prog virus is taking a joke.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:07 pm
 


You guys still haven't finished punishing Africa by cutting off aid and killing Jane Goodall and every indigenous primate over AIDS yet!

Trump insists he's in charge, all the deaths occurred on his watch. Blaming it on anything else is moot.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:49 pm
 


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You guys still haven't finished punishing Africa by cutting off aid and killing Jane Goodall and every indigenous primate over AIDS yet!

Trump insists he's in charge, all the deaths occurred on his watch. Blaming it on anything else is moot.


I killed Jane Goodall? 8O Funny, I don't remember that. [huh] It's possible, I guess. I was stoned and drunk during most of my black ops days.

Will you settle for oops?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:00 pm
 


Wait a minute...

You had me going there for a minute. Isn't Jane Goodall still alive?

Yeah. She is.

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The WHO Shouldn’t Be a Plaything for Great Powers


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:44 am
 


We trusted the WHO, it trusted China

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The mistake Canada made at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic was that it trusted the information it was getting from the World Health Organization, which trusted the information it was getting from China’s dictators.


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If anyone is interested here's the WHO/Chinese joint study done on the Wuhan outbreak and to be honest it reads more like a North Korean propaganda piece than an factual unbiased investigation, especially when it comes to things like President for life Xi and his gov'ts response..

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Upon the detection of a cluster of pneumonia cases of unknown etiology in Wuhan, the CPC Central Committee and the State Council launched the national emergency response. A
Central Leadership Group for Epidemic Response and the Joint Prevention and Control
Mechanism of the State Council were established. General Secretary Xi Jinping personally
directed and deployed the prevention and control work and requested that the prevention
and control of the COVID-19 outbreak be the top priority of government at all levels.
Prime
Minister Li Keqiang headed the Central Leading Group for Epidemic Response and went to
Wuhan to inspect and coordinate the prevention and control work of relevant departments
and provinces (autonomous regions and municipalities) across the country. Vice Premier
Sun Chunlan, who has been working on the frontlines in Wuhan, has led and coordinated
the frontline prevention and control of the outbreak.


As for the findings and response to this "unknown" virus you'd think the Red Chinese gov't wrote it but thankfully they had help from the WHO who kept them honest and didn't allow them to embellish their part in quelling and defeating the Great Satan virus. XD

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The China Response & Next Steps
1. In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most
ambitious, agile and aggressive disease containment effort in history. The strategy
that underpinned this containment effort was initially a national approach that
promoted universal temperature monitoring, masking, and hand washing. However,
as the outbreak evolved, and knowledge was gained, a science and risk-based
approach was taken to tailor implementation. Specific containment measures were
adjusted to the provincial, county and even community context, the capacity of the
setting, and the nature of novel coronavirus transmission there.


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2. Achieving China’s exceptional coverage with and adherence to these containment
measures has only been possible due to the deep commitment of the Chinese people
to collective action in the face of this common threat. At a community level this is
reflected in the remarkable solidarity of provinces and cities in support of the most
vulnerable populations and communities. Despite ongoing outbreaks in their own
areas, Governors and Mayors have continued to send thousands of health care
workers and tons of vital PPE supplies into Hubei province and Wuhan city.


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3. China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic. A particularly
compelling statistic is that on the first day of the advance team’s work there were
2478 newly confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported in China. Two weeks later, on the
final day of this Mission, China reported 409 newly confirmed cases. This decline in
COVID-19 cases across China is real.


Sure that's what happened and the world was saved by China's quick benevolent reaction to the epidemic. :roll:


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4. China is already, and rightfully, working to bolster its economy, reopen its schools and return to a more normal semblance of its society, even as it works to contain the remaining chains of COVID-19 transmission. Appropriately, a science-based, risk informed and phased approach is being taken, with a clear recognition and readiness
of the need to immediately react to any new COVID-19 cases or clusters as key
elements of the containment strategy are lifted.


So in that short a period of time the Chinese stopped the virus dead in it's tracks and were back in business. Gee I wonder why no other country has been able to accomplish what China did in such a short period of time? Slackers I guess?

And now for the Global Response:

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1. The COVID-19 virus is a new pathogen that is highly contagious, can spread quickly,
and must be considered capable of causing enormous health, economic and societal
impacts in any setting. It is not SARS and it is not influenza. Building scenarios and
strategies only on the basis of well-known pathogens risks failing to exploit all possible
measures to slow transmission of the COVID-19 virus, reduce disease and save lives./quote]
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2. China’s uncompromising and rigorous use of non-pharmaceutical measures to contain
transmission of the COVID-19 virus in multiple settings provides vital lessons for the
global response. This rather unique and unprecedented public health response in
China reversed the escalating cases in both Hubei, where there has been widespread
community transmission, and in the importation provinces, where family clusters
appear to have driven the outbreak.


So it would appear that the WHO and the Red Chinese knew it was going to end up being a pandemic even that far back and still didn't act on the the protocols which were put in place for just such an even?

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3. Much of the global community is not yet ready, in mindset and materially, to
implement the measures that have been employed to contain COVID-19 in China.
These are the only measures that are currently proven to interrupt or minimize
transmission chains in humans. Fundamental to these measures is extremely
proactive surveillance to immediately detect cases, very rapid diagnosis and
immediate case isolation, rigorous tracking and quarantine of close contacts, and an
exceptionally high degree of population understanding and acceptance of these
measures.


Utter bullshit. Communist China always prepared, rest of the world always unprepared. Although in fairness to the rest of the world, how can you be prepared when you're being lied to?

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4. The time gained by rigorously applying COVID-19 containment measures must be used more effectively to urgently enhance global readiness and rapidly develop the specific tools that are needed to ultimately stop this virus.


I think they're talking about the Chinese measures but then again I suppose we failed at that to because we didn't dissappear any of our whistle blowers for telling the world about the virus. Oh well maybe next time.

And finally this must have been what they wanted the world to do but for some reason forgot to mention it till it was far to late to mitigate the problem:

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For countries with imported cases and/or outbreaks of COVID-19
1. Immediately activate the highest level of national Response Management
protocols to ensure the all-of-government and all-of-society approach needed to
contain COVID-19 with non-pharmaceutical public health measures;
2. Prioritize active, exhaustive case finding and immediate testing and isolation,
painstaking contact tracing and rigorous quarantine of close contacts;
3. Fully educate the general public on the seriousness of COVID-19 and their role in
preventing its spread;
4. Immediately expand surveillance to detect COVID-19 transmission chains, by
testing all patients with atypical pneumonias, conducting screening in some
patients with upper respiratory illnesses and/or recent COVID-19 exposure, and
adding testing for the COVID-19 virus to existing surveillance systems (e.g.
systems for influenza-like-illness and SARI); and
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5. Conduct multi-sector scenario planning and simulations for the deployment of
even more stringent measures to interrupt transmission chains as needed (e.g.
the suspension of large-scale gatherings and the closure of schools and
workplaces).
For uninfected countries
1. Prepare to immediately activate the highest level of emergency response
mechanisms to trigger the all-of-government and all-of society approach that is
essential for early containment of a COVID-19 outbreak;
2. Rapidly test national preparedness plans in light of new knowledge on the
effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical measures against COVID-19; incorporate
rapid detection, largescale case isolation and respiratory support capacities, and
rigorous contact tracing and management in national COVID-19 readiness and
response plans and capacities;
3. Immediately enhance surveillance for COVID-19 as rapid detection is crucial to
containing spread; consider testing all patients with atypical pneumonia for the
COVID-19 virus, and adding testing for the virus to existing influenza surveillance
systems;
4. Begin now to enforce rigorous application of infection prevention and control
measures in all healthcare facilities, especially in emergency departments and
outpatient clinics, as this is where COVID-19 will enter the health system; and
5. Rapidly assess the general population’s understanding of COVID-19, adjust
national health promotion materials and activities accordingly, and engage
clinical champions to communicate with the media.


So for us to do any of that would have been in the words of "Dear Leader" racist and xenophobic. So who's lying here. The Chinese, Trudeau or the WHO because none of those measures happened in Canada till it was far to late to stop the spread world wide.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source ... report.pdf

Anyway like I said this Study reads like a Red Chinese Propaganda piece designed to paint them in the best light possible while ignoring glaring issues with their honesty and integrity. It would also appear that the WHO who were in Wuhan and should have been able to see with their own eyes what was really happening chose to take China's bullshit hook line and sinker and become complicit in publishing the propaganda piece this report actually is.


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Freakinoldguy wrote:
Anyway like I said this Study reads like a Red Chinese Propaganda piece designed to paint them in the best light possible while ignoring glaring issues with their honesty and integrity. It would also appear that the WHO who were in Wuhan and should have been able to see with their own eyes what was really happening chose to take China's bullshit hook line and sinker and become complicit in publishing the propaganda piece this report actually is.


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The WHO failed because it is not designed to be independent. Instead, it’s subject to the whims of the nations that fund it and choose its leader. In July 2017, China moved aggressively to elect its current leadership. Instead of fixing any of the problems with the way the WHO operates, Trump seems to merely want the United States to be the bigger bully.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:44 am
 


I don't know who these guys below are. YouTube sends their videos to me. In this episode the China-centric, seeming anchor makes reasonable sounding claims of what's happening in China and the world's reaction. It all contributes to questions concerning China's lies that WHO supports.



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