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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 pm
 


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Yeah, encouraging my country to not give in to the fucker now counts as whining. Whatever. :roll:


Then impose a trade embargo on the US and punish us. [popcorn]


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:22 pm
 


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In Breaking news today, Manafort has just cut a plea deal for his remaining charges including pleading guilty to conspiracy against the US and conspiracy to obstruct justice.

In the deal Manafort pledge FULL COOPERATION with Mueller. Manafort is required to describe any and all criminal activity he is aware of. He is also required to sit for interviews and briefings with the special counsel’s office, to turn over documents, and to testify in other proceedings.

In exchange he will not receive more than 10 years in prison.

The “witch hunt “ is closing in on the coven


Trump might not be the recipient of attention from Manafort's testimony.

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Clinton-connected lobbyist Tony Podesta knew he was working with Paul Manafort on behalf of a Ukrainian politician, according to an indictment released Friday by the special counsel’s office.

Podesta, Manafort and Mercury Public Affairs all failed to register as foreign agents of Ukraine for the work.

Manafort entered a plea agreement with the special counsel Friday.

Two lobbying firms, including one owned by Democratic superlobbyist Tony Podesta, knowingly worked with Paul Manafort at the direction of the Ukrainian government, according to an indictment released Friday by the special counsel’s office.

The indictment, which was released ahead of an expected plea deal for Manafort, the former chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, says that as a part of his “lobbying scheme,” Manafort solicited two lobbying firms in February 2012 to lobby on behalf of then-Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

“Various employees of Companies A and B understood that they were receiving direction from MANAFORT and President Yanukovych, not the Centre, which was not even operational when Companies A and B began lobbying for Ukraine,” reads the indictment. The Centre is a reference to the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based non-profit that the government says was used to support Yanukovych.

Company A has been identified as Mercury Public Affairs, a lobbying shop operated by former Republican Congressman Vin Weber. Company B has been identified as Podesta Group, the firm that Tony Podesta founded with his brother, John, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

Manafort is expected to plead guilty on Friday to conspiracy against the United States and obstruction of justice. He was convicted in federal court in Virginia on Aug. 21 on bank fraud, tax fraud and money laundering charges. He was scheduled to face trial in Washington, D.C. on charges directly related to his consulting work for Yanukovych.

Nobody from Podesta Group or Mercury Public Affairs has faced charges in the case, though the latest indictment suggests that the lobbying firms skirted federal law by failing to register as foreign agents with the Justice Department.

According to the indictment, Manafort knowingly avoided registering with the Justice Department and lied to the government about his work for Yanukovych, who was forced to leave office in 2014.

The indictment lays out evidence that Manafort, his business partner Rick Gates, and employees at Mercury Public Affairs and the Podesta Group were aware they were working for Yanukovych.

The head of Company B, believed to be Podesta, told his employees “to think the President of Ukraine ‘is the client.’”

The indictment also cites evidence that an employee of the Podesta Group realized that the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine was being used as cover for Yanukovych.

“An employee of Company B described the Centre as a fig leaf, and the Centre’s written certification that it was not related to the Party of Regions as ‘a fig leaf on a fig leaf,’ referring to the Centre in an email as the ‘European hot dog stand for a Modern Ukraine,’” the indictment reads. (RELATED: Mueller Referred Podesta Case To New York Prosecutors)

“Company B wrote in an email to its team about a ‘potential representation for the Ukraine,’ having been contacted ‘at the suggestion of Paul Manafort who has been working on the current PM elections.’”

The indictment also says that Manafort, Gates, and “employees of both Companies A and B referred to the client in ways that made clear they knew it was Ukraine, for instance noting that the ‘client’ had an Embassy in Washington D.C.”

Working at Manafort’s direction, Mercury and Podesta Group lobbied dozens of members of Congress, their staffers, and White House and State Department officials regarding a host of issues related to Ukraine, including the validity of its elections.

Manafort frequently briefed Yanukovych on Mercury and Podesta’s lobbying activities. He also tasked the companies to prepare reports that he could provide to Yanukovych.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:05 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
Thanos wrote:
Yeah, encouraging my country to not give in to the fucker now counts as whining. Whatever. :roll:


Then impose a trade embargo on the US and punish us. [popcorn]

Why would we want to punish the US?
It's not the USA that's the problem, it's just TRUMP that's the problem. And applying Occam's Razor, so far Thanos mentioned the easiest solution.....


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:09 pm
 


Here's an example of Fake News...



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BartSimpson wrote:
BeaverFever wrote:
In Breaking news today, Manafort has just cut a plea deal for his remaining charges including pleading guilty to conspiracy against the US and conspiracy to obstruct justice.

In the deal Manafort pledge FULL COOPERATION with Mueller. Manafort is required to describe any and all criminal activity he is aware of. He is also required to sit for interviews and briefings with the special counsel’s office, to turn over documents, and to testify in other proceedings.

In exchange he will not receive more than 10 years in prison.

The “witch hunt “ is closing in on the coven


Trump might not be the recipient of attention from Manafort's testimony.

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Clinton-connected lobbyist Tony Podesta knew he was working with Paul Manafort on behalf of a Ukrainian politician, according to an indictment released Friday by the special counsel’s office.

Podesta, Manafort and Mercury Public Affairs all failed to register as foreign agents of Ukraine for the work.

Manafort entered a plea agreement with the special counsel Friday.

Two lobbying firms, including one owned by Democratic superlobbyist Tony Podesta, knowingly worked with Paul Manafort at the direction of the Ukrainian government, according to an indictment released Friday by the special counsel’s office.

The indictment, which was released ahead of an expected plea deal for Manafort, the former chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, says that as a part of his “lobbying scheme,” Manafort solicited two lobbying firms in February 2012 to lobby on behalf of then-Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

“Various employees of Companies A and B understood that they were receiving direction from MANAFORT and President Yanukovych, not the Centre, which was not even operational when Companies A and B began lobbying for Ukraine,” reads the indictment. The Centre is a reference to the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based non-profit that the government says was used to support Yanukovych.

Company A has been identified as Mercury Public Affairs, a lobbying shop operated by former Republican Congressman Vin Weber. Company B has been identified as Podesta Group, the firm that Tony Podesta founded with his brother, John, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

Manafort is expected to plead guilty on Friday to conspiracy against the United States and obstruction of justice. He was convicted in federal court in Virginia on Aug. 21 on bank fraud, tax fraud and money laundering charges. He was scheduled to face trial in Washington, D.C. on charges directly related to his consulting work for Yanukovych.

Nobody from Podesta Group or Mercury Public Affairs has faced charges in the case, though the latest indictment suggests that the lobbying firms skirted federal law by failing to register as foreign agents with the Justice Department.

According to the indictment, Manafort knowingly avoided registering with the Justice Department and lied to the government about his work for Yanukovych, who was forced to leave office in 2014.

The indictment lays out evidence that Manafort, his business partner Rick Gates, and employees at Mercury Public Affairs and the Podesta Group were aware they were working for Yanukovych.

The head of Company B, believed to be Podesta, told his employees “to think the President of Ukraine ‘is the client.’”

The indictment also cites evidence that an employee of the Podesta Group realized that the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine was being used as cover for Yanukovych.

“An employee of Company B described the Centre as a fig leaf, and the Centre’s written certification that it was not related to the Party of Regions as ‘a fig leaf on a fig leaf,’ referring to the Centre in an email as the ‘European hot dog stand for a Modern Ukraine,’” the indictment reads. (RELATED: Mueller Referred Podesta Case To New York Prosecutors)

“Company B wrote in an email to its team about a ‘potential representation for the Ukraine,’ having been contacted ‘at the suggestion of Paul Manafort who has been working on the current PM elections.’”

The indictment also says that Manafort, Gates, and “employees of both Companies A and B referred to the client in ways that made clear they knew it was Ukraine, for instance noting that the ‘client’ had an Embassy in Washington D.C.”

Working at Manafort’s direction, Mercury and Podesta Group lobbied dozens of members of Congress, their staffers, and White House and State Department officials regarding a host of issues related to Ukraine, including the validity of its elections.

Manafort frequently briefed Yanukovych on Mercury and Podesta’s lobbying activities. He also tasked the companies to prepare reports that he could provide to Yanukovych.



It’s unlikely this deal was made just to convict one of Manaforts sidekicks.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:04 am
 


The following is unconfirmed from one of my RSS feeds:

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BREAKING: A lawyer, who served as White House counsel to former President Obama and Bill Clinton, is being investigated for his role in dealings connected to the case against Paul Manafort, according to reports.

Attorney Greg Craig is facing federal charges for lobbying Ukrainian leaders without registering as a foreign agent.


If true then I imagine this is the run-up to going after the Podesta brothers who worked with Manafort on the Ukraine contracts.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:08 pm
 


RINO's, spooky "socialism", and gutless Democrats - Bill Maher nails it on why the worst opposition in probably all of American history is the gift that keeps on giving to the likes of the GOP and Trump:



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:59 pm
 


The problem with Maher's bleatings about the Republicans 'accusing' the Democrats of socialism is the simple fact that a growing number of Democrats are self-avowed socialists. :idea:

No group of Republicans has to cook up a bullshit story about the Democrats being socialists when more and more Democrats openly call themselves socialists and when some one of them recently suggested renaming the Democrat Party as the 'Democratic Socialists'.

Even CNN knows this is true so kindly don't try to spin this as some sort of GOP conspiracy when it isn't.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/politics ... index.html

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(CNN)For the first time in a lifetime, a wave of Democratic candidates are proudly calling themselves socialists.


See? That's CNN saying this, not some shady group of Republicans. :idea:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:22 pm
 


Breaking from FOX News:

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President Trump has agreed to declassify the Carter Page FISA docs and other documents requested by the House Oversight and House Committee.

FOX News’ John Roberts reported Monday afternoon that the President will issue the declassification order TODAY!


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I could explain the differences between socialism in an actual democracy and the kind that exists in kleptocracies like Venezuela. But it's already been explained to you a thousand different times on a thousand different threads since I've been a member here and you haven't listened once. As such I'm not going to waste my time doing it again because there's no point to it at all.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:24 pm
 


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... retary-34/

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At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:28 pm
 


Thanos wrote:
I could explain the differences between socialism in an actual democracy and the kind that exists in kleptocracies like Venezuela. But it's already been explained to you a thousand different times on a thousand different threads since I've been a member here and you haven't listened once. As such I'm not going to waste my time doing it again because there's no point to it at all.


I wasn't asking you to explain this but that's a nice way to dodge the point that the Democrats in the USA are openly transforming into a socialist party.

Even CNN noticed this.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:34 pm
 


And maybe if capitalism hadn't wrecked even the smallest dreams of an entire generation with their evil fucking stunts, like the one they pulled with the 2008 meltdown, then maybe socialism wouldn't be becoming more popular among those who have been permanently assigned to the underclass.

Don't give me any "by your own bootstraps" bullshit either. Have any of you goddamn guys with your tongues so far up the plutocrats asses that you can taste what they had for breakfast this morning ever bothered to even ask why so many people are either in total despair or are permanently enraged by what's been done TO them by the ones who were already living a life of total luxury free from any material wants whatsoever? Have you ever taken even a single goddamn second to understand ANYTHING at all from the perspective of the actual real victims of this unending winner-take-all carnival?

Of course you haven't ever considered this, not even once. I forgot who I was talking to for a moment. My mistake. Won't happen again. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:45 pm
 


Shit, you can't even hold on to Justin Bieber. :roll:

https://www.narcity.com/gossip/justin-b ... an-citizen


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:50 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-34/

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Statement from the Press Secretary

At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.


R=UP PDT_Armataz_01_37
Trade them for Trump's tax returns?


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