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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:04 pm
 


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Trump caught being a crook AGAIN


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[b]GSA denies Democratic claims but nobody believes them




So it's just CNN and BF owning my ignorant ass again and again and again.

Never thought it was possible but everyone else did . :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:09 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
As to his boorishness? It's a breath of fresh air to some of us who are soooo tired of endless streams of bullshit flowing from official government spokespeople and press releases.

It's catching on, if you haven't noticed. I personally think this is a good thing because politicians are being compelled to speak more openly and honestly because people are now emboldened to call them out on their bullshit.

Not that I agree with everything Trump does. I don't. But he has changed the political scene for the better and after we get past this adjustment period where the left has to get used to people calling a turd a turd again then we'll be fine.

You know that swings both ways right? That means it's also acceptable for calling out conservatives on their bullshit, and calling them turds.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:41 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Strutz Strutz:
Sometimes it's hard to remember that he is the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world when he uses social media, FFS, to call people stupid names, pretty much behaving like a schoolyard bully.

It's getting more ridiculous every day and even the jokes are getting repetitive and tiring.

I certainly hope that in the next US election the American voters are provided with actual legitimate choices for the next president as they, and the rest of the world, deserve better than this.


Trump is using social media and he's effective at reaching younger people who don't GAF about the dinosaur media (newspapers & TV).

As to his boorishness? It's a breath of fresh air to some of us who are soooo tired of endless streams of bullshit flowing from official government spokespeople and press releases.

It's catching on, if you haven't noticed. I personally think this is a good thing because politicians are being compelled to speak more openly and honestly because people are now emboldened to call them out on their bullshit.

Not that I agree with everything Trump does. I don't. But he has changed the political scene for the better and after we get past this adjustment period where the left has to get used to people calling a turd a turd again then we'll be fine.


It catching on is the problem. There’s nothing wrong with speaking truth to power or being iconoclastic.

But Trump is just an asshole through and through. He is making everything worse with his behaviour and there likely isn’t a way back from it.

Nixon was an asshole too but he could actually be nice when the situation called for it because he wasn’t completely dead on the inside like Trump is.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:46 pm
 


Obama was the first POTUS candidate to effectively use social media and it helped him win the Presidency two times.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:59 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
You know that swings both ways right? That means it's also acceptable for calling out conservatives on their bullshit, and calling them turds.


If you really want to get their goat simply stop calling them conservatives. They aren't anymore and that word, as a descriptive term for a now-dead political philosophy, is obsolete and effectively dead. Call them what they are now, radical right-wing extremists who are motivated by nothing but nihilism, and possessed of a deep urge to dominate anyone they see as weaker than themselves in order to cause as much distress and harm that they can.

Conservatism as we knew it, in the United States anyway, is over and done with. Can't beat around the bush anymore and it has to be called out for what it is.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:58 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Tricks Tricks:
You know that swings both ways right? That means it's also acceptable for calling out conservatives on their bullshit, and calling them turds.


If you really want to get their goat simply stop calling them conservatives. They aren't anymore and that word, as a descriptive term for a now-dead political philosophy, is obsolete and effectively dead. Call them what they are now, radical right-wing extremists who are motivated by nothing but nihilism, and possessed of a deep urge to dominate anyone they see as weaker than themselves in order to cause as much distress and harm that they can.

Conservatism as we knew it, in the United States anyway, is over and done with. Can't beat around the bush anymore and it has to be called out for what it is.


Substitute the word Conservative for Democrat and right for left, the same will apply.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:21 pm
 


Strutz Strutz:
Sometimes it's hard to remember that he is the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world when he uses social media, FFS, to call people stupid names, pretty much behaving like a schoolyard bully.

It's getting more ridiculous every day and even the jokes are getting repetitive and tiring.

I certainly hope that in the next US election the American voters are provided with actual legitimate choices for the next president as they, and the rest of the world, deserve better than this.


It's wrong to think that this began with Trump.
He is simply the logical continuation of the leftist media yelling and screaming
at Republicans since oh about Clinton.
Political discourse in the US has really deteriorated, but please don't think
it comes only from one side.

And, it is spreading, worldwide.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:16 pm
 


BRAH BRAH:
Obama was the first POTUS candidate to effectively use social media and it helped him win the Presidency two times.


Remind me again. How many pornstars did Obama call Horseface on social media for outing their extramarital affair?


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$1:
Why Trump’s Supporters Will Believe Any Lie He Tells

President Donald Trump has been bending and breaking laws all of his life. Michael Cohen, his longtime personal lawyer, stated under oath that Trump directed him to violate federal campaign finance law; the state of New York has evidence that Trump and his family have been cheating on their taxes for years; the Trump family’s “persistently illegal conduct” and “repeated and willful self-dealing transactions” have led the New York attorney general to file a lawsuit against the Trump Foundation. The list goes on.

Trump is open about his disdain for law. In April, he told an audience in Michigan that “our laws are so corrupt and stupid.”

Trump is also clear about why he is breaking these laws. The entire point of Trump’s campaign to “Make America Great Again” is to lead us back to a time before the civil rights movement, before laws against insider trading, before the New Deal and federal agencies that regulate the commerce of plutocrats. This was an era of white male supremacy. The rich paid no income taxes and there was no minimum wage, so the wealthy lived like royalty. His thinking is akin to the way past activists viewed sit-down strikes. Like these past civil dissenters, Trump views himself as breaking the laws that he doesn’t believe should exist, which includes most of the laws and regulations put in place since the 1930s.

Indeed, instead of preparing a traditional legal defense, Trump is confounding legal observers by doing things that, by all objective standards, should make matters worse. He obstructs justice openly. In fact, in vowing to “fight back” against the Mueller investigation, he announced his intention to continue obstructing the probe. He also continually changes his story. First, he denies everything (“I have nothing to do with Russia”), then he says there would be nothing wrong if he had accepted help from Russia.

Obviously, a person who keeps changing his story is not a credible witness. Moreover, you can’t devise a legal defense while you are committing crimes, and Trump’s continuing efforts to obstruct justice suggest ongoing criminal behavior.

It’s easy to conclude that Trump has lost his mind and his lawyers are asleep at the switch. In fact, there’s a method to what appears to be Trump’s madness: The president intends to beat Mueller and his would-be interlocutors in Congress by torpedoing factuality and the rule of law itself.

Robert O. Paxton, in his classic work The Anatomy of Fascism, defines a cult of leadership as one in which the followers believe the leader’s instincts are better than the logic used by elites. The followers are willing to give up their individuality and freedom in exchange for the leader’s “protection.” And what is Trump protecting his followers from? Scholars Karen Stenner and Jonathan Haidt offer an explanation. In their essay “Authoritarianism Is Not a Momentary Madness but an Eternal Dynamic Within Liberal Democracies,” Stenner and Haidt describe the psychology behind the fervor of the embrace of authoritarians. A certain percentage of the population has “bias against different others” including racial and other minority out-groups. The authoritarian leader stokes their fears, creating a normative threat. These people then turn to the leader as something of a savior. The leader embraces the mythic destiny of the nation. He doesn’t follow laws. He is the law.


When Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended Trump’s lies by arguing that his false statements actually point to something true, she offered an explanation for why Trump supporters embrace transparent lies. “President Obama was born in Africa,” for example, is a provable lie, but it points toward what to Trump’s supporters see as a deeper truth: President Obama is black, and therefore, isn’t really a real American.

Sanders’ argument is psychologically sound. Scholars Oliver Hahl, Minjae Kim, and Ezra W. Zickerman Sivan, in “The Authentic Appeal of the Lying Demagogue,” explain that those who want to destroy the “political establishment” willingly embrace a liar because they understand that the lies themselves serve a destructive purpose. The people who want to destroy the political establishment today are those who are threatened by growing diversity. Trump’s lies work toward that end.

In a totalitarian regime, state-controlled media normalizes the leader’s constantly changing stories, which serves to further obliterate any notion of a shared truth. Trump’s favorite news outlets similarly normalize his changing stories, thereby undermining factuality. When people can no longer sort out what is factual and what was invented, they conclude that the truth is unknowable. It’s the ultimate in relativism and skepticism. Without facts and a shared reality, jury verdicts have no meaning, and the results of law enforcement investigations are easily manipulated or even dismissed.

Look at what happened when Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination for the Supreme Court was nearly derailed by credible accusations of sexual assault. While the confirmation was in doubt, Trump protested that Kavanaugh was “innocent until proven guilty.” He then ordered an extremely limited investigation of the charges that interviewed a small number of witnesses and didn’t even speak with the accuser or the alleged culprit. Ultimately, he falsely declared that Kavanaugh had been “proven innocent” by the whole charade. This false fact—Kavanaugh was exonerated—now becomes reality to all of his followers.

The same exact dynamic is playing out with the apparent murder by Saudi Arabia of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Trump has applied the “innocent until proven guilty” notion to the Saudi state, even directly comparing the case to Kavanaugh’s. Despite the reported audio evidence of Khashoggi’s brutal dismemberment at the hands of Saudi officials, physical evidence of an attempted cover-up, and the plain fact that Khashoggi entered a Saudi Consulate never to be seen again, Trump is treating the case as a stone-cold whodunit. Don’t be surprised when, in spite of all this evidence, whatever cover story is eventually manufactured for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman, or any other probable culprits, is ultimately accepted as fact by Trump and then by his followers. Once again, the lie will then become the fact.

Steve Bannon explained a broader administration strategy for dispensing with facts. “The real opposition is the media,” he has said. “And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.” Yale professor Timothy Snyder, in his groundbreaking book The Road to Unfreedom, explains in detail how leaders like Vladimir Putin and Trump undermine factuality by flooding the zone in this way. Putin dominates Russia by propagating grand lies that take the entire society off balance. For example, when Ukrainians protested against Putin’s puppet ruler, Viktor Yanukovych, Putin’s press reported that the protesters were organized by an LGBTQ group attempting a “homodictatorship.” Enough people believe the lie—or pretend to believe the lie—that a shared reality becomes impossible.

Part of Trump’s defense against his various investigatory pursuers is to persuade his followers that all politicians are corrupt liars, which is one reason the “Lock her up” chant has been so devastating. If people believe all politicians are corrupt, going after Trump becomes political persecution, or a “witch hunt.”

Trump’s final aim isn’t simply to escape accountability for his crimes. The final aim is to replace democracy itself with a form of autocracy, under which he and his cronies are forever unaccountable for criminal actions. Normalizing lies and flooding the zone shatters the public sphere upon which democracy depends. Without that shared reality, Mueller poses no threat to Trump. Similarly, without a shared public sphere, Trump doesn’t have to worry about resistance. As Yale professor Jason Stanley says, without truth it is impossible to speak truth to power, so there is only power.

The United States is on a steep learning curve. Because truth, factuality, and our very public sphere are under attack, our democracy (and republic) is in danger. The attack is devastatingly effective, partly because we have never experienced anything like this and thus are largely unprepared. Our task now is to save our public sphere. The way to do this was demonstrated by how the Chileans got out of the far more extreme Pinochet regime and reinstated democracy: All sides opposed to authoritarianism and committed to democracy worked together. That means they started actually talking, and listening, to one another. In the United States, this would mean that all groups that claim to be committed to continuing our democratic republic, from supporters of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to Never Trump Republicans, would need to join forces. We will likely soon find out if the nation is up to the task.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... hoggi.html


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BeaverFever BeaverFever:

The same exact dynamic is playing out with the apparent murder by Saudi Arabia of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Trump has applied the “innocent until proven guilty” notion to the Saudi state, even directly comparing the case to Kavanaugh’s. Despite the reported audio evidence of Khashoggi’s brutal dismemberment at the hands of Saudi officials, physical evidence of an attempted cover-up, and the plain fact that Khashoggi entered a Saudi Consulate never to be seen again, Trump is treating the case as a stone-cold whodunit. Don’t be surprised when, in spite of all this evidence, whatever cover story is eventually manufactured for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman, or any other probable culprits, is ultimately accepted as fact by Trump and then by his followers. Once again, the lie will then become the fact.


Proven true today:

$1:
Trump says he believes Saudi explanation for Khashoggi's death, but some lawmakers are skeptical

(CNN) — President Donald Trump said Friday that he believes Saudi Arabia's explanation for the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and called the arrest of 18 Saudis "a good first step."

The Saudi Arabian government announced Friday that Khashoggi died after a fistfight at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, and that 18 Saudis had been arrested for further investigation while Deputy Director of Saudi Intelligence Ahmed al-Assiri had been dismissed.


https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/10/19/politi ... ogle.ca%2F

Just this week Trump and his cult followers were at a rally cheering for a Republican Congressman who was charged with assault for tackling and punching a reporter who asked him a question about health care he didn’t feel like answering.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguar ... er-assault

So the crowd cheered as Trump congratulated and praised a government official for committing criminal violence against a journalist he didn’t like and who also lied about it until an audio recording of the attack surfaced. Is it any surprise he’s supporting the Saudis doing the same against a journalist who has also criticized Trump? Republicans are vile things. America is gone down the shitter


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:32 pm
 


Of course Trump will accept what the Saudis say about the death of Khashoggi.

The Saudis are good guys. Like North Korea and Russia.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:39 pm
 


Huge money to be made in normalizing evil. That's probably the sole point of all this insanity the American voter has unleashed on the world.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:42 pm
 


Nolte: Establishment Media’s Concern for Jamal Khashoggi Is Fake News

Let’s assume the terrible rumors are true, that an unsuspecting Jamal Khashoggi walked into a Saudi consulate in Istanbul only to be tortured and killed.

While there is no question that is an awful thing and we should all feel terrible for him and his family, in the overall, existential scheme of things, it is time to turn off CNN and stop playing pretend.

These things happen pretty much every day in that part of the world, and now we are being conned… Conned by the establishment media with a shiny piece of fake news.

According to the media, over the likely death of Khashoggi, we are now supposed to get twisted into all sorts of knots and drop our support of Donald Trump and want to blow up America’s relationship with Saudi Arabia (our most important ally in the fight against Iran) and give up a $100 billion arms sale that will benefit America and Americans because … a non-American was killed not on American soil.

Again, I am not trying to downplay the horror of what probably happened to Khashoggi. But this is life in the modern Middle East. What’s more, Khashoggi knew the stakes and still he played with fire with his support of the Muslim Brotherhood and other sensitive political activities — not to mention a palsy walsy relationship with Osama bin Laden.

So why are we supposed to care so much about this particular human life that our extreme caring will blow up Trump’s Middle East policy, a policy that actually seems to be working…?

Oooooohhhhh…

I see.

Because Khashoggi was a journalist, a sacred journalist practicing the sacred art of journalism at the sacred left-wing temple of the Washington Post — and this is why his life matters so much more than any other.

Sorry, no.

Call me a monster, but I do not put any additional moral weight on the life of a journalist. Alternately, as much as I despise the media, I do not put any less moral weight on the life of a journalist. When it comes to such things, a life is a life, an individual is an individual, and every human life matters.

And again, I am not here to downplay the terrible and tragic murder of an individual. That is the furthest thing from my point here.

What is flat-out immoral, though, is the establishment media trying to gaslight us into believing a journalist’s life is more sacred than that of a truck driver, construction worker, schoolteacher, or — God forbid — a child.

And yet, in a terrible world where every day in this country innocent children go missing, young black men are gunned down in Chicago, women are raped and murdered, the media demand we pour all of emotional energy and empathy, not to mention our government’s diplomatic resources, into the murder of a journalist because … journalism.

Again — sorry, but no.

I will not be emotionally blackmailed by an arrogant and provincial media abusing its wicked power to place the life of one of their own above the life of all the children who will go missing today, all the women who will be assaulted, all the service men and women currently serving in harm’s way, all the murder victims, all the gunshot victims.

And then there is this simple fact…

Listen close, because this is important…

The media are playing us, are only pretending to care about Khashoggi.

Remember, the establishment media is almost entirely made up of truly awful people who care only about one thing — the left-wing cause. They do not care about you or me, they do not even care about one another, and they sure as hell don’t care about Khashoggi. To them his life is a tool, a prop, a means to a political end.

While I do not doubt that the journalists who actually knew Khashoggi are truly concerned, almost all the hand-wringing you are seeing in the news media over the life of a journalist is fake news.

These people don’t care…

You want proof.

Here are Exhibits 1 – 30…

Outside of Breitbart News, have you heard a single squeak of outrage from a CNN or NBC or Washington Post over the 30-plus Mexican journalists murdered since 2016?

Of course you haven’t!

Because outrage over that particular horror show only works against the media’s left-wing cause of portraying Mexico as an idyllic nation sending us their best and brightest.

This entire Khashoggi narrative is a con, a hustle, a ploy, a cynical tactical maneuver to attack Trump and to undermine his successful (so far) Middle East policy… The media are exploiting this man, using him, weaponizing his death because that death is useful to these monsters.

While I do not put the life of a journalist above that of a waitress or mechanic or coal miner or taxi driver, I can guarantee I care a whole lot more about Khashoggi than those in the media who appear to be absolutely delighted by the fact that his likely murder allows them to fabricate yet another reason to attack Drumpf.

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Breitbart garbage why bother to post crap that only true nutjobs wouldn’t wipe their ass with it?

So many failed arguments. Plus he calls it “fake news “ while admitting it’s true Does he know what the word fake means?

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Of course that’s where the degenerates at Bretibart go: he was a dirty commie journalist who deserved. Human filth like him probably watched the scene in The Handmaid’s Tale this season where we see bloodstains on the wall of The Boston Globe and jerked off at the thought of all the reporters being murdered by a government.

POS article written by a POS person written for idiots who only have empathy for members of their tribe.


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