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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:33 am
 


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Rep. TedLieu: "I'd like to ask you the reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?"

Robert Mueller: "That is correct."

He amended that after for the Intelligence committee and said they never started down that path at all.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:40 am
 


The Daily Mail weighs in...

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'Disoriented' Mueller's stumbling responses to questions during blockbuster hearing leave social media concerned the special counsel seems a 'confused old man' but some think it is all a strategy to frustrate the committee members

Mueller faced members of the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees on Wednesday morning at a highly-anticipated hearing on the Russia investigation

Viewers reacting on social media noticed Mueller stumbled at several points

'Mueller is acting like he doesn't know what's going on,' one viewer wrote on Twitter. 'He's acting like a confused old man'

Some viewers have said Mueller's shaky demeanor calls his report into question

Others think the 74-year-old veteran prosecutor sounds uncertain because he is being overly-cautious about coming off as impartial

Perplexed viewers are questioning Robert Mueller's 'confused' demeanor as he testifies in front of Congress.

The special counsel faced members of the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees on Wednesday morning.

Viewers reacting on social media have noticed that Mueller appeared to stumble at multiple points.

'Robert Mueller comes across as a doddering old fool with a questionable moral compass based on situational ethics who should never have been appointed in the first place based on reduced mental capacity,' one person tweeted.

'Mueller is acting like he doesn't know what's going on,' another wrote. 'He's acting like a confused old man.'

Some are saying the wobbly performance is a delaying tactic on the part of the special counsel to frustrate Republican committee members determined to discredit findings that are damaging to President Donald Trump.

When it came to questions at the core of the report, Mueller delivered firm answers without hesitation.

Asked whether Trump had been exonerated or if he could be charged with obstruction of justice when he leaves office, Mueller replied: 'No' and 'Yes' respectively.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:52 am
 


Mueller got nailed for fabricating a standard of 'justice' that only applies to President Trump.

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On Wednesday morning, former Special Counsel Robert Mueller testified in front of the House Judiciary Committee about his 448-page report. It was released to the public in April after a two-year-long investigation.

Republican Congressman John Ratcliffe didn't waste any time with his brief, five minute questioning period and ripped Mueller for making up a standard of guilt only applicable to President Trump.

"Now your report, and today you said that, 'All times the Special Counsel team operated under, was guided by, and followed Justice Department policies and principles,' so which DOJ policy or principle sets forth a legal standard that an investigated person is not exonerated if their innocence from criminal conduct is not conclusively determined?" Ratcliffe said.

"Which DOJ policy or principle sets forth a legal standard that an investigated person is not exonerated if their innocence from criminal conduct is not conclusively determined? Where does that language come from, director? Where is the DOJ policy that says that? Let me make it easier, can you give me an example other than Donald Trump where the Justice Department determined that an investigated person was not exonerated because their innocence was not conclusively determined?" he continued.

"I cannot but this is a unique situation," Mueller responded.

"Ok, well you can’t—time is short, I’ve got five minutes—let’s just leave it at you can’t find it because I’ll tell you why: it doesn’t exist. The Special Counsel’s job, nowhere does it say that you were to conclusively determine Donald Trump’s innocence or that the Special Counsel report should determine whether or not to exonerate him. It’s not in any of the documents, it’s not in your appointment order, it’s not in the Special Counsel regulations, it’s not in the OLC opinions, it’s not in the Justice manual, and it’s not in the principles of federal prosecution," Ratcliffe continued. "Nowhere do those words appear together because, respectfully, respectfully director, it was not the Special Counsel’s job to conclusively determine Donald Trump’s innocence or to exonerate him, because the bedrock principle of our justice system is a presumption of innocence. It exists for everyone, everyone is entitled to it, including sitting presidents. And because there is a presumption of innocence, prosecutors never ever need to conclusively determine it."


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:26 am
 


I listened to the hearing for awhile.

That crooked FBI agent, Peter what's-his-name got one thing right. "There is no there, there."

What I don't understand is why are they still rooting around looking for more conspiracy in a debunked theory. And which hogs can't keep their snouts out of this buried garbage pile.

It's a House Judiciary committee so I'm going to assume it's Democrats behind this seeing as they run the House. What are they hoping to accomplish?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:37 am
 


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SCHIFF: Trump and his campaign welcomed & encouraged Russian interference?

MUELLER: Yes.

SCHIFF: And then Trump and his campaign lied about it to cover it up?

MUELLER: Yes.


This is obstruction of justice.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:39 am
 


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Mueller is full of shit and clueless as Fuck. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:49 am
 


Hurd seems like a pretty level headed dude.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:51 am
 


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SCHIFF: Trump and his campaign welcomed & encouraged Russian interference?

MUELLER: Yes.

SCHIFF: And then Trump and his campaign lied about it to cover it up?

MUELLER: Yes.


This is obstruction of justice.
No it isn't.

Trying to shit-can Mueller's investigation and Mueller himself was obstruction of justice.

The part you quoted has more to do with collusion etc.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:54 am
 


Tricks wrote:
Hurd seems like a pretty level headed dude.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:08 pm
 


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SCHIFF: Trump and his campaign welcomed & encouraged Russian interference?

MUELLER: Yes.


Then Muller is saying there was Collusion and yet he has said there was no evidence of Collusion. [huh]


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:15 pm
 


I can't find this video on YouTube but it get's to the core of everything. Turns out that under cross examination, Mueller was not as sure of anything as Xerxes little clip would like to imply:

Rep. Louie Gohmert presses Robert Mueller on his friendship with former FBI Director James Comey


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm
 


stratos wrote:
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SCHIFF: Trump and his campaign welcomed & encouraged Russian interference?

MUELLER: Yes.


Then Muller is saying there was Collusion and yet he has said there was no evidence of Collusion. [huh]


There is no crime called 'collusion'. 'Collusion' is part of 'Conspiracy'.

And he definitely said there was that. He just didn't know if there was enough evidence to indict.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:23 pm
 


stratos wrote:
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SCHIFF: Trump and his campaign welcomed & encouraged Russian interference?

MUELLER: Yes.


Then Muller is saying there was Collusion and yet he has said there was no evidence of Collusion. [huh]


The report (Mueller) does not say "no evidence".


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:34 pm
 


Okay so IF there is not enough evidence then well he is innocent. That's how the law works in the USA.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:35 pm
 


N_Fiddledog wrote:
I can't find this video on YouTube but it get's to the core of everything. Turns out that under cross examination, Mueller was not as sure of anything as Xerxes little clip would like to imply:

Rep. Louie Gohmert presses Robert Mueller on his friendship with former FBI Director James Comey


Louis Gohmert is the village idiot who’s a few short a few chromosomes. He doesn’t know shit about shit.


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