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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:12 am
 


Title: Two-thirds of China's cities fail on air standards
Category: Environmental
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2012-03-02 21:20:44


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Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:19 am
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.


*scratches his chin* hmmm, I wonder who that will be :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:51 am
 


Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:58 am
 


xerxes xerxes:
Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


It's a good news story then. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:53 pm
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.



ROTFL ROTFL


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:56 pm
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.


He can't talk right now because him and another family member are advising the Argentine government about the potential Falklands crisis. 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:24 pm
 


I'm more surprised that 1/3rd of the cities passed. What is the requirement? Be able to see the top of a building from the ground?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:48 pm
 


The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.

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I'm more surprised that 1/3rd of the cities passed. What is the requirement? Be able to see the top of a building from the ground?


Don't laugh. There is often a slight haze between our apartment and the ground.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:49 pm
 


"We also want to build up public confidence in the data we provide in order to better serve the public," Wu said.


There is no public confidence in government released environment data, not a bit. What a shame they are lying about even the capital city's air condition.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:16 am
 


xerxes xerxes:
Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :(


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:58 am
 


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xerxes xerxes:
Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :(


In fairness, humidity exacerbates smog problems. In the bad old days in Los Angeles you could look at the humidity for the day and calculate air quality off of that.

The down side of low humidity days coupled with pollution is you get increased ozone levels.

Curiously, in the Sacramento region, every summer day when there's a warning on ozone levels the ozone maps always show the bloom starting at the Intel plant in Folsom. Maybe it's a coincidence, but it's extremely consistent.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:59 am
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.


+1 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:37 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
xerxes xerxes:
Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :(
This is the view I have this morning. it's been like this for a few days. The UV tends to burn a lot of the haze off when it gets warm. The only change to the picture is a polarizing filter. This winter, when air quality is usually at it's worse, was not too bad because we were abnormally damp.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:02 am
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
bootlegga bootlegga:
xerxes xerxes:
Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :(
This is the view I have this morning. it's been like this for a few days. The UV tends to burn a lot of the haze off when it gets warm. The only change to the picture is a polarizing filter. This winter, when air quality is usually at it's worse, was not too bad because we were abnormally damp.


Nice - I guess they must have really cleaned things up in the past decade or so since I lived in Taiwan.


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