[DrCaleb]

Strutz Strutz:

That "registry" is freaking scary.


WTH is Putin's objective with all this? To take over Ukraine completely?

That's phase one, many think. A reunited Soviet Union might be the final goal.

[Strutz]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Strutz Strutz:

That "registry" is freaking scary.


WTH is Putin's objective with all this? To take over Ukraine completely?

That's phase one, many think. A reunited Soviet Union might be the final goal.

Exactly what I was thinking too. Start with Ukraine and move on from there.

Just saw this...

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/diplomats-reach-deal-on-calming-ukraine-tensions-1.1779940

Seems a positive development but will Russia honor their end of this?

[DanSC]

Strutz Strutz:

will Russia honor their end of this?

No

[peck420]

Strutz Strutz:

WTH is Putin's objective with all this? To take over Ukraine completely?

Although Russia will want their "ancestral homeland" at some point, I don't think that was the point of this.

He just wants NATO invested heavily in this area.

Just my opinion, anyways.

[BartSimpson]

A blurb on CNN this morning said that Putin has admitted that the 'insurgents' in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine are actually Russian soldiers.

Anyone else hear this?

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

A blurb on CNN this morning said that Putin has admitted that the 'insurgents' in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine are actually Russian soldiers.

Anyone else hear this?

As far as I know he only admitted that the insurgents in Crimea were Russian soldiers. Doubt he'd admit that the ones in Eastern Ukraine are. That was reported yesterday, during negotiations with Ukraine and US.

[BartSimpson]

Ah, thanks. I was in LA on business yesterday and missed the news until I caught a little bit this morning.

[andyt]

Seems to me that this admission undercuts any denials he might make about Eastern Ukraine, where the Russian population is much smaller. Maybe this means he's ready to back off a bit. Of course he's smart enough to know that if he steps back a bit, Ukraine will disappear from the newscycle, the West will breath a sigh of relief, maybe Obama will do a George Bush and say something like "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country," and then Putin can start up the shit again.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

Seems to me that this admission undercuts any denials he might make about Eastern Ukraine, where the Russian population is much smaller. Maybe this means he's ready to back off a bit. Of course he's smart enough to know that if he steps back a bit, Ukraine will disappear from the newscycle, the West will breath a sigh of relief, maybe Obama will do a George Bush and say something like "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country," and then Putin can start up the shit again.

Good analysis.

[PostFactum]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

A blurb on CNN this morning said that Putin has admitted that the 'insurgents' in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine are actually Russian soldiers.

Anyone else hear this?

I heard, I'll tell you more I've heard it while he was making briefing with journalists. He said that behind shoulders of Crimea people there were russian soldiers.

[llama66]

cue Soviet anthem and unfurl the giant Stalin poster?

To tell you the truth I tried to read that article and I fell asleep, like 4 or 5 times trying to read it.

[llama66]

Really? do we need 45 posts from you about the war in the Ukraine? For your posting convenience we have a thread just for the Ukrainian Conflict located here: current-events-f59/ukraine-violence-grows-merged-t107690.html this way you don't clutter the forum with your propaganda posts.

Warmest Regards,

[llama66]

Is what I think from the title of this thread.

[PostFactum]

1) This are not civilians - they are criminals with Russian army
2) In Geneva agreement - US and EU said that it is right to do military operation against this mad morons.
3) You are paid idiot, who even don't have any proofs.

[PostFactum]

Have a nice day, asshole.