[DanSC]

Thanos Thanos:

There's a lot of Ukrainian descendants in Canada. As Ukrainians were the primary victims of the first wave of Russian Communist viciousness, with upwards of ten million of them being killed in the Holodomor and then in the subsequent deportations to Siberia, it makes emotional sense for such a memorial to be built in Canada. It's understandable that Communists and Communist apologists have a problem with this. They've been making excuses for the mass murderers for a hundred years and aren't going to stop doing it any time soon. Still, some kind of memorial is needed somewhere. It's not like they'd have the guts to put one up outside the UN building, no matter how much it would belong there.

It's also important to note that the Germans advanced so quickly through Eastern Europe because a not-insignificant portion of the population saw them as liberators from Soviet imperialism.

[BartSimpson]

herbie herbie:

You had the war to go with it. Kind of dumb to put a memorial in Canada to something that didn't happen here.

Not so fast, sparky. Don't assume that the Soviets weren't killing people in Canada during the Cold War. You guys were in it up to your ears and the Soviets were after you just as much as any other member of NATO.

[Public_Domain]

What do you mean "killing people in Canada", Bart?

[andyt]

He means as opposed to the US, which was lily white in these matters. I guess from that viewpoint there should be a monument to victims of capitalism, with the depredations of the CIA worldwide, and the supporting of police states by the US. I'm sure that Chileans, Nicaraguans, Columbians etc would support such a memorial.

[BartSimpson]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

What do you mean "killing people in Canada", Bart?

Canada was very much at the forefront of the Cold War and the Soviets inevitably were conducting operations on Canadian soil and against Canadians. To assume otherwise is tremendously naïve.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

He means as opposed to the US, which was lily white in these matters. I guess from that viewpoint there should be a monument to victims of capitalism, with the depredations of the CIA worldwide, and the supporting of police states by the US. I'm sure that Chileans, Nicaraguans, Columbians etc would support such a memorial.

F*ck you, Andy.

[BeaverFever]

Hey a memorial to the Unknmown Victims of Assumed Soviet Murders would go perfectly outside Harper's proposed new supermax prison for the Perpetrators of Unreported Crimes. It's brilliant. It can go right between the Museum of Unreported Alien Sightings and a monument comemorating Brian Williams' daring exploits.

[Zipperfish]

What about the victims of barbarian hordes? Where is their memorial?

[Thanos]

I wouldn't be opposed to a memorial for the victims of capitalism. There should be a statue of a faceless clone-like soldier dressed in 1980's vintage GI issue using the butt of an M-16 rifle to cave in the skull of a Central American peasant while some cigar-smoker that's sculpted to look similar to Rush Limpbaugh laughs and light his stogie. Another one could be of a child labourer in a cell-phone factory being repeatedly kicked by an overseer while a gleeful hipster yuppie opens the box with his new iPhone in it. Or a water fountain with statues of Rick Santelli and Donald Trump pissing into the mouth of another statue on it's knees that's labelled 'loser'.

Communism is evil. Capitalism is evil. Monarchy is evil. Theocracy is evil. It's just Two-Face's double-headed coin in effect over the entire planet and over our entire moribund & deathly uncreative specie. Same shit, different pile. Like the kid was hinting at elsewhere, economic systems aren't in crisis. Economic systems ARE the crisis.

[fifeboy]

Now this guy is feeling left out: Thanks Harper

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

I wouldn't be opposed to a memorial for the victims of capitalism. There should be a statue of a faceless clone-like soldier dressed in 1980's vintage GI issue using the butt of an M-16 rifle to cave in the skull of a Central American peasant while some cigar-smoker that's sculpted to look similar to Rush Limpbaugh laughs and light his stogie. Another one could be of a child labourer in a cell-phone factory being repeatedly kicked by an overseer while a gleeful hipster yuppie opens the box with his new iPhone in it. Or a water fountain with statues of Rick Santelli and Donald Trump pissing into the mouth of another statue on it's knees that's labelled 'loser'.

Communism is evil. Capitalism is evil. Monarchy is evil. Theocracy is evil. It's just Two-Face's double-headed coin in effect over the entire planet and over our entire moribund & deathly uncreative specie. Same shit, different pile. Like the kid was hinting at elsewhere, economic systems aren't in crisis. Economic systems ARE the crisis.

great post!

[fifeboy]

Thanos Thanos:

I wouldn't be opposed to a memorial for the victims of capitalism. There should be a statue of a faceless clone-like soldier dressed in 1980's vintage GI issue using the butt of an M-16 rifle to cave in the skull of a Central American peasant while some cigar-smoker that's sculpted to look similar to Rush Limpbaugh laughs and light his stogie. Another one could be of a child labourer in a cell-phone factory being repeatedly kicked by an overseer while a gleeful hipster yuppie opens the box with his new iPhone in it. Or a water fountain with statues of Rick Santelli and Donald Trump pissing into the mouth of another statue on it's knees that's labelled 'loser'.

Communism is evil. Capitalism is evil. Monarchy is evil. Theocracy is evil. It's just Two-Face's double-headed coin in effect over the entire planet and over our entire moribund & deathly uncreative specie. Same shit, different pile. Like the kid was hinting at elsewhere, economic systems aren't in crisis. Economic systems ARE the crisis.

Damn Dude, I missed your post: Well said.

[Thanos]

There isn't a single economic/political system created yet that doesn't have the explicit goal/intention of taking the individual into the death-grip of it's iron fist and squeezing them to a pulp until there's nothing left to take. That applies as much to capitalism as it ever did to communism or to feudalism. Democracy can spread the illusion to the contrary all it wants but the reality of capitalism is that everyone who isn't among the lever-pullers and button-pushers at the very top is entirely expendable to them and to the overall system. We're here for no other reason than to vote to keep the charade going, to go to work, and to create tax revenue for things that the majority of us will derive zero benefit from over the course of our lives.

[N_Fiddledog]

On the other hand, where do you want to live? Canada or North Korea?

[N_Fiddledog]

Come to think of it, I just thought of something.

I bet you could get a memorial put up for the victims of Capitalism in Pyongyang, with less fuss and opposition than it takes to get a victims of Communism memorial put up in Ottawa.

Hey...maybe they are more free than we are.