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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:30 am
 


Title: We've given up on Canada's military, so let's abandon it altogether
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Posted By: Freakinoldguy
Date: 2018-01-30 01:22:37
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With a flat faced civy attitude like this, it's no wonder socks and his globalist loving minions act like they do towards procurement and sustainability for our military.

I'd like to say I'm surprised but I'm not. As long as we have people in Canada who'd rather spend our tax dollars in foreign aide and social programs rather than on carrying our own weight and doing the right thing by honouring our committments then you're going to have assholes like this spouting off about how we'd be so much better off finanacially if we didn't have a military.

I wonder if his biased thought process has allowed for the fact that without a military we have no place at the table and will have to rely on our neighbour to protect us. But, with that protection comes a price and that price will eventually be our sovereignty which might be what he's really hoping for.

For a laugh I clicked on this guys profile because I wanted to see what his credentials were. Well as it turns out that as a former "diplomat and social entrepreneur" he's not exactly qualified to be an expert critic on military acquisitions, procurement and sustainability but for whatever reason Macleans always seems to be willing to give a platform to rabid anti military people like him which makes me wonder what their agenda is?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:51 am
 


Yeah, definitely sick about the amount of money this country's government throws around worldwide and yet can't find enough money for the citizens of this country or money enough for a properly maintained military.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:29 am
 


The real problem is that Scheer won't be that much better.
Harper wasn't.

The writer is right about one point, Canadians just don't care.
Endless Lieberal governments have turned citizens into gibmedat zombies.

And for those that do care, there is no real political representation
for them to turn to. :?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:42 am
 


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See, there is why Scheer will be a worse choice.

Canada doesn't fly the Saab F-35 Draken. A smart man would know that.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:02 am
 


Just received this by email.....

Canada's BROKE!...1% increase on Seniors' Cheques

Those numbers are astounding when you see them all together like this.

Has everyone decided how they will spend the $0.55 cent a month increase in
our Old Age Security at the end of January?


We read all the jokes and forward the good ones, but I just wonder who will
pass this one on. How about you sending it on, if you have
nerve to do so. Be happy to be of the 1%. Someone please tell me what is
wrong with all the people that run this country!!!

CONSERVATIVES & LIBERALS & NDP, say “We're "broke" and can't help our own... Seniors, Veterans,
Orphans, Homeless, Etc.,???

In the last few years we have provided direct cash aid to:


Hamas - 351 M, Pakistan - 2 B,Libya - 1.45 B, Egypt - 397 M, Mexico - 622 M,


Russia - 380 M, Haiti - 1.4 B, Jordan - 463 M, Kenya - 816 M, Sudan - 870 M,


Nigeria - 456 M, Uganda - 451 M, Congo - 359 M, Ethiopia - 981 M,


South Africa - 566 M, Senegal - 698 M, Mozambique - 404 M, Zambia - 331 M,


Kazakhstan - 304 M, Iraq - 1.08 B, Tanzania - 554 M,


With literally Billions and they still hate us! In total Canada spends
over 5 Billion a year on direct cash support of foreign aid, and 20 Billion
on Immigration & Refugee programs .


Our retired seniors are living on a 'fixed income'. Do they get any
breaks while our government and religious organizations pour hundreds of
billions and tons of food to foreign countries!


We have hundreds of adoptable children who are shoved aside to
make room for the adoption of foreign orphans.


AUSTRALIA, UK , THE USA & CANADA - countries where we have
homeless persons, children going to bed hungry, elderly going without needed
medication and mentally ill and without treatment... etc


YET- We still allow illegals & other free loaders on our shores,
while we are lining up with food, clothes, bedding, doctors and medical
supplies for them. Imagine if the "GOVERNMENT” gave 'US' the same support
they give to other countries. Sad isn't it?


And just recently, didn't our wonderful new P.M.

give 2.6 Billion to Africa to fight climate change!

Who is going to pay off all that largess? Well, it

might be all the young people who voted for such

a lovely sweety pie!


Of course, he's just doing what most politicians have been doing for

a long time. Does it make you feel really wonderful to be so generous?

It would be nice though if some of that borrowed money would be spent on

our own citizens.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:13 am
 


If you folks are going to default your defense to the US then we may as well take over what's left of your military and then occupy your remaining bases before we move on to occupying everything else.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:22 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
If you folks are going to default your defense to the US then we may as well take over what's left of your military and then occupy your remaining bases before we move on to occupying everything else.


You keep putting that forward, as if we had some sort of say in the matter. :|


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:18 pm
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Freakinoldguy wrote:
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See, there is why Scheer will be a worse choice.

Canada doesn't fly the Saab F-35 Draken. A smart man would know that.



Who said you have to be smart to be the PM? Seems to me the walking, talking, military hating "ugh" is living proof of that. ROTFL

Although, I'm glad you did so well on your aircraft recognition course but, unfortunately you appear to have missed the point of the meme.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:34 pm
 


Freakinoldguy wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:

See, there is why Scheer will be a worse choice.

Canada doesn't fly the Saab F-35 Draken. A smart man would know that.



Who said you have to be smart to be the PM? Seems to me the walking, talking, military hating "ugh" is living proof of that. ROTFL

Although, I'm glad you did so well on your aircraft recognition course but, unfortunately you appear to have missed the point of the meme.


The point of a good meme is a little bit of truth in the heavily coated sarcasm. CF-18s aren't dropping out of the sky on test flights, and we aren't flying Saabs.

I'd cut Scheer or Ezra or whoever created the meme a little slack with it if Conservatives hadn't done exactly the opposite of their campaign promises for funding the Military, same as the Liberals. The only two certainties in Canadian politics is that both parties will lie about their support of the military, and if the third or fourth party gets in they will do exactly as Bart suggests and dissolve it completely.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:46 pm
 


Hyack wrote:
Yeah, definitely sick about the amount of money this country's government throws around worldwide and yet can't find enough money for the citizens of this country or money enough for a properly maintained military.

R=UP


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:04 pm
 


DrCaleb wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
If you folks are going to default your defense to the US then we may as well take over what's left of your military and then occupy your remaining bases before we move on to occupying everything else.


You keep putting that forward, as if we had some sort of say in the matter. :|


Abandon your military and you won't.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:11 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
If you folks are going to default your defense to the US then we may as well take over what's left of your military and then occupy your remaining bases before we move on to occupying everything else.


Might as well. The US isn't going to let anything happen to us because we're too important as a buffer against the Russians and as a source of important resources. Canadians aren't sovereignty-obsessive; if we were we wouldn't have so eagerly signed on to the "free" trade deals. Cut a deal for America to take over full continental defense, especially with taking over the northern airbases and coastal patrols (that the US is doing already anyway), and it'd save us a ton of money we could use elsewhere. Hell, I'd sign off on a deal like that ASAP just to be at DND Procurement HQ on the day all the careerist hacks there all get fired.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:13 pm
 


Thanos wrote:
Cut a deal for America to take over full continental defense, especially with taking over the northern airbases and coastal patrols (that the US is doing already anyway), and it'd save us a ton of money we could use elsewhere.


In exchange for what ?

Oh I know, the oil in Alberta ought to pay for it. :roll:


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