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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:11 pm
 


Title: Why electric cars complicate rescue work by firefighters
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Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2019-12-31 13:15:11
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:11 pm
 


Wow. Now this is something I certainly have not considered. Hopefully all fire departments everywhere are provided with the info they need to avoid a tragedy from happening.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:57 am
 


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Wow. Now this is something I certainly have not considered. Hopefully all fire departments everywhere are provided with the info they need to avoid a tragedy from happening.


Firefighters have had this since the days of the Prius. ~20 years. It's standard information, just like how a tank of gasoline can go off like a bomb if heated.


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In the Anarcky, the fire-fighters union and the insurance companies work out a deal so that everything is priced in for their special clients.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:17 am
 


The other issue is that every car fire involving an electric car is a hazmat event due to the heavy metals and toxic compounds like cyanide that are involved.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:44 am
 


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The other issue is that every car fire involving an electric car is a hazmat event due to the heavy metals and toxic compounds like cyanide that are involved.


As opposed to a regular car fire, that produces all sorts of toxic compounds? [huh]


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:04 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
The other issue is that every car fire involving an electric car is a hazmat event due to the heavy metals and toxic compounds like cyanide that are involved.


As opposed to a regular car fire, that produces all sorts of toxic compounds? [huh]


Yup.

https://www.fireapparatusmagazine.com/2 ... wist/#gref


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Pretty sure that current firefighting gear accounts the best it can for things like fumes from burning oil, grease, or paint. The shit that comes out of exploding batteries is something else though, and I imagine the battery in the electric cars that are three/four/five times the size of the ones in the traditional vehicles are going to be one mother to have to deal with. We won't know for sure though, maybe in five or ten years, until there's far more of these vehicles on the roads.

Gonna take a cheap shot at the enviro crowd over this one because it's another example, just like the windmills killing off millions and millions of birds and bats, where their peachy-keen view of things falls apart when it encounters actual reality. I'm not against electric cars for any reason whatsoever. Just don't sell me some bullshit panacea of pure inoffensive or undamaging goodness when it obviously doesn't exist. Everything has it's negatives, and those aren't magically wiped away by any of it's inherent positives. This is where liberals and their agenda do nothing but damage their own credibility because EVERYTHING that exists has it's dark side.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:23 am
 


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Not to mention Darth Vader's Dark Side Stout! [B-o]


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Pretty sure that current firefighting gear accounts the best it can for things like fumes from burning oil, grease, or paint. The shit that comes out of exploding batteries is something else though, and I imagine the battery in the electric cars that are three/four/five times the size of the ones in the traditional vehicles are going to be one mother to have to deal with. We won't know for sure though, maybe in five or ten years, until there's far more of these vehicles on the roads.

Gonna take a cheap shot at the enviro crowd over this one because it's another example, just like the windmills killing off millions and millions of birds and bats, where their peachy-keen view of things falls apart when it encounters actual reality. I'm not against electric cars for any reason whatsoever. Just don't sell me some bullshit panacea of pure inoffensive or undamaging goodness when it obviously doesn't exist. Everything has it's negatives, and those aren't magically wiped away by any of it's inherent positives. This is where liberals and their agenda do nothing but damage their own credibility because EVERYTHING that exists has it's dark side.

To say nothing about how the lithium in those batteries has to mined and processed, which aren't exactly an environmentally-friendly activities either.


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To say nothing about how oil extraction and processing, which aren't exactly an environmentally-friendly activities either.

FTFY. Hell you can say that about mining and processing of anything. Oil, steel, copper, lead or anything else you use on a daily basis.


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To say nothing about how oil extraction and processing, which aren't exactly an environmentally-friendly activities either.

FTFY. Hell you can say that about mining and processing of anything. Oil, steel, copper, lead or anything else you use on a daily basis.


That is Capitalism; internalize profit, externalize costs.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:40 am
 


Yet so many would stop all progress to preserve the worst aspects of capitalism. You know, like how they should bring back incandescent bulbs because LEDs make his face look orange, ban wind power over birds, stop solar because kids mine the materials at gunpoint, etc.
Basically, they're convincing you humans are too stupid to fix things, better to not do shit.
I mean hell, we obviously didn't come up with H bombs, Me 262s and going to the moon all by ourselves, only by conspiring with ancient aliens!


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