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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:23 am
 


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Doc, you shouldn't let facts get in the way of eureka's rhetoric.


Not in my nature EB. ;) I have to teach when I see incorrect facts. Even if the student will learn nothing from it.


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I've heard wind farms are full of hot air.


I'm not sure where I stand on wind farms. There's so much spin.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:29 am
 


I prefer the calculations of those who work with these things. I also prefer to ignore nitpicking or I would search for the source of that information.

Actually, you might like to read this and some distance down there is a part about the use of the batteries of electric cars and hybrids. It is nit the one that I was referring to and I do not know where that was. It is, however, a more useful commentary.

Forgot the link!

http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2170


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:43 am
 


SprCForr wrote:
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I've heard wind farms are full of hot air.

I'm not sure where I stand on wind farms. There's so much spin.

I find a piece of information, then another, and another... then I find out that I'm back to where I started.
It's as if I'm going round in circles. :?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:48 am
 


raydan wrote:
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DanSC wrote:
I've heard wind farms are full of hot air.

I'm not sure where I stand on wind farms. There's so much spin.

I find a piece of information, then another, and another... then I find out that I'm back to where I started.
It's as if I'm going round in circles. :?


I think I'm just going to let the wind take me in the direction it's blowing.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:52 am
 


OK, the first two were good, now you're just passing wind.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:53 am
 


Here is a recent study that says that the output from Wind Turbines can be increased tenfold.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071311.php


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eureka wrote:
I prefer the calculations of those who work with these things. I also prefer to ignore nitpicking or I would search for the source of that information.


I have a degree in Computer Engineering, and Computer Engineering Technology. With my Honours in Physics and Chemical Thermodynamics, I can design a computer starting with the raw chemical elements and ending with a fully functioning laptop. (a pitiful one, but it would work!)

Basic electronics is a first year, first week course and I have more than 20 years in the field. You can take my rough calculations as facts, or you can believe some random post on the internets that you may or may not remember correctly from some random person who may or may not be qualified to give an opinion.

If you don't, I'd suggest to you; to reflect upon that as perhaps a symptom of all the hostility you seem to be attracting lately.

Your call.

eureka wrote:
Actually, you might like to read this and some distance down there is a part about the use of the batteries of electric cars and hybrids. It is nit the one that I was referring to and I do not know where that was. It is, however, a more useful commentary.


You said 'car battery'. As in, Lead Acid. But the Nickel Metal Hydride of a Hybrid makes little difference, except for the ability of it to deliver current. The hybrid batteries would deliver more current for longer than a lead acid, but "a light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long".

House current is 240/120 volt at 100 amp. Your average gas furnace draws 30 amps just powering up the fan. A stove can draw 50 amps at 240 volts.

The batteries in a hybrid would still not be able to fully power a modern home for any significant length of time. And definitely not 7 homes.

If you find the article, I would like to read it. I could use the laugh.


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eureka wrote:
Here is a recent study that says that the output from Wind Turbines can be increased tenfold.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071311.php


How much can they be increased when there is no wind?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:06 am
 


andyt wrote:
OK, the first two were good, now you're just passing wind.


Sorry, that just blew right by.


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SprCForr wrote:
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OK, the first two were good, now you're just passing wind.


Sorry, that just blew right by.


What are you, an airhead?


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DrCaleb wrote:
eureka wrote:
Here is a recent study that says that the output from Wind Turbines can be increased tenfold.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071311.php


How much can they be increased when there is no wind?

At least 10 times... 10 * 0 = 0
Even a thousand... 1000 * 0 = 0 :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:14 am
 


SprCForr wrote:
I think I'm just going to let the wind take me in the direction it's blowing.

I always lean in the direction she's blowing. :?



Oh!!! Wait a minute... wrong f**king thread. :oops:


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Smexy.

(CGI of an Arizona State students idea)

That's damn cool and if possible very practical, the only problem I could see with them is the location for servicing during the day which would hold up traffic unless it was done during the night..


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:29 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
eureka wrote:
Here is a recent study that says that the output from Wind Turbines can be increased tenfold.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071311.php


How much can they be increased when there is no wind?


There is always wind somewhere. All that is required is a large grid and adequate storage.

And it does not matter what I wrote. It is still car batteries.

For anyone actually interested, here is a lengthy, and somewhat negative analysis of WP. The site is one that actively favours nuclear and has many pieces on that.

http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/10/29/gws-sg-es/

This is a video that gives the positive side and answers the "Bird killer" opposition. Wirh a couple of links below that are informative.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/05/0 ... the-month/


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