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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:42 am
 


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Well I'd love to see the research on that one but it doesn't seem to be readily available for some reason.


Because Cannabis has been a Schedule 1 drug for decades, and the US will vilified any country that tried to change that. It was on Schedule 1, meaning it had no medical use. And because it was on Schedule 1, getting a permit to conduct Medical research on it was impossible, because it had no medical use. Catch 22.

That's why there was no research on it. But with it being legalized in many places now, we are starting to see research on it.

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The evidence for cannabidiol health benefits

CBD has been touted for a wide variety of health issues, but the strongest scientific evidence is for its effectiveness in treating some of the cruelest childhood epilepsy syndromes, such as Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which typically don’t respond to antiseizure medications. In numerous studies, CBD was able to reduce the number of seizures, and in some cases it was able to stop them altogether. Videos of the effects of CBD on these children and their seizures are readily available on the Internet for viewing, and they are quite striking. Recently the FDA approved the first ever cannabis-derived medicine for these conditions, Epidiolex, which contains CBD.

CBD is commonly used to address anxiety, and for patients who suffer through the misery of insomnia, studies suggest that CBD may help with both falling asleep and staying asleep.

CBD may offer an option for treating different types of chronic pain. A study from the European Journal of Pain showed, using an animal model, CBD applied on the skin could help lower pain and inflammation due to arthritis. Another study demonstrated the mechanism by which CBD inhibits inflammatory and neuropathic pain, two of the most difficult types of chronic pain to treat. More study in humans is needed in this area to substantiate the claims of CBD proponents about pain control.


https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/can ... 8082414476

And CBD is even being recognized as a medicine in the US, and being sold in many pharmacies.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/is ... to-science


Believe what you want but for me curing cancer will be a "I'll believe it when I see it" case. As for the other claims, the information is coming in but why in the states has it only been approved for such few treatments of things like childhood epilepsy or to treat nausea in cancer patients and getting aids patients to eat?

It apparently isn't working in reducing the opiod epidemic which is probably due to the fact that it does sweet fuck all for severe pain.

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There are several reasons as to why any reported benefit will be outstripped by lack of benefit and increased risk of harm, and why cannabis is contributing to ongoing opioid use, and subsequently, the opioid epidemic. There is evidence in animal models showing adolescent rats exposed to THC will develop enhanced heroin self administration as adults11 which may be due to activation of mesolimbic transmission of dopamine by a common mu opioid receptor mechanism.11,12 More than 90% of heroin users report a prior history of marijuana use compared to a prior history of painkiller use (47%).13 Prospective twin studies demonstrated that early cannabis use was associated with an increased risk of other drug abuse.14 This particular study was conducted when the THC content was much lower than todays products which can reach 95% THC.

The currently accepted body of evidence supporting use of cannabis in pain consists of 28 studies comprised of 63 reports and 2,454 patients.15 Additional articles relying on this primary paper misleading stating that “there is substantial evidence that cannabis is an effective treatment for chronic pain in adults.”16 Both articles noted that products typically studied are not available in the United States (nabiximols, Sativex) or were with available synthetic agents (dronabinol, nabilone), and were studied in less common pain conditions: neuropathic and cancer pain. Currently there is no widely available or accepted medical literature showing any benefit for pain with dispensary cannabis in common pain conditions.17 Dispensary cannabis is a generic substance containing multiple components which may have physiologic activity in the body. The College of Family Physicians of Canada outlined potential prescribing guidelines of medical cannabinoids in primary care.18 They strongly recommended against use for acute pain, headache, osteoarthritis, and back pain, and also discouraged smoking.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6140166/

So given alot of Canadians in pain suffer from the highlighted conditions and have been prescribed medical marijuana it's scary to think that we might be getting sold a bill of sale just to shut us the fuck up. But I will attest to the fact that it doesn't work for severe osteoarthritis and back injury unless of course, you mix it with opiods which apparently isn't as safe as they first made it out to be.

So I'll repeat what I said before. If it works take it, if it doesn't don't but don't expect it to be the miracle drug that cures every physical ailment under the sun because, it isn't, no matter how much people want it to be.


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So I'll repeat what I said before. If it works take it, if it doesn't don't but don't expect it to be the miracle drug that cures every physical ailment under the sun because, it isn't, no matter how much people want it to be.


And as I wrote before, if you believe every snake oil salesman, you haven't been paying attention.


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I can state without hesitation that it's helped me immensely with the inflammation problems in my lower back.

Helped the old lady too. Me, I was skeptical cuz there's no science but I fucked my back up in May. Got to the point my legs were numb, I was falling down, when I stood I got this intense pain like my legs were being pulled from their sockets. Pain was so bad that if I rolled over in my sleep it woke me up! Tried some of her gummies and slept thru the night.
So I'm being scientific. Repeat over and over, it works. For me anyway.
Half this town is on it for arthritis and chronic pain.
My purely unscientific observation is that THC helps too. :D at least adds some fun into picture...


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It was a traditional folk remedy for thousands of years all across the planet and was only rendered illegal thanks to the moral-scold assholes in the US who simply can't tolerate anyone having any sort of fun. Y'know, the same ones who brought in temperance with alcohol which led to the Mafia going from being mere street thugs to wildly rich, powerful and having their fingers in every pot where dark money can be made. Based on that massive social and legal failure alone isn't it long past time we altogether stopped listening to the allegedly "moral" religious twerps about anything? :?


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I can state without hesitation that it's helped me immensely with the inflammation problems in my lower back.

Helped the old lady too. Me, I was skeptical cuz there's no science but I fucked my back up in May. Got to the point my legs were numb, I was falling down, when I stood I got this intense pain like my legs were being pulled from their sockets. Pain was so bad that if I rolled over in my sleep it woke me up! Tried some of her gummies and slept thru the night.
So I'm being scientific. Repeat over and over, it works. For me anyway.
Half this town is on it for arthritis and chronic pain.
My purely unscientific observation is that THC helps too. :D at least adds some fun into picture...


I had a very busy weekend. Back was sore, hips felt like they were being torn out of their sockets every time I tried to stand up. Can't feel my left foot.

Few puffs of a high CBD strain, and all was good. CBD is no more a miracle cure than Gluten free or celery juice, but it does some things pretty well.


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I had a very busy weekend. Back was sore, hips felt like they were being torn out of their sockets every time I tried to stand up. Can't feel my left foot.

Almost exactly my symptoms! MRI says arthritis, when it flares it presses more on the spinal nerve.
Almost every older person I know with arthritis is swearing by CBD


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I had a very busy weekend. Back was sore, hips felt like they were being torn out of their sockets every time I tried to stand up. Can't feel my left foot.

Almost exactly my symptoms! MRI says arthritis, when it flares it presses more on the spinal nerve.
Almost every older person I know with arthritis is swearing by CBD


Same as me. Arthritis is growing out of my spine and pinching the psyatic nerve, causing numbness and pain in my legs and hips. If I sit leaning forward, like if I try to ride a bike, it feels like my hips dislocate when I stand. One day, I'll need hip replacements.

Till then, I grew 2 nice big CBD heavy cannabis plants this summer. 8)


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