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<strong>Written By:</strong> rearguard
<strong>Date:</strong> 2006-08-24 13:13:00
<a href="/article/11301818-crtc-asked-to-block-access-to-us-websites">Article Link</a>

"We want Blogger to enable free expression, including the hosting of views and opinions that are unpopular," Google spokesman Steve Langdon said. <br><br> <a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1156369811829&call_pageid=968332188492">Rest of story here</a>


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<p>It's amazing that the sites haven't been pulled from the web altogether by the department of homeland security. It probably won't be that long before they are. Not that I'm in favour of doing so, I am just saying that freedom of speech must be one of the last rights a US citizen has.</p><p> Freedom of speech in canada seems to have been abandoned in favour of "hate laws". Ever notice that the only people charged with hate crimes in Canada are the ones that say negative things about jewish people?</p> <p>Notice I didn't say "Jews".</p><p>---<br>Canada for Canadians



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Restricting access to sites "promoting hate" sounds like a good idea on paper. However, it is quite obvious that doing so may also be the "thin end of the wedge" in censoring and restricting access to sites deemed "inconvienient" by whatever group, party etc. happens to have the governments ear at that time.

It also would allow for the government to "proactively" restrict access without any group registering any complaint whatsoever in the interests of promoting their own agendas.

In short, I think the idea sucks and should be tanked asap.

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Warman is a perfect example of a Zionist Jew hiding behind the various Zionist-created organizations created by them in Canada in order to dismantle our rights to freedom of expression. He's been advocating violence against people here in Canada and was complicit in attacks upon the person of David Icke in Vancouver a few years back. He's backed by the Zionist created Human Rights Commission which is nothing but a Jewish front organization like the Bnai Brith and the Anti Defamation League and the rest of the them. It's the Zionists backing the Anti Racist Action groups as well. Here's an example of Warman's warriors in action only a couple of weeks ago when they attempted to attack Paul Fromm's home in Ontario. This sort of shit by the these Zionist freaks needs immediate address or else they'll be sending anyone they like to German jails in order to cover their guilt-ridden asses!

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Paul Fromm's Home Attacked by ARA Goons

PORT CREDIT. About 25 members of the violent "anti-racist" ARA attacked PaulFromm's townhouse in the quiet historic community of Port Credit at 2:00 this afternoon. The police failed to keep them entirely off condo property,as the law requires, but did stop them about 100 feet from his door.

Marching under the flag of communist Cuba, they shouted: "Nazi,Nazi, Nazi, out, out, out!" "Nazi Klan Go Hand In Hand" and "Die Nazi Scum!"Many startled neighbours came out to see the spectacle. Many of the thugs wore bandannas and ski masks. Peel Region Police squad cars, bicycle police and cops on foot and eventually six members of the mounted union kept them at bay.

The police foolishly let them park in the parking lot of a small mall with a health club out back of Fromm's townhouse. The terrorists then tried to get at the back yard, but were restrained by a fence, Fromm's 20 supporters and eventually the police.

White Nationalists, old and young, converged from across Southern Ontario to help protect Mr. Fromm.

Prominent among the protesters was Shane Ruttle Martinez who is to be a witness in a Canadian Human Rights complaint against the B.C. White Pride website later this fall. Martinez ran in the January federal election for the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist).

One of the ARA protesters held aloft a poster proclaiming: "Thanks Rcihard Warman for the bus rental." The Ottawa lawyer and chronic human rights complaint filer -- 20 and climbing -- addressed the ARA in the summer of 2005. His speech about tactics marked him as a guru to these streets brawlers. His talk was entitled "Maximum Disruption: Shutting Down the Neo-Nazis by (Almost) Any Means Necessary." He praised the ARA for their demonstrations, many of them violent, against publisher Ernst Zundel in the 1990s. The ARA had distributed posters showing how to make a molotov cocktail and giving Mr. Zundel's address. The German historical revisionist's home was firebombed on May 8, 1995.

Paul Fromm has been a prominent foe of Warman's. Mr. Fromm has defended several of Warman's victims in Canadian Human Rights tribunals, where Warman has complained about the victims' political views expressed over the Internet. In the recent Terry Tremaine case in Ottawa, Fromm's incisive cross examination exposed Warman as less than forthcoming and a witness with a porous memory. The Tribunal chairman Michel Doucet rebuked Warman on several occasion for failure to disclose key information to the defence.

Relying on a lengthy affidavit by Warman. the Canadian Human Rights Commission sought unsuccessfully to remove Mr. Fromm as Mr. Tremaine's agent or defence. The Commission has threatened to try to remove the renowned free speech crusader from the upcoming challenge to the constitutionality of the Internet censorship law which is being challenged in the Marc Lemire case.

The foul mouthed protesters vowed: "We will be back" and "We will burn you out." Officers on the scene said these were not criminal threats.

Shane Ruttle Martinez falsely charged that Melissa Guille of the Canadian Heritage Alliance had had a Downe's Syndrome child and proclaimed that "White Nationalists kill babies that are not perfect."

"The policing left a lot to be desired," said Fromm. "I met with Const. Darlene Smith of the Peel Regional Police intelligence squad on August 14. I explained the vulnerabilities of the property and insisted that the mob be kept off condominium property and the private parking in the strip mall out back. Instead, the police allowed the ARA goons onto the condo and to park their bus in the mall. They should have been kept back several hundred yards."

The ARA handed out a libellous leaflet mentioning Mr. Fromm's exact address and charging: "Fromm is a prominent neo-Nazi leader -- the primary one for all Canada."

The ARA has a long history of violence. In 1993, the smashed windows and threw excrement into the East End Toronto home of activist Gary Schipper. They have assaulted peaceful free speech protesters during and after demonstrations demanding the release of political prisoner. They have attacked political meetings and smashed doors and windows. After Officer Todd Baylis was murdered by a Jamaican drug dealer illegally in Canada, they hailed the killing as a blow against the police.

There was no damage to property, no injuries and no arrest.



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Isn't David Icke the englishman who claims that earth is being subjugated by 13 families of lizard people who have their claws into everything that happens on earth?

If Mr Icke was correct it's a safe bet that he would have disappeared years ago, or been dealth with in some form of "accident".

Maybe someone should inform him, and you, that the Age of Reptiles ended over 120 million years ago.

Nice touch with the Anti-Zionist rants.

Nothing says "credibilty" quite like the vitriolic spewing of venom designed to inflict "splash damage" on Jews who in all likelihood are innocent of any wrongdoing done by so-called Zionists.







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Some info here. Bill White, the master of the sites in question, spent a number of years posing as an anarchist. His anarchism was of the mass-media sterotypical kind, nutty, extreme and violent. We always thought of him as a loose cannon. But then he started larding his site with anti-semitic and racist comments. Then we realized he was a closet Nazi. After a while he came out of the closet. White is a piece of shit and quite possibly a pig agent, which would explain why nothing ever happened to him, either as an "anarchist" or as a Nazi, no matter what he says or does. Paul Fromm is another piece of Nazi garbage, and while I believe in free speech, if ARA was to string him up by his minute testes you wouldn't find me complaining too loudly. The only thing I have against making a big deal about the swastika-wearing types like White and Fromm is that they are a diversion. The state will never be taken over by them. They are violent clowns. The real fascists are smooth and wear the garb of respectability. They are called neocons.


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"... the swastika-wearing types like White and Fromm is that they are a diversion. The state will never be taken over by them. They are violent clowns. The real fascists are smooth and wear the garb of respectability. They are called neocons."

You hit the nail right on the head. These guys are fakes at best, nutters at worse, but always clowns not worth taking seriously. Which is why the action being taken against White is not being done to "protect us" but is done to remind us that we need to be protected.


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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke">David Icke</a> wrote a fictional book that Warman (and others) somehow interpret as being an anti-semitic attack on Jews in general. I have not read the book myself so I cannot comment on it. <br><br> First page of chapter 1 here: <br> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0953881016/ref=sib_dp_top_ex/102-5222081-0520939?ie=UTF8&p=S00R#reader-link">Children of the Matrix: How an Interdimensional Race has Controlled the World for Thousands of Years-and Still Does (Paperback)</a> <br><br> Warman appears to be obsessed with attacking people with certain views that he (or more likely his hidden pay masters) disagree with, see this: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Warman">Richard Warman</a> <br><br>


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They are fakes and nutters is right.

What is to stop a person from using a proxy if they really wanted to visit those sites anyways?


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You're right, there's no simple way to stop people from accessing these sites (which btw are NOT yet being blocked).

As you mentioned, you can use a proxy server, or you can use anonymous netowrks such as TOR and I2P. Even if these so-called "hate sites" were made illegal in the USA, there are many other ways to get the same message out, for example through usenet and P2P messaging.

As mentioned, these Nazi-like people are most likely fakes, which are designed to give nutters like Warman the excuse they need to lobby government for more oppressive laws, and to test these laws out for effectiveness, esp where free speech is concerned.

Who cares about White? Had blocking his site out not been attempted, then none of us would even know his website existed. The attack on our civil liberties in this case only served to make us aware of Bill White and the issues of censorship in this country, but even after knowing about White, does anyone actually care if his site is able to be accessed or not, or are we more worried about the censorship attempt?


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I think it's ridiculous. It's like all the cover-up and 'anti-nazi' legislation in Germany. I used to play a fighter plane simulator game, and the German guys weren't allowed to have swastikas on their tailplanes, because it was illegal in Germany for any computer game to display the swastika (I believe the symbol is illegal in ALL forms of printed media).

What is the end result? A whole bunch of curious German boys who now want to know EVERYTHING about their 1940's history.

The only stuff I would agree to banning would be child porn sites. I think those guys should be hunted down, shot and pissed on.

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Decon writes:

"Maybe someone should inform him, and you, that the Age of Reptiles ended over 120 million years ago.

Nice touch with the Anti-Zionist rants.

Nothing says "credibilty" quite like the vitriolic spewing of venom designed to inflict "splash damage" on Jews who in all likelihood are innocent of any wrongdoing done by so-called Zionists."
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Judging from your comments above De-con I do think your argument about the Age of Reptiles ending is a bit premature.

As for your accusation of "vitriolic spewing of venom" at best you're revealing yourself as a blind, misinformed apologist for the very forces destroying this nation and every other one on the planet with the exception of Israel.

Your ignorance is inexusable and your assertion that I am making generalized accusations against "Jews" in general is pathetic and misleading. Why don't you get your shit together and do some basic research, wipe the layer of froath off your mouth, and say something sensible in the context of what's happening in the world today?

A good start would be to research the origins and agenda of the Zionists. Maybe while your at it you could also research the ARA group and ADL. The point of mentioning Fromm and Icke was to illustrate the hidden agenda of Jewish cabal running the various shows. Obviously you could give a shit that Zundel is in a German prison merely because he questioned the Holocaust fraud that's been perpetrated upon the world. That basically makes you a pro-Zionist. Congratulations. Another traitor in the ranks.




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Further to my comments to deacon.

After posting that reply I got to thinking about all you armchair critics of people like David Icke, Paul Fromm, Ernst Zundel, myself, etc. and I began to see a pattern. On one side of the equation stand a few individuals who have the courage of their convictions to speak out against those who they’ve realized are conning the majority of people via their stranglehold over the media, the money and the governmental minions who perform the duties imposed upon them by these Zionist taskmasters. On the other side we have the faceless, no-name-brand apologists who, through their ignorance and egoism and vanity, sincerely believe they’re being of service to their nation by attacking those who have ripped the veil off the face of this gargantuan hoax known at Political Zionism. And so we end up with the Zionist flak-catchers like “deacon” and “anarcho” (gawd forbid!) “rearguard” and “no 1important” etc., who obediently, with every feigned outrage, continue laying down, stone by stone, the very pavement upon which these Zionist usurpers will then roll over and crush out every civil liberty this country once possessed! And all alone they’ll be patting themselves on their respective egos and reinforcing their delusion that they’re being quite patriotic and nationalistic.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Duped as you are while the country goes down the drain before your eyes you continue to perpetuate the myth that it’s just those bad corporations and conservative policies and all the “Nazis” who are at fault. I can only say wake up, do your homework and find out what the hell is really going on and then stand up and show us your name and the face behind it. Otherwise you’re just being a bunch of hypocritical, faceless fools making childish accusations at the expense of all the victims of this universal crime against humanity.


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Arthur, you sound just like Bill White when he was still an anarchist (supposedly) You are heading down the same slippery slope. You fail to realize that anti-zionism does not have to be anti-semitism. You play right into the hands of the right-wing zionist-neocons who claim the two are equal. Furthermore, "the enemy of my enemy is not my friend." Nazis like Zundel, Fromm and White are not our allies. They have their own agenda which is the direct anti-thesis of the people here whether they are conservative, liberal,social democrat or anarchist. And don't be agast that "anarcho" would take such a position. The anarchist movement is at the forefront in fighting fascism and always has been. Over the years hundreds of thousands of our militants have died fighting the sort of people you want us to get pally-wally with. Sorry, but no!


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"That basically makes you a pro-Zionist. Congratulations. Another traitor in the ranks."

I've been to Icke's site, and I've seen him interviewed on non-biased TV shows. I personally believe he's playing with only half a deck, but seeing as we all believe in free speech here I'm entitled to that.

"Why don't you get your shit together and do some basic research, wipe the layer of froath off your mouth, and say something sensible in the context of what's happening in the world today?"

If you've read any on my postings concerning the truth behind 911 and the current fiction being passed of by Bush and co as the truth, and the Bush families confirmed ties to Nazi Germany you'd know better than to attempt to take me to task for not saying "something sensible in the context of what's happening in the world today".

"Obviously you could give a shit that Zundel is in a German prison merely because he questioned the Holocaust fraud that's been perpetrated upon the world."

You're right. I don't give two hoots about Zundel, but I strongly disagree with him being put into prison simply for stating his beliefs regardless of how far out there they may be.

No one should be imprisoned for merely having ideas.

The only reason you even dare call me a "Zionist" is because I have the nads to go at you head on and tell you precisely what my honest opinion of your point of view is.

That you cannot accept it is hardly cause for me to be concerned.

As for being a traitor, perhaps if I was was truly an aniti-semite who blames the Jews for everything your accusation would have some grounding in truth.

However since I am neither anti-semite, nor Zionist, your accusations such as they are count for absolutely nothing.


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