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<strong>Written By:</strong> jensonj
<strong>Date:</strong> 2007-01-14 10:56:24
<a href="/article/75624839-financial-backing-offered-to-oppose-us-domination">Article Link</a>

Ahmadinejad called it a "very important" decision that would help promote "joint co-operation in third countries," especially in Latin American and African countries.

Chavez - a close ally of Cuban President Fidel Castro whom Washington sees as a destabilizing influence - has pledged the equivalent of billions of dollars worth of help to the region in foreign aid, bond-buyouts and preferentially financed oil deals.

Ahmadinejad's visit Saturday - his second to Venezuela in less than four months - comes as he seeks to break international isolation due to his country's nuclear program and possibly line up new allies in Latin America.

<a href="http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2007/01/13/pf-3361675.html">http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2007/01/13/pf-3361675.html</a>







[Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on January 15, 2007]


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"Chavez - a close ally of Cuban President Fidel Castro whom Washington sees as a destabilizing influence - ..."


The only "destabilizing influence" in this hemisphere is the United States government.

Nicaragua
Costa Rica
El Salvador
Panama
Guatemala

The list goes on...

The coup d’état and/or civil war have always been the USGov's favourite means of creating "stability" in the region.

However that "stability" is exclusively for 1) Us Corporations or 2) the ruling classes of those nations, those rich elites who have curried favour with the US government.

For the US Government to call Chevez a "destabilizing influence" is absurdest in the extreme; especially when US history throughout Central and South America is full of blatant interference in the affairs of allegedly "sovereign" states.


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"Death to U.S. imperialism!"

God how I love the sound of that.


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... and indy is on the phone to his Broker looking for profit
ROTFLMAO

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who is indy?


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He also goes on to say that his country and Iran will support the OPEC nations and withhold oil exports untill the price goes up. We will see who gets inflamed then.

The US has faced opposition in south and central America before. Too many people died and the lives of others changed forever. The yanks don't even consider it cruelty. They deserve retaliation but will turn it around as an offence against the world. It won't be the US who suffers.

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Individualist

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<blockquote> It won't be the US who suffers </blockquote> Not the Fortune 500 part of the US. But the ordinary citizens now............?<p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
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There are no straight lines in the universe, or in history, only circles.

All empires work on the principle of air breathing rockets, or engines.

Takeoff with a huge input of faith and violence collected energy, soaring into the sky in a blaze of glory, then, coasting in a gradual downward curve as the fuel runs out and the opposition represented by gravity takes hold, tumble, the ever increasing downward speed to the final crash, completing the circle.

The history of all past and present empires. Even Iran was once one, then called Persia. How about the Macedonian empire of Alexander and the best recorded history of them all, Rome, not to mention the USSR.

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very interesting...<br />
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from <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6261721.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6261721.stm</a><br />
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<blockquote><br />
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has pledged closer ties with Nicaragua as he continues his Latin America tour.<br />
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[...]<br />
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The Bush administration is watching Mr Ahmadinejad's tour closely, says BBC Latin America correspondent Duncan Kennedy.<br />
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As well as meeting Mr Chavez and Mr Ortega, Mr Ahmadinejad is also due to attend the inauguration of Ecuador's leftist new President Rafael Correa.<br />
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It is also expected that the Iranian president will meet Evo Morales of Bolivia. </blockquote><br />
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Latin America + Middle East?...


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This is indeed interesting.

And the truly brilliant part is that it will hurt the US government far more than any perceived weapons program ever could, and at far less expense.

For the cost of a trip to Central and South America, he's put the scare into Bush and Co.

The US is at Iran's back door with troops and weapons, and Iran is returning the favour with olive branches and trade agreements.

Anything the US does using arms would be seen by the entire world, and no amount of spin could change what it would be perceived to be.

I'm sorry, but this move by Ahmadinejad, who is far from my favourite leader, is absolutely brilliant.



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...not to mention the USSR.<<

So true. The USSR was also by the people for the people. The walls being built by the USA will eventualy fall but to the demise of others. Presently they are more afraid of their ego getting tarnished. They won't leave Iraq, merely because they feel they are being judged on their bravado. They don't recognise their failure(s). Just how do you make reason with a rock?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:19 am
 


I wonder if Canada would like to have some fiancial backing of this kind, because we suffer from a lot of US domination.



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<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/15/correa-ecuador.html">http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/15/correa-ecuador.html</a><br />
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We've by and large been brought up in a world of superpowers, where large countries vie for power and dominance. But, like Gulliver's capture by the Liliputians.....size ain't everything.<p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:50 am
 


Interesting article. One bit caught my attention:

"But some Ecuadorians worry that his real goal is to consolidate power in the presidency, as Chavez and Morales have done in Venezuela and Bolivia, AP said."

Since we just finished reading how Chavez is actually doing the exact opposite - building up LOCAL power in the communities AND they don't point to Bush who is TRULY trying to draw all power into the presidency, I think we can conclude that AP isn't exactly a non-biased "news" source so much as a Bush mouthpiece.


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