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Title: Speak Up and Say I'm Pro-Democracy, Not Pro-Rogue
Topic: Canadian Politics
Written By: sthompson
Date: Thursday, December 04 at 13:03
Harper has won his request to shut down the House and avoid a confidence vote that would surely have defeated him.
We are now staring down the barrel of what we know will be a massive propaganda campaign on the part of the Conservative government (and it pains me to use that term, considering without the confidence of the House, it has no right to govern).
So how do we as Canadians fight back?  What can we do between now and January 26?  
Today, you might consider joining the many pro-coalition rallies now going forward, and speak out about being pro-democracy, not pro-rogue:
http://www.makeparliamentwork.ca/
But it's time to brainstorm about what else we can do...
 
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[alyoung]

An MP's primary purpose is to represent his constituents. I say it's a big failure to do anything that would contravene this duty, which as polls show are overwhelmingly the case.

The coalition is undemocratic in spirit because these politicians are making a power-hungry grab for power, with no respect to the people. They never asked the people, they never consulted the people. They care only for themselves, their careers and their bruised egos from losing the last election. Their motivations alone should prevent you from supporting them. Their official reasons are so lame, no-one is stupid enough to believe it, and this will be proven when the next tabled budget will address their concerns and they will still vote against it. Why? Because they don't care for the people. If they do, then they would have asked them in the first place.

[Individualist]

Never count Harper out!

[sthompson]

Polls show a lot of confusion if anything, mainly because people are foggy on how our democracy works and what has actually happened. You should that yourself in buying the line that the coalition was undemocratic, when in fact it was perfectly democratic. What is undemocratic is Harper not letting the parliament vote on whether he still has their confidence. He is avoiding a vote by shutting down the house--not ensuring everyone has their say and their vote, through their MPs, as he had promised, next Monday.

As for polls, things are changing too quickly to predict where everything will end up. Unless you count pro-Con talk radio in Calgary, which is hardly scientific.

So Harper didn't make a grab for power by trying to cut all the other parties off at the knees by cutting their funding?

And who is Harper helping by shutting down parliament? He's clearly looking out for number 1, himself. Not you and me.

[alyoung]

Every single poll shows Canadians oppose the Coalition, and would support the Conservatives over a Coalition. Every.. single.. one. The average opposition against the Coalition is 60+ %. Respect the will of the people, it's that simple. Any politician who does otherwise serves himself by definition.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada ... id=1024055

[PhariseesinFlames]

Bullshit alyoung, the real poll was the election, and counting # of MPs Harper lost to the other three parties.

He's Prime Minister, not President.

[RickW]

$1:

They never asked the people

Crap! Here we go again......You just don't understand (or care to understand apparently) how our Parliamentary system works. When a voter casts a vote, (s)he is voting for the person running to sit as MP in a riding. (S)he is NOT voting for a party or a Prime Minister. When that person is elected, if that person so chooses, he or she MAY or MAY NOT form alliances with other MPs. But for all intents and purposes, that person is fully independent, and the condition under which (s)he acts as an MP, allows her or him a certain autonomy. Otherwise, the constituents would be voting on every move the MP makes.

Consequently, that MP, in representing a riding, conducts his or her business with that in mind. In this instance, a number of MPs in an alliance, have decided that the best way to represent their constituents, is to form a coalition to give them a working majority in Parliament.

IF we were voting for a party, there would be no names on the ballot, only poltical parties.

Now what's so hard about that -- except maybe your understanding of politics 101 in this country.

[SphinxMontreal]

"Every single poll shows Canadians oppose the Coalition, and would support the Conservatives over a Coalition. Every.. single.. one."

Anyone who reads or believes these "polls" should work for the self-serving piece of garbage propagandists who are controlling the mainstream media.

"The average opposition against the Coalition is 60+ %. Respect the will of the people, it's that simple. Any politician who does otherwise serves himself by definition."

A politician serving himself by definition? Yeah, like a politician who suspends Parliament for six weeks because he has his fat ass up against the wall due to his own arrogance and incompetence?

[sthompson]

So we didn't vote for a coalition...then I guess we voted to suspend parliament for 6 weeks? Oh wait, we didn't vote for that either, but I don't hear anyone who buys Harper's self-serving BS crying about that.

[sthompson]

Oh, and here are some more pro-coalition websites for you, with petitions:

http://www.62percentmajority.ca/home

http://www.progressivecoalition.ca/

[islandcynic]

alyoung, clearly you don't know anything about Harper's past. Please look into his pre-politics life. This guy hates everything public. Health care is his baby to destroy. He hates our health care system. He wants to privatise it. Privatise everything. Sell it off to the highest bidder. He wants his majority in the worst way. Yup. He cares for the people all right. He even hates Canadians, documented in a speach he delivered to Amerika.

Sorry, can't support your dictator.

[RickW]

Harperisms:
http://www.tranquileye.com/stockwell/harper.php