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Title: Suffocating Group Think - The Climategate Inquiries
Topic: Environment
Written By: Milton
Date: Monday, September 27 at 09:20
Andrew Montford

Foreword by Lord Turnbull
 
We have to take a self-critical view of what happened. Nothing ought to be swept
under the carpet. Some of the inquiries – like in the UK – did exactly the latter. They
blew an opportunity to restore trust.1
--Hans von Storch, Professor of Climatology, 2 August 2010
When in November 2009 a large archive of emails and files from the Climatic
Research Unit at the University of East Anglia appeared on the internet a
number of serious allegations were made including:

• that scientists at the CRU had failed to give a full and fair view to policy
makers and the IPCC of all the evidence available to them.

• that they deliberately obstructed access to data and methods to those
taking different viewpoints from themselves;

• that they failed to comply with FOI requirements;

• that they sought to influence the review panels of journals in order to prevent
rival scientific evidence from being published.

Even if only some of these accusations were substantiated the consequences
for the credibility of climate change science would be immense. This was at a
time when the international negotiations on climate change were foundering
(though not to the extent that they have done subsequently), and when, in
the recession, the public and businesses were beginning to question the costs
they were being asked to bear in order to achieve fundamental changes in
our society.
 
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[Dr Caleb]

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... th-rattle/

http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/pre ... ts/oxburgh

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 2545a.html

Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

[Milton]

Yes, no need for scrutiny cause that rhymes with mutiny.

[Brent Swain]

This myth, propagated by the oil, gas and coal company funded, climate change deniers, was totally debunked recently.

[Milton]

Bull!

[Brent Swain]

Those so called "Scientists" are heavily funded by the oil gas and coal companies.
No whore like an old whore.

[Milton]

Got some specifics to share or are you one of those pseudo scientists working on the AGW scam (now known as climate change).

[Brent Swain]

CBC radio listed the huge amounts of money given by oil companies, to so called "scientists" lobbying to scrap California's environmental protection laws, which were aimed at reducing co2 emmissions.

[Milton]

Details? Link? Don't think much of oil companies, BP comes to mind.

[Brent Swain]

Climate change deniers are being manipulated and played for suckers by the oil gas and coal companies. They should be embarassed by their gullibility.

[Milton]

People who use the phrase "climate change deniers" to refer to other people are most likely a part of the carbon capture credit financial scam and the oil companies are part of the scam as well.

[Brent Swain]

Yes, there are scammers, who will scam anything which comes along, for fun and profit. Has nothing to do with the existence of climate change, just their motives and methods.
Bio fuels are a good example, which actually increase environmental problems including global warming in the proccess, as does the scrap the junkers program , and the proposals for nuclear power.
The presence of the inevitable scammers doesn't have anything to do with the existence of the problem, too many people burning to much carbon. It would be incredibly dense to believe the 3 million cars China is putting on the road each year, plus the millions of cars the rest of the world is putting on the roads each year , has no effect on the super thin atmosphere we depend on.
The oil gas and coal industries have a huge financial stake in employing scammers, and saboteurs , to discredit the climate changes warnings we are experiencing, so they can continue on business as usual.
They are required by law to ignore long term economics, and realities , for short term overnight share values.

[Milton]

Where is the data to support your assertions about global warming? While your tracking that info down keep an eye out for studies that show that the global warming, which you assert exists, is not being caused by the sun.

Carbon capture credits are issued to those sequestering carbon or owning biological events which accomplish that purpose. Those who spew carbon into the atmosphere buy carbon credits to be excused from pollution taxes and pass the cost onto consumers in terms of higher prices.

The schemes for pumping carbon into holes in the ground and receiving carbon credits for doing so are arrogantly ignorant. Plants are the way to go, not petrochemical plants, trees and other plants. Increase the biological health of the environment and sequester carbon at the same time.

Corporate entities are repeat offenders. They own the governments. They have the governments put laws in place which foster their schemes for increasing their wealth. Carbon capture is one of those schemes.

[Milton]

What went on at Cancun, aside from the lowest temperatures in one hundred years, was trying to agree to schemes which would transfer money from the poor people in rich countries to the rich people in poor countries!

Tim Ball exposes the real meaning of climategate.

[Brent Swain]

An Insurance executive, being interviewed on CBC radio a few days ago, said insurance claims due to weather have climbed from 20% a decade ago, to 50% currently.
Sure looks like climate change to me.
Over 95% of the climate scientists around the world, believe climate change is happening due to human acvtivity, the rest are on the payrolls of the corporate world, to sucker the climate change denier gullibles into playing their tune.
Droughts, floods and weather extremes, resulting from climate change, hits the poorest people the hardest. .