[ShepherdsDog]

ridenrain wrote:

kenmore wrote:

I agree the system needs an overhaul.. right now we have a autocrat with a minority holding the country hostage and avoiding the issues. We need a liberal majority, but not a large one. And the NDP in official opposition.

Yet you see no problem with a province that only cares about one province pretending to be a national party. If there's one major problm with Canadian politics it's the presence of the Bloc.

No one can supoort the Bloc and support Canada. Supporting the Bloc is saying 'fuck you Canada'. Anyone who says otherwise is a simpleton and or a liar.

[kenmore]

Get real Shepherdsdog! I am a liberal.. vote liberal and am a Canadian 110%.. The bloc as a party is useless, but I do respect M.Duceppe,who in my opinion is an excellent parliamentarian. He has Quebec's interest at heart in Ottawa. Your opinion shows your lack of intelligence. And you are once again throwing personal attacks by calling me a liar. You don't know shit about me.. I am a card carrying liberal, belong to both provincial and federal parties and work in every election to get the liberal member elected. Have for years..

[EyeBrock]

The problem is ken, that the Bloc, including Duceppe really do have Quebec's interests at heart, to the point where nothing else, no other province or Canadian matters.

It's all about Quebec. The rest of the country tries to accomodate each other and Quebec but you guys are not returning the favour and never have.

Shep is right. A vote for the Bloc really does look to us in the ROC as "Fuck you Canada, but keep on giving us the cash."

[Choban]

EyeBrock wrote:

The problem is ken, that the Bloc, including Duceppe really do have Quebec's interests at heart, to the point where nothing else, no other province or Canadian matters.

It's all about Quebec. The rest of the country tries to accomodate each other and Quebec but you guys are not returning the favour and never have.

Shep is right. A vote for the Bloc really does look to us in the ROC as "Fuck you Canada, but keep on giving us the cash."

I agree Brock and can't understand for the life of me why the Bloc is allowed to run as a Federal party without having candidates in runnings outside of Quebec, but that's apparenty all AOK as far as the polliticians are concearned.

[sandorski]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

I wonder if Iggy could convince Martin to return? With him as PM and Martin in finance there'd be real liberals in the Liberal Party of Canada once again , rather than the bunch of closet socialists that infest the rank and file now.

As for a fiscally liberal and socially conservative party, that's what the original CCF was alll about

I'm still bitter that Martin didn't get a Majority.

[sandorski]

Choban wrote:

EyeBrock wrote:

The problem is ken, that the Bloc, including Duceppe really do have Quebec's interests at heart, to the point where nothing else, no other province or Canadian matters.

It's all about Quebec. The rest of the country tries to accomodate each other and Quebec but you guys are not returning the favour and never have.

Shep is right. A vote for the Bloc really does look to us in the ROC as "Fuck you Canada, but keep on giving us the cash."

I agree Brock and can't understand for the life of me why the Bloc is allowed to run as a Federal party without having candidates in runnings outside of Quebec, but that's apparenty all AOK as far as the polliticians are concearned.

Quebecers Elected them. What's so hard to understand?

[poquas]

EyeBrock wrote:

The problem is ken, that the Bloc, including Duceppe really do have Quebec's interests at heart, to the point where nothing else, no other province or Canadian matters.

It's all about Quebec. The rest of the country tries to accomodate each other and Quebec but you guys are not returning the favour and never have.

Shep is right. A vote for the Bloc really does look to us in the ROC as "Fuck you Canada, but keep on giving us the cash."

That really pretty much covers it. I wish we had nationally thinking Federal politicians with the same convictions that the Bloc has about Quebec, but I also agree the Bloc really shouldn't be allowed to sit as a Federal party. It's an oxymoron that a party that is opposed to Canada is accepted into the house and deciding how Canada is run.

[2Cdo]

kenmore wrote:

Your opinion shows your lack of intelligence.

What's that about personal insults?

Quote:

And you are once again throwing personal attacks by calling me a liar.

Actually he said,

Quote:

No one can supoort the Bloc and support Canada. Supporting the Bloc is saying 'fuck you Canada'. Anyone who says otherwise is a simpleton and or a liar.

which is not a personal attack but more a group attack about the separtist supporters. Personally I thought you weren't a liar but more a simpleton.

[bootlegga]

Proculation wrote:

bootlegga wrote:

Proculation wrote:

It was not a coalition in 1925 but a minority government.
The GG cannot dissolve the parliament by himself since we have responsible government (1840 I think ?). There must be a non-confidence vote.

No but an election wasn't called and another party formed the government. And while it wasn't technically a coalition, it would have needed support from another party (the Progressives) to survive confidence votes.

Yes. That is called a minority government like we have now. The Conservatives need the support of the Liberals to stay in power (since the NDP and the Bloc will always vote against a confidence vote).

My point was that an election WASN'T called after the King's government fell, the GG decided to let another party form another minority government.

[KorbenDeck]

If the Liberals would change their policy of appeasing minorities, I would support them.

Since the Conservatives seem to be the only party that has the "this is Canada, get used to it" mentality they keep getting my vote no matter how much I disagree with their tax cuts.

[Lemmy]

Two questions, Korben: 1. What do you mean by "appeasing"?; 2. Are minorities' rights/interests less important than majorities'? I'm sure you're definining things differently than I, but what you're describing sounds an aweful lot more like the USA than Canada to me.

[vickylee]

I think that it can be good at all times!