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Which party do you currently plan to vote for in the 2015 Federal Election?
Poll ended at Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:54 am
Conservative Party  39%  [ 7 ]
Liberal Party  17%  [ 3 ]
New Democratic Party  33%  [ 6 ]
Green Party  6%  [ 1 ]
Bloc Quebecois  0%  [ 0 ]
Other Party (Fringe)  0%  [ 0 ]
Joke Party  0%  [ 0 ]
Spoiled Ballot  6%  [ 1 ]
Not Voting  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 18

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:54 am
 


CURRENT TOPIC:
"The Little New Democratic Party that Couldn't!"

Hey guys. Decided to help my fellow political junkies overdose. I'm going to 'cover' the election here I suppose, since I've been pointlessly focused on it for awhile and no one can stop me. If you end up not liking the vibe here, maybe make your own election thread with its own flavour, might make things interesting. I'm going to update this specific post over the next few weeks with a countdown and current polls. I'll try to think of an issue to talk about and rename the thread accordingly as events occur. I will attempt to be impartial and relatively unbiased (yeah right).

Also, as you may have noticed before reading this, it'll be a local polling thread as well. You can only choose one, but you can change your vote anytime before the poll closes. Polling is set to stop on October 18th, the day before the election.

Alright, so!
Election Day is on the October 19th!
Today is September 2nd! That means there are 46 days left!
Advance voting will be available on October 9th through 12th.

Polls (CBC aggregated):
29.4% 31.2% 27.4% 4% 6.1% 1.7%
Conservative Minority Government - 124 Seats
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/poll-tracker/2015/
(updated to September 4th 2:16pm PT)

Websites and organizations covering the election:
CBC
CTV
The Globe & Mail
National Post
The Huffington Post
The Rebel
Toronto Star
/r/CanadaPolitics
PopCan
Canada.com
The Beaverton (satire)
(let me know of any others.)

Official Party Websites + Platforms:
Conservative Party - conservative.ca - Platform (no specific page)
Liberal Party - liberal.ca - Platform
New Democratic Party - ndp.ca - Platform
Green Party - greenparty.ca - Platform

Media Endorsements:
(none currently)

Other Interesting Stuff:
CBC's Vote Compass
Political Compass
Factcheck the Politicians
PoliTwitter
Closest Races
Campaign Ad Round-up

Further information:
Make sure you are registered to vote! Deadline is October 13th, 6pm (your time zone)!
Make sure you have the proper government identification to be able to vote!
Polling Station locations (unavailable currently, check back)
Find localized information by looking up your riding

So... what should we talk about?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:23 am
 


Public_Domain wrote:
So... what should we talk about?


Meh.

Well, since you have all sorts of poll results, how a bout a poll on what matters to Canadians, and what the parties are saying about it?

Canadian Voters say Managing Economy in Tough Times (76%), Fixing Healthcare (73%) and Creating Jobs (73%) are Absolutely Crucial Policy Planks for Parties to Address to Win their Vote


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:36 am
 


I'll be voting Conservative again in Ontario. Right nice of them to make it easy for people to vote absentee from the USA! [B-o]


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:01 pm
 


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I'll be voting Conservative again in Ontario. Right nice of them to make it easy for people to vote absentee from the USA! [B-o]


If your experience is typical, then you'll get the absentee ballot the day after the election. Canada Post cuts and all . . . ;)


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DrCaleb wrote:
Public_Domain wrote:
So... what should we talk about?


Meh.

Well, since you have all sorts of poll results, how a bout a poll on what matters to Canadians, and what the parties are saying about it?

Canadian Voters say Managing Economy in Tough Times (76%), Fixing Healthcare (73%) and Creating Jobs (73%) are Absolutely Crucial Policy Planks for Parties to Address to Win their Vote
Healthcare and maybe something in the direction of Dental are pretty high in priorities for me right now. Other then that I'm mainly interested in just watching the ride, it's kind of interesting. I'm not even sure I'm going to vote (would need to get proper ID quickly)

At this point, with the polls so close, I wonder if the Liberal-NDP split will once again work to Harper's advantage.

I'm also sad I won't get to hear Jon Stewart make jokes about Canada in a 30-second bit about the People's New Democratic Republic of Canada. Maybe Jon Oliver.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:35 pm
 


Whoever voted 'spoiled ballot' has to abstain from any discussion or complaining until the next federal election :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:51 pm
 


This election bothers me, mostly because the implosion of the Liberals has made a NDP government a distinct possibility. I don't like the Liberals at all but in a worst-case scenario I'd rather have them win than the Dippers. I perfectly understand why Harper is unpopular with most Canadians and why he will be lucky just to retain a minority government. But the NDP under Angry Tom will be an absolute disaster if they win. It might not be so bad if Jack Layton were still around but as far as I can tell that cadre of former Bloc Quebecois that gave Mulcair his big boost four years ago is in total control of the NDP. And they aren't just a bunch of union jerks trying to protect their turf. They're a pack of genuine Quebec Marxist that would close the economic doors on all of Canada for as long as they were in government.

I know I get a little bent out of shape on some issues here, maybe too much. But a national NDP federal election victory? In the early days of recession at that? I can't think of a scenario that deserves to be regarded as a complete nightmare. This election has me rattled pretty badly because of it's potential for something dangerously awful to happen. 8O


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Well it was me who voted Spoiled, so...

That was the compromise option. Always told skipping out on voting completely meant I'm an apathetic lazy traitor of the democratic process my ansestors fought for or whatever. Why should I HAVE to vote for one of the candidates in my riding if I don't believe in them or the political party they are whipped to? Maybe I don't like the idea that we vote for what we don't like, maybe I think if voting is so damn sacred I shouldn't have to endorse those I oppose simply so I can hopefully help prevent the election of someone I oppose even more. So who should I vote for? The NDP? Wolves in sheeps clothing. I'm not interested in wasting my consumer sovereignty and one single moment I can "have my voice heard" in our "democratic" system supporting or obstructing people I do not support who do not represent me. Why should I have to vote for them when I'm a member of the terrible extreme they condemn and distance themselves from?

AND... I'll complain as much as I damn well please...

Convince me to vote for a party and I might. Been ranting politics here for almost 10 years and I haven't been convinced. Spoiling my ballot will at least let me keep my integrity while still "participating".


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I think the NDP would calm the hell down if they got a minority government. I have no faith in them being the Marxists hiding in plain sight they are feared to be. They're liberals. Even if they got a majority, I doubt they'd go full batshit. I think it'd turn out a lot like the Conservatives, somewhat tame and terrified populistic governance dodging their scary stances like for gay marriage and abortion.

I don't expect anything really exciting if they win, other than everyone melting down and watching my Facebook feed get consumed by fear-stricken rants from people I know aren't political, like after Alberta.


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The Alberta NDP has to reign in their impulses because if they go too far with traditional Dipper policy they'll be one-and-done and they know it. Both the SUN and the oil industry are already pre-emptively causing a backlash against them where they've got too many people convinced that Notley is personally responsible for the oil price collapse. She's got a fine, and very centrist, tightrope to walk and even if she does nothing radical the odds aren't good that they'll be re-elected next time around.

By contrast the federal NDP doesn't have these constraints. With the majority of their support in hard-left Quebec, Mulcair will eventually have to cave into the radical wing's wishes on some issues. Odds are also that he supports himself what the troublemakers would want because he wouldn't have been chosen as leader without agreeing to placate them. I don't think that in hindsight any of the previous provincial NDP governments, not even the one in Ontario with Bob Rae, would be as radical as the current federal NDP has the potential to be. It's the Quebec factor here that is the most important thing. It's because the NDP is now hostage to the old Quebec supremacists from the BQ and because Quebec is, and always will be, hard left. The Quebec left is as close as any political sect in North America can get to being like genuine European socialists. The problem comes in that Canada is a diverse country, with internal issues and disputes that will never be healed or unified. Trying to implement something that might work in Scandinavia, for example, in a country as contentious as Canada usually is would be a disaster. And I'm not talking about implementing something as mild as national health care either. It's be pushing genuine social liberalism of a sort that pisses off at least half the country or something as genuinely radical as nationalizing the oil & gas sector just so the NDP hardliners can shut it down altogether in the name of environmentalism. And anyone who thinks that a lot of the Dippers don't want exactly that should go and re-read what that idiot Linda McQuaig said a couple of weeks ago. She only said out loud what most of them also firmly believe.


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Public_Domain wrote:
AND... I'll complain as much as I damn well please...

Convince me to vote for a party and I might. Been ranting politics here for almost 10 years and I haven't been convinced. Spoiling my ballot will at least let me keep my integrity while still "participating".


You don't vote for someone, you don't have a right to complain. Period.

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I think if the NDP even uses the word "socialism" in the next five years they'd be "one and done".

Lots of socialists in the NDP, but they don't control the party. They're mostly ignored entirely. I might be a lottle too left-wing I suppose, because I still see their leadership (including Jack) as mainstream liberals. They'll be forced to be "rational". Just because the Conservatives have their fair share of racists and putrid abortion protestors hailing from Alberta didn't mean their majority government had to bend to those demands...

I'll call it: NDP wins, magically end up being more centre-obsessed than the Liberals.


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AND... I'll complain as much as I damn well please...

Convince me to vote for a party and I might. Been ranting politics here for almost 10 years and I haven't been convinced. Spoiling my ballot will at least let me keep my integrity while still "participating".


You don't vote for someone, you don't have a right to complain. Period.

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Well shit, I missed that part of the Charter, which section is that? Congratulations on the rational and convincing argument. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:58 pm
 


Public_Domain wrote:
I'll call it: NDP wins, magically end up being more centre-obsessed than the Liberals.


That would be the only tolerable outcome from a Dipper win but I remain convinced those Quebec cranks that now dominate the federal NDP won't tolerate a centrist Mulcair government trying to walk a fine line. They're just too radical and committed to vintage left-wing 1960's-era dogma not to force it on the entire country if they're given a chance.


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I think if the NDP win, minority or majority, and do well over the years, it'll destroy the Liberal Party. I think it's in the NDP's and Mulcair's best interest to be very hesitant and calm in order to bring that scenario about. They have Quebec but you know they want Alberta and BC.


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