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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:56 pm
 


Former Liberal MP in court over federal vote trickery in Toronto riding
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In a statement of particulars filed Feb. 17 with the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, Wrzesnewskyj argues that 218 voters were improperly allowed to cast ballots in 10 different polling divisions in his riding.

He alleges a variety of irregularities, including ballots cast by people who did not live in the riding and the possibility that at least some people voted multiple times.

Wrzesnewskyj lost by just 26 votes to Conservative Ted Opitz.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:00 pm
 


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ROTFL

Not exactly a well played out counter-attack. Desperation is a bugger.


Sorry curt, The only desperation here is with the Liberals and NDP, hoping something will stick and they'll get some media attention.

I know you and other lefties would love this to stick, but most people in Canada don't care.

Elections Canada always gets complaints about robo calls as all the parties use them.

When I first moved to my house, I got a call from a Liberal call centre and they even put a sign on my lawn without permission. Perhaps it was the master plan of Stephane Dion to get into office by throwing random signs up and calling non-Liberals with polling information.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:02 pm
 


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Former Liberal MP in court over federal vote trickery in Toronto riding
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In a statement of particulars filed Feb. 17 with the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, Wrzesnewskyj argues that 218 voters were improperly allowed to cast ballots in 10 different polling divisions in his riding.

He alleges a variety of irregularities, including ballots cast by people who did not live in the riding and the possibility that at least some people voted multiple times.

Wrzesnewskyj lost by just 26 votes to Conservative Ted Opitz.


No shit sherlock....anyone can vote twice....all you have to do is lie.

You can go to any polling station, sign a waiver and vote.

We turned away 200+ people who had already voted at the Advance Poll and that's just one campaign of scrutineers in 1 Toronto riding.





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It's already stuck, and people do care.

When these crooks are tossed from office, it will be a great day.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:15 pm
 


http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/02 ... omplaints/

Elections Canada confirms 31,000 complaints as Tory robocalls counterattack backfires

The Tories have been left red-faced after an attempt on Thursday to blame the Liberal party for suspicious robocalls from a U.S. call centre backfired.

The embarrassing blunder comes as Elections Canada confirmed it has received 31,000 complaints from Canadians about robocalls during the election.

“This is an absolutely unprecedented situation. We’re in uncharted waters,” said interim Liberal leader Bob Rae, in reference to the robocalls complaints, on Friday. “We’ve never seen anything like this.”

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and parliamentary secretary Dean Del Mastro launched an attempted counterattack in Question Period on Thursday, claiming it was the Liberals who used an American automated calling firm in North Dakota, and not the Conservatives.

Del Mastro cited evidence that he said showed that former Liberal MP Joe Volpe used the American company in the last campaign.

“We learned that Joe Volpe paid over $25,000 to Prime Contact, a calling company with offices in North Dakota,” he said.


It has been reported that voters in Volpe’s Toronto riding received harassing phone calls during the last election, which appeared to come from North Dakota’s 701 area code.

“These calls were made on behalf of the Liberal party,” Del Mastro said.

“I see that they used this company quite a bit. It seems that they were robodialing quite a number of people on behalf of the Liberal party.”

But the Tory attack failed badly after it was revealed they had actually confused two different call centres — one in Canada and one in the U.S. — with the same name.

“Mr. Speaker, they are going to need to get some better researchers, because there is a firm in North Dakota with the same name but it actually does not work for the Liberal party,” said NDP MP Charlie Angus.

The Liberals used Canadian call centre Prime Contact during the election, but it has no connection to a centre in North Dakota, also named Prime Contact.


Rae said Harper was smearing thousands of Canadians complaining about the calls.

“The prime minister and his colleagues have remarkable ability to turn themselves into victims,” Rae said.

“The prime minister cannot deny the fact that two of the companies that are involved with respect to [campaign] activities are now under serious investigation. Nor can he deny the fact that there is an RCMP investigation ongoing with respect to what happened in Guelph.”

Elections Canada confirmed Friday it had undertaken an investigation into the more than 31,000 communications received from Canadians regarding robocalls placed during the election.

“Elections Canada has received a high volume of complaints in recent days as a result of MPs and political parties calling on the public to send information to the agency,” a statement said.

“More than 31,000 contacts have been initiated with Elections Canada by Canadians. Elections Canada is reviewing these and will take action as appropriate.”

Up until Friday, the federal agency had refused to confirm or deny the initiation of an investigation.

The Commissioner of Canada Elections has the authority to ask for help from law enforcement agencies — like the RCMP — during periods of “high volume,” the statement said.

Elections Canada will release a report to Parliament in “due course.”

“Obviously, we’ll be making submissions to Elections Canada with respect to what we see and what we have found,” Rae said. “But they’ll have to be the ones to ultimately investigate and determine what actually happened.”


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:46 pm
 


Curtman wrote:
It's already stuck, and people do care.

When these crooks are tossed from office, it will be a great day.




Now there's a point of view I agree with wholeheartedly. Regardless of who/which party is proven guilty of fucking with the elections process. And add some serious prison time to that!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:13 pm
 


DrCaleb wrote:
PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:
andyt wrote:
Spoiling your ballot is a form of voting. If you actually vote for a candidate you don't actually support, what's the good of that? I've never spoiled my ballot because there was always some fringe candidate whom I didn't mind giving my vote if I didn't like any of the mainstream ones. Last election I voted strategically against the CPC, hoping to hold them to a minority. So I've voted, but I wasn't in there singing hossanas either.

Same here. Only twice(fed or prov) have a I not voted for an independent or spoiled my ballot, usually by adding Don Cherry's name to it :lol:
I do take municipal elections more seriously though.


That isn't the way to 'spoil' a ballot. That just invalidates it. (Remember, legal 'English' isn't the same as spoken or written 'English' ;) )

To spoil a ballot, you take it unmarked to the Returning Offier and say "I return this in protset". They it gets counted as 'spoiled' not 'invalid'.

Only time I had to do that was when I showed up at the polls to learn we were 'electing' a senator. There was no prior notification of this, so I had no information on any candidates. So, I spoiled my ballot for Senate elections.

I wonder how many actually follow this protocol


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