[MacDonaill]

Fuck all separatists. Canada is one country, whether you agree with its parliamentary democracy or not.

[Pimpbrewski]

Oh goodness, mtbr a separatist


(sarcasm) Every single Albertans is a traitor and the whole province of Alberta should get out of Canada now (sarcasm)!!!

And that from some dude in Quebec.

[mtbr]

Pimpbrewski wrote:

Oh goodness, mtbr a separatist


(sarcasm) Every single Albertans is a traitor and the whole province of Alberta should get out of Canada now (sarcasm)!!!

And that from some dude in Quebec.

[sandorski]

mtbr wrote:

Shablabar wrote:

Western separation? Please. Quebec couldn't even pull it off, and they had

1) way more popular support for it,
2) several quasi valid linguistic/cultural/political arguments for secession, and
3) two referenda.

I've lived out west for ten years now, and the only people I've ever heard speak favourably for western secession are internet loonies.

Saskatoon? a whole 10 years

Saskatchewan has new found wealth just wait a couple more years as the east Libs/ Ontario start picking your bones , views will change.

you also just recently gave the NDP the boot..times are changing in Saskatchewan.

Ontario is the *only* Province to never recieve Equalization Payments. Up until recently, Saskachtewan(sp) has been recieving them for decades. If they turn around and start whining about Paying out, they're a bunch of ingrates.

[Shablabar]

^^^ True enough. Not that Ontario hasn't been whining about equalization for a hundred years. Whining about equalization is a Canadian pastime.

[poquas]

llama66 wrote:

are you serious? what party is your "local representative" (or what the rest of us call a MP)?

My "local representative" is a member of the Conservative Party. He's not an "MP" unless he is elected.

I guess that makes me serious.

[sandorski]

Shablabar wrote:

^^^ True enough. Not that Ontario hasn't been whining about equalization for a hundred years. Whining about equalization is a Canadian pastime.

lol, true.

[poquas]

Shablabar wrote:

I've lived out west for ten years now, and the only people I've ever heard speak favourably for western secession are internet loonies.

I've been on the west coast my whole life (more than 50 years) and I've never known anyone who's spoken of or implied they were in favour of secession. The loonies all appear to be in here.

[Yogi]

[quote="poquas"]You can't vote for a party anymore than you can vote for a Prime Minister. You vote for your local representative and hope it all works out.

Pay attention 'poke-ass'!

I too, just like everyone else, voted for MY MP. He/she is a member of a political party headed up by ONE person. A vote for YOUR MP IS A VOTE FOR THE HEAD OF THE PARTY!

In the last election, the CPC garnered more votes than did any of the other parties. That done, the CPC was DEMOCRATICALLY voted in to lead the country. Whether by majority or minority matters not a whit to this situation. Nowhere on my ballot did I see the option of voting for a Bloc/Lib/NDP coalition. If in fact such an option was available, and if in fact the coalition was voted in DEMOCRATICALLY, then, and only then, would they have the peoples will to lead the country. Like it or not, I could live with such a situation with a minimum of bitching and whining, and look forward to the next election. It appears to me that it is those who are involved in forming and supporting the coalition who are the real sore losers!!!
For the record, though I do think the 'West' could 'go it alone', I do not advocate separation. As a country with ALL provinces and territories united, we are a world force to be reckoned with. As it is RIGHT NOW, we truly are a country in distress. Depending on how things turn out in the course of the next week, I too will be flying the maple leaf upside down until such time as another govt is VOTED IN TO POWER!

[tritium]

poquas wrote:

Western Separation?

What a load of crap!

As a lifelong westerner and predominantly Conservative supporter, I’d move east before voting for separation.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of the Republic of Alberta...

[Shablabar]

tritium wrote:

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of the Republic of Alberta...

[llama66]

poquas wrote:

llama66 wrote:

are you serious? what party is your "local representative" (or what the rest of us call a MP)?

My "local representative" is a member of the Conservative Party. He's not an "MP" unless he is elected.

I guess that makes me serious.

so he wasn't elected in a democratic manner in the Oct 14 General Elections?

[poquas]

Like I said, the loonies are all here.

Yogi wrote:

I too, just like everyone else, voted for MY MP. He/she is a member of a political party headed up by ONE person. A vote for YOUR MP IS A VOTE FOR THE HEAD OF THE PARTY!!

MP is short for Member of Parliament.

Unelected, means no MP.

If you vote for “your representative” as a means to elect the party leader, you’re gambling. As I said, an unelected local rep is a lost vote for your “leader”.

If the leader doesn’t win his or her seat, they can’t sit in the house and therefore can’t be Prime Minister.

Judging from the tone of your response, You'd vote for your "Leader" even if your rep was Hitler.

Yogi wrote:

In the last election, the CPC garnered more votes than did any of the other parties. That done, the CPC was DEMOCRATICALLY voted in to lead the country. Whether by majority or minority matters not a whit to this situation. Nowhere on my ballot did I see the option of voting for a Bloc/Lib/NDP coalition. If in fact such an option was available, and if in fact the coalition was voted in DEMOCRATICALLY, then, and only then, would they have the peoples will to lead the country. Like it or not, I could live with such a situation with a minimum of bitching and whining, and look forward to the next election. It appears to me that it is those who are involved in forming and supporting the coalition who are the real sore losers!!!
For the record, though I do think the 'West' could 'go it alone', I do not advocate separation. As a country with ALL provinces and territories united, we are a world force to be reckoned with. As it is RIGHT NOW, we truly are a country in distress. Depending on how things turn out in the course of the next week, I too will be flying the maple leaf upside down until such time as another govt is VOTED IN TO POWER!

In the last election, the Conservatives FAILED to get ENOUGH seats to have a majority government. Without the support of those horrible left wing pinkos and frog separatists, they can’t continue to govern at all. That’s the basis of the coalition REGARDLESS of who does it.

The coalition, regardless of how distasteful it might be is not only democratic, but has a constitutional precedent to justify it. More to the point, the bozo’s I voted for can’t seem to get it together. Maybe the coalition can. At least they are talking to each other.

The only RIGHT you have is to vote for the person you want to represent your district. Even then things don’t always work out. Remember David Emerson, Belinda or Cadman?

As for flying your flag upside down, the only thing that signifies to me is that you don’t have the wherewithal to put the damn thing on the lanyard properly.

[poquas]

llama66 wrote:

poquas wrote:

llama66 wrote:

are you serious? what party is your "local representative" (or what the rest of us call a MP)?

My "local representative" is a member of the Conservative Party. He's not an "MP" unless he is elected.

I guess that makes me serious.

so he wasn't elected in a democratic manner in the Oct 14 General Elections?

Sure he was, and as a member of the ruling minority government I expected better of him. The proposed coalition is no less democratic.

Are you suggesting that if your choice for MP looses, the person from the "other party" who wins your local riding and goes to Ottawa isn't democratically elected?

[llama66]

while you are right on with the Constitutional precedent and the legalities of a Coalition, I disagree that the Coalition is right for Canada at this junction of time. Rather I think the current governing party should remain at the helm, for stability during this potentially tough time.