[dino_bobba_renno]

sandorski wrote:

Apollo wrote:

But how can you blame westerners for feeling this way? All 3 opposition leaders were born in Quebec.

The west voyed 65% in favour of Harper. That's a MASSIVE majority and now eastern Canada is thumbing their nose at all of those Canadians.

It's this kind of thinking that defines Stupidity. This has nothing to do with "Western Canada", "Quebec", or any other Region. This is about Harper pulling a stupid stunt then having it blow up in his face.

Time for some Responsibility here.

I think you're underestimating the potential for how this move may be played off in the future.

The reasoning for this happening now and what happens over the life of this coalition are two completely different things. Will this entire issue has more to do with a dumb ass move on Harper's part than it does Western alienation give it time.

Like I said, start throwing money at Eastern manufactures and businesses all the while taking that money from Alberta which is in for on hell of a economic whollip and see what happens particularly when you factor in the fact that no one voted for this "Eastern" coalition and they wrestled power from the Western based party who were. It has the potential to become far more than what it is.

[Apollo]

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weak

Yes you are. We have already noticed.

You claim that you have never heard of western seperation yet here I am listening to Lloyd Robertson talking about the seperation movement in the west gaining steam.

I guess you must be insulated from the real world or vastly more informed than Lloyd Robertson and the entire CTV news team.

[ridenrain]

When Reform got going the cry was "the west wants in"
Now it looks like we need to change it to "The west wants out".

This is another big Salmon Arm Salute to the west from the Rule or Die Trying party. We're big and strong enough that we don't need this shit any more. If this coalition goes through, the western provinces should withhold federal tax untill the legitimate government is reinstated.

[Streaker]

Be ready to be partitioned.

[ridenrain]

Don't you mean subdugated?
That's more apporpriate for these new colonys of Quebec.

[sandorski]

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

sandorski wrote:

Apollo wrote:

But how can you blame westerners for feeling this way? All 3 opposition leaders were born in Quebec.

The west voyed 65% in favour of Harper. That's a MASSIVE majority and now eastern Canada is thumbing their nose at all of those Canadians.

It's this kind of thinking that defines Stupidity. This has nothing to do with "Western Canada", "Quebec", or any other Region. This is about Harper pulling a stupid stunt then having it blow up in his face.

Time for some Responsibility here.

I think you're underestimating the potential for how this move may be played off in the future.

The reasoning for this happening now and what happens over the life of this coalition are two completely different things. Will this entire issue has more to do with a dumb ass move on Harper's part than it does Western alienation give it time.

Like I said, start throwing money at Eastern manufactures and businesses all the while taking that money from Alberta which is in for on hell of a economic whollip and see what happens particularly when you factor in the fact that no one voted for this "Eastern" coalition and they wrestled power from the Western based party who were. It has the potential to become far more than what it is.

I'm underestimating nothing.Only the stupid will latch onto "alienation" and I don't think my neighbours are stupid. Perhaps you think yours are, that's your Right as a Canadian.

[Blahgzilla]

Frustrations are rising!

[dino_bobba_renno]

sandorski wrote:

I'm underestimating nothing.Only the stupid will latch onto "alienation" and I don't think my neighbours are stupid. Perhaps you think yours are, that's your Right as a Canadian.

I guess we'll see. Next year Alberta is going to see a down turn the likes of which they haven't seen since the 80's. I don't think it will be a rally call to separate but having a Eastern government in power which is pulling money away from our province and sending it east sure isn't going to buy them many friends.

[sandorski]

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

sandorski wrote:

I'm underestimating nothing.Only the stupid will latch onto "alienation" and I don't think my neighbours are stupid. Perhaps you think yours are, that's your Right as a Canadian.

I guess we'll see. Next year Alberta is going to see a down turn the likes of which they haven't seen since the 80's. I don't think it will be a rally call to separate but having a Eastern government in power which is pulling money away from our province and sending it east sure isn't going to buy them many friends.

When Alberta was struggling, the East sent money. Sorry, it's a two-way street.

[HaRdLy]

sandorski wrote:

When Alberta was struggling, the East sent money. Sorry, it's a two-way street.

Sent it where? To the east coast, and Quebec?

[dino_bobba_renno]

sandorski wrote:

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

sandorski wrote:

I'm underestimating nothing.Only the stupid will latch onto "alienation" and I don't think my neighbours are stupid. Perhaps you think yours are, that's your Right as a Canadian.

I guess we'll see. Next year Alberta is going to see a down turn the likes of which they haven't seen since the 80's. I don't think it will be a rally call to separate but having a Eastern government in power which is pulling money away from our province and sending it east sure isn't going to buy them many friends.

When Alberta was struggling, the East sent money. Sorry, it's a two-way street.

I think most Albertans don't mind helping the East in times of trouble particularly when we're doing well but our time is coming. How long do you think Alberta will remain full out with oil down in the low 50's (or 40's),the new royalty regime kicking in and the fact that the energy sector are the ones taking the biggest hits on the market?

It's one thing to share when times are good quite another to foot the bill for the majority of confederation when times are bad. If the coalition is careful they might be able to mediate this but if they try to pull a stunt like passing a carbon tax to help fill up the federal coffers then it will be a different story.

Really it's up them and how they handle everything but who do you think they will favour considering the Bloq doesn't get votes outside of Quebec and the Libs power base is in Ontario?

Ever heard the expression "it's for the good of the Country!"?

[sandorski]

HaRdLy wrote:

sandorski wrote:

When Alberta was struggling, the East sent money. Sorry, it's a two-way street.

Sent it where? To the east coast, and Quebec?

Alberta recieves $3billion this year alone. During the Hard times Alberta has recieved Equalization Payments. The Federal Government paid a significant portion for the establishment of Syncrude in Ft McMurray.

It should be noted that in the 50 years of Equalization Payments, only 1 Province has never recieved that payment. Ontario. All other Provinces have recieved Equalization Payments at one time or another.

[Alta_redneck]

dino_bobba_renno wrote:

I guess we'll see. Next year Alberta is going to see a down turn the likes of which they haven't seen since the 80's.

Yeah but this time it's going to be more fun to share the experience with all the easterners that moved out here.

I have a house rented to an late middle aged couple from Ontario, when I picked up the rent today she was asking for advice on what could happen here now.

[llama66]

the chances of the West separating from the rest of Canada is nil, its all hot air.

[Apollo]

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the chances of the West separating from the rest of Canada is nil, its all hot air.

Says the guy from the east sucking on the teet of the west.