[GerryHurt]

novachick wrote:

GerryHurt wrote:

RUEZ wrote:

GerryHurt wrote:

How is that a lie? It is a fact...talk to any ER worker.... open your eyes the next time you're in an ER. How many people are there with simple couphs, colds, scrapes, cuts, bumps.


You want to call it a lie, to make yourself feel better about how YOU use the system.... be my guest.

Sorry but you lie. I didn't even say why I was there but you assumed I shouldn't be. Sorry son but lying doesn't make you right it makes you look stupid. Just so you feel even stupider I'll let you know that I've been to emergency twice in my 35 years. TWICE! The other time was a broken foot like I mentioned. Ya I'm a big bad abuser of the system. Get a new line liar.

Do you know what the definition of a lier is? I don't think you do...so look it up moron.



and I don't feel stupid..... just because you "ab-used" the system only once ( from what YOU say) does not make it "OK". You admitted yourself it wasn't an emergency and you were basically too lazy to make it to the walk in clinic because the emerg was easier to get to..... showing no regard for others that might have greater need for the emergency facility.

Ok i'm only saying to say this once more. Simply because I detest medical misinformation. In the event of a suspected fracture, UNLESS you GP or walk in clinic has at their disposal. An ability to take an X-ray and an ability to cast. The proper place to be is in the ER. Yes, if it is suspected to be a simple fracture...you are listed as non-critical. That doesn't mean you are in the wrong place. It just means someone suffering a heart attack comes first.

and you have no reason to bitch about having to wait a few hours in an EMERGENCY ward.

[novachick]

Actually Gerry he is quite right to protest the wait. Sitting in an ER with an unattended fracture is no picnic. We are in a health care crisis in this country, if no one "bitches" nothing gets resolved. Calling people cry babies or whatever. Does nothing constructive to alleviate the problem.

[RUEZ]

novachick wrote:

Actually Gerry he is quite right to protest the wait. Sitting in an ER with an unattended fracture is no picnic. We are in a health care crisis in this country, if no one "bitches" nothing gets resolved. Calling people cry babies or whatever. Does nothing constructive to alleviate the problem.

Actually I didn't say it was a fracture. I've been to the ER for a fracture, but this three hour wait was not for a fracture.

[GerryHurt]

novachick wrote:

Actually Gerry he is quite right to protest the wait. Sitting in an ER with an unattended fracture is no picnic. We are in a health care crisis in this country, if no one "bitches" nothing gets resolved. Calling people cry babies or whatever. Does nothing constructive to alleviate the problem.

well... it appears it wasn't a fracture.............

[novachick]

Fine Gerry point made it wasn't a fracture. The point still stands calling someone a crybaby is not doing anything constructive to alleviate the problem. If you want to take a stance with unneeded ER visits. How about lobbying to have red cross training formally introduced at the high school level. You would be giving a whole generation training to look for the clues to what is an emergency situation.

[Tricks]

I wouldn't say that's what Nova is doing.

[GerryHurt]

novachick wrote:

Fine Gerry point made it wasn't a fracture. The point still stands calling someone a crybaby is not doing anything constructive to alleviate the problem. If you want to take a stance with unneeded ER visits. How about lobbying to have red cross training formally introduced at the high school level. You would be giving a whole generation training to look for the clues to what is an emergency situation.

Red cross training IS available at the high school level. My son just completed a course in grade 11 that gave him his first aid and cpr.


and please point out where I called anybody a "cry baby".

[Tricks]

GerryHurt wrote:

Red cross training IS available at the high school level. My son just completed a course in grade 11 that gave him his first aid and cpr.

That wasn't available at either of my highschools.

[novachick]

GerryHurt wrote:

novachick wrote:

Fine Gerry point made it wasn't a fracture. The point still stands calling someone a crybaby is not doing anything constructive to alleviate the problem. If you want to take a stance with unneeded ER visits. How about lobbying to have red cross training formally introduced at the high school level. You would be giving a whole generation training to look for the clues to what is an emergency situation.

Red cross training IS available at the high school level. My son just completed a course in grade 11 that gave him his first aid and cpr.


and please point out where I called anybody a "cry baby".

It is not available Canada wide, it should be. Gerry please stop i used cry baby in the context you were
making statements of that nature to Ruez because of his ER visit. I am trying to have a constructive debate here. Not one where it is necessary to demean it to the level of idiocy.

[GerryHurt]

Tricks wrote:

GerryHurt wrote:

Red cross training IS available at the high school level. My son just completed a course in grade 11 that gave him his first aid and cpr.

That wasn't available at either of my highschools.

Really....I guess the public school system in t'rona really has gone to the dump.


You do realize we are talking about REAL highschools....... not the ones where you have to take the "short bus" to get there.

[TattoodGirl]

ive had some nasty experiences with hospitals, and no it wasnt for a cough. I had been extracted from my vehicle after a moron hit us head-on. I was broken in a few places, brought into hospital by ambulance, had the paramedics sit with me for 2hours before being looked at, even though i was in shock. The nurses tried to have me sit in a chair, so they could free up a bed for someone with a fever...I had a shattered knee. after the 2 hour mark a doctor saw me, ordered pain meds and xrays....1 hour later i had pain meds...2 hours later x-rays....im at the 4 hour mark....lo-and-behold a shattered arm, collar bone, knee and deep shock...

The comment that basically threw me out of the bed was said by a 'caring' nurse.....'its a lucky thing u can take so much....shock can kill you'

If I wasnt so messed up...she would have needed way more medical attention then me and I would have made her wait....

BTW....this is one of the biggest ER's in the lower Mainland.

[novachick]

GerryHurt wrote:

Tricks wrote:

GerryHurt wrote:

Red cross training IS available at the high school level. My son just completed a course in grade 11 that gave him his first aid and cpr.

That wasn't available at either of my highschools.

Really....I guess the public school system in t'rona really has gone to the dump.


You do realize we are talking about REAL highschools....... not the ones where you have to take the "short bus" to get there.

Ok i'm done.

[Tricks]

GerryHurt wrote:

Tricks wrote:

GerryHurt wrote:

Red cross training IS available at the high school level. My son just completed a course in grade 11 that gave him his first aid and cpr.

That wasn't available at either of my highschools.

Really....I guess the public school system in t'rona really has gone to the dump.


You do realize we are talking about REAL highschools....... not the ones where you have to take the "short bus" to get there.

Yeah a high school that has the Board of Education attached to it isn't a real high school. And I guess a private school isn't either right?

Yeah, the public school system has gone to shit, why do you think I went private?

[sasquatch2]

Funny this started out a debate over whether Moores latest crap was accurate.

Anyone even in lower slobobia knows that on past experience it is fabricated non-sence.

The wwait times in ER's vary from day to day from ER to ER.

Our local one here is notoriously sloppy and slow. After a two hour wait on a genuine emergency-----intence back pain from a pinced sciatic nerve----I succeeded in getting the skinny from a cop that a major car accident was to cause of the backup-------my gang reloaded me and proceeded down the road to the next town, a smaller one, and IV Toradol was administered PDQ.

As far as Moore he is just attacking the USA as usual and from reports of his latest fantasy---praises Cuba's health care even more than ours.

[RUEZ]

sasquatch2 wrote:

Funny this started out a debate over whether Moores latest crap was accurate.

Anyone even in lower slobobia knows that on past experience it is fabricated non-sence.

The wwait times in ER's vary from day to day from ER to ER.

Our local one here is notoriously sloppy and slow. After a two hour wait on a genuine emergency-----intence back pain from a pinced sciatic nerve----I succeeded in getting the skinny from a cop that a major car accident was to cause of the backup-------my gang reloaded me and proceeded down the road to the next town, a smaller one, and IV Toradol was administered PDQ.

As far as Moore he is just attacking the USA as usual and from reports of his latest fantasy---praises Cuba's health care even more than ours.

Whether you are fan of Micheal Moore or not, and I am not always. He does show some appalling conditions and raises some important questions. Why are Americans afraid of universal health care?