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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:37 pm
 


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Yep... Iranians release the prisoners, unharmed.. While the U.S keep on torturing.


Very well said.
The responses after that post are just to be expected from war mongers

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I've made it perfectly clear that I don't believe that Bush and the Republicans are solely to blame for the war. Two parties - two sides - same bloody coin.


Also very well said.

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I know you are one of the stupidest people on this site, but do try to substantiate your usual bullshit with something, even if it is from your favourite CT site.


So pathetic. But very normal for the right wing children on this site.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:12 am
 


This whole story was a bunch of bullshit, these people wern't tortured at all.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:57 pm
 


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This whole story was a bunch of bullshit, these people wern't tortured at all.


Technically I agree with you, but based on an entirely different line of thought (at least as far as I can tell). I don't really consider what these sailors were subjected to to be torture; according to their descriptions I would place it far closer to a harsh interrogation.

The general techniques used by the Iranians are the same used by the U.S. on its detainees and P.O.W.'s, namely non-physical mental pressure. Isolation, a constant reminder or threat of jail time, and a vivid description of what may happen in jail are par for the course for interrogation techniques. I do believe that the constant cocking and loading of weapons outside the door constitutes crossing a line, but even then no international standards were broken. These were uniformed soldiers in foreign captivity, and as long as there was no physical component to the interrogation, then to the best of my knowledge the Geneva Convention and any other international statutes hold up.

What I take to be the major issue here, which I think is being buried under the focus on the treatment of the sailors, is that an independant nation (Iran) went out and captured, at gunpoint, a group of foreign uniformed soldiers in international waters without provocation. This was, by every definition and standard recognized, an act of war.

I do not advocate a war with Iran; to the contrary I see it as an easy stepping-stone to World War Three. However, there has been a clear path over the past few years with Iran pushing at its boundaries time and time again, constantly seeing what they can get away with. Sooner or later there will come a point where they will cross a line that is truly unnacceptable to someone (probably the U.S.), and the best we're going to get out of a sitution like that is a Cuban Missile Crisis type standoff. At the other end of the spectrum...well, I'd rather not think too long about it.


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That's the stuff.
Wish I knew some Swedish.


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That's the stuff.
Wish I knew some Swedish.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:10 pm
 


I'm going to resist the temptation to jump on the let's-bash-the-swedish-moron bandwagon and just say that while this is a good resolution to the situation. I don't know what propaganda they're going to make out of this, but so far the Iranians look like incompetant goons.

I was kind of holding out for them to do a Jimmy Carter on Blair though.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:28 am
 


What is happing is showing the world what Britains military is deloving to, a once proud force full of hope and courage down to a worn down hollow shell with lack of proper facilities, cut back, demilitirization, lack of training, lack of cash, lack of matarials. Our forces under labour depite in two areas of conflict have acourding to blair the same level of funding from 1997. But in 1997 we weren't in two conflict areas the armed services would need more that 1997 level. We also have again depite in being in two conflict cut on troop number. This is labours thinking of less means more. Blair and brown both stink, there behind the sceens fueding has meant our armed services are suffering one has sent us on too many conflict zones and another isn't providing enough funds.


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