[Rhoffman]

To paraphrase John Oliver on The Daily Show, the GOP gets a pass when we get attacked as everyone assumes that Republicans are better at protecting us, and the Dems get a pass on racial issues because everybody assumes that they're better at racial stuff. Hence why a racial slip of a tongue would destroy a Republican and not even get a slap on the wrist for a Democrat, and why a terrorist attack on the United States would actually strengthen a Republican's polling numbers while likely decreasing a Dem's numbers.

.... actually one of the most thought-provoking statements that I've heard in a while....

But in Biden's defense.... at least he's actually competent. Biden's regarded, along with Lugar of Indiana, as one of the preeminent foreign policy experts in Washington. Reid couldn't legislate his way out of a wet paper bag.

[ManifestDestiny]

Joe Biden is a fuc(*&% idiot!

[ManifestDestiny]

Zipperfish wrote:

ManifestDestiny wrote:

So in other words you are saying the light skinned blacks are smart and the dark skinned blacks are stupid!

incredible just amazingly incredible!!!

Well, I wouldn't go so far as stupid, but blacks score signfiicantly lower than whites in the US on IQ tests. About 15 points I think. This is borne out in worldwide studies from those scholars self-destructive enough to study such things.

They've crunched the numbers every which way, and tried to account for all variables--socio-economic, cultural--and blacks still come out lower. Drives liberal academics crazy, and is probaly one of the reasons that no one talks much about IQ tests anymore.

Glad you brought it up. Ive read all of these studies they are the most hidden studies out there.

[xerxes]

N_Fiddledog wrote:

commanderkai wrote:

I don't get it though, if this situation was reversed, and...hmm...let's say John McCain, when first hearing about Obama, said the SAME EXACT thing, absolutely nobody would pounce on him and call him racist?

Actually there was a case of the Republican, Senate majority leader making a perhaps racially insensitive comment.

Remember Trent Lot's comments, at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday celebration?

Though it's worth pointing out that in that case it was republicans who forced Lott out, not Dems.

[Psudo]

xerxes wrote:

N_Fiddledog wrote:

Remember Trent Lot's comments, at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday celebration?

Though it's worth pointing out that in that case it was republicans who forced Lott out, not Dems.

Republicans denounced his comments in response to media criticism. Realistically, it was the media who forced Lott out.

Also, that article has the weirdest headline I've read in a long time.

[CommanderSock]

What Reid said is typical light skinned mentality. Light skinned blacks are slightly better and less threatening than full blooded blacks to a white skinned mainstream. They are slightly more accepted. This goes as far back as the Kingdom Of Abyssinia and its contact with the Arabs.

What people forget today is that most Mulattoes have the same expectations that whites have when young, and when they inevitably experience racism, they become even more racist against the mainstream due to shattered expectations. Since many go on to become professionals and bourgeoisie they rock the boat the hardest.

Historically Mulattoes have tended to rise to power where-ever they go, from the Arab Africa (Anwar Sadat of Egypt), to the Americas with Vicente Guerrero who was a mulatto tired of discrimination from the white Spaniards and led a bloody revolution against Spain which led to the formation of the independent states of Mexico where he served as president briefly and ended slavery. There are countless examples; Obama is just a drop in the ocean.




As for intelligence and IQ of blacks, there probably are differences, but not based on skin colour but ethnicity (which is varies amongst tribes).

Liberal academics can't hide it, but are afraid of a return of the days of "Untermensch" that's all. There are differences but they shouldn't form policies like we've seen in the past. Live and let live. South Africa, Rhodesia, Brazil, all examples of failed social policies due to the implementation of disastrous racial fantasies by opportunist governments.

[Kjorteo]

Rhoffman wrote:

But in Biden's defense.... at least he's actually competent. Biden's regarded, along with Lugar of Indiana, as one of the preeminent foreign policy experts in Washington.

ManifestDestiny wrote:

Joe Biden is a fuc(*&% idiot!

Intelligent debate strikes again.

[CommanderSock]

Biden is a hawk.

[Kjorteo]

Biden is, at the very least, much more learned about foreign policy matters than most of his colleagues. I also believe he's the victim of the biggest mismatch between the caricature of him and what the actual man may or may not have done to actually deserve it since Chevy Chase's impression of Gerald Ford.

Anyway, regarding Reid, I must admit that I view the situation somewhat pragmatically. If Reid is forced out, then they'll need to find a new Senate Majority Leader. According to Electoral Vote, the current possible candidates are Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY), both of which have the combination of being far more liberal and far more scrappy and aggressive and less conciliatory than Reid. Therefore, because it would lead to replacing a somewhat weak Majority Leader with a stronger one, I'm kind of hoping Reid gets forced out.

[CommanderSock]

Over that comment?

That would be ridiculous. Reid is speaking what most liberals think (not that cons are any better). He finds the mulatto face friendlier because it's closer to home than the dark black face.

He has a big mouth and accidentally let it out.

In 2010 when the Republicans gain a few seats it will be a good time to reshuffle.

[N_Fiddledog]

Unless Reid wins the national league batting title, or finds the cure for cancer, or something between now and November, he's gone anyway. Even before this incident his numbers had bottomed out so bad in Nevada he had to look up to see the cellar.

[Kjorteo]

Well, yeah, of course he's not going to get thrown out in the middle of his term over this, but it makes him even harder to reelect than he was before, which is honestly saying something. I was going to go back to clarify but N_Fiddledog seems to have beaten me to it.