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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:56 pm
 


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Title: Decline of the working man (click to view)
Date: February 26, 2011
Attention diverted this week from unrest in the Mideast to unrest in the American Midwest. The great state of Wisconsin has become ground zero in the country's most intense labor battle in decades, as government employees mobilize to defend their rights (and, just as importantly, benefits) from a hostile Republican governor.

As is the case in most states, Wisconsin's government employees — a broad category of workers including teachers, cops, firefighters, civil servants, nurses, and others — are all unionized, and thus negotiate for raises and benefits not as individuals, but rather through their union bosses with high-level representatives of the state government, in a practice known as collective bargaining. Collective bargaining in turn begets collective agreements, enormously detailed, sprawling contracts between union and government that set out, in great minutia, everything from how often workers will be given pay hikes to whose funerals they can attend and still receive full pay. Once established, the terms of these agreements have all the force of law; the government cannot easily pull out or alter the terms of the contract except at pre-approved negotiation time (usually once every four or five years) or else face the legal consequences of breaching a binding contract.

In practice, collective agreements between governments and their employees tend to be extremely generous. Indeed, there's not really much debate about it these days; unless you're a CEO, or some other top-ranking corporate type, if you work in the private sector you will almost certainly take home a smaller paycheque, be protected by a worse health plan, be easier to fire, and work longer hours with fewer holidays, than someone doing roughly similar work for a state or federal employer.

The root causes of this phenomenon are not too obscure. If a private businessman gives his employees too many sick days and devotes too much of his budget to salaries, the efficiency of the business will suffer, and he may find it increasingly impossible to turn a profit. No such concerns in the public sector! Since tax dollars continue to flow in regardless how well or poorly managed government services are, there's no real pressure for the state to provide the best performance for the smallest financial input. At worst, over-paying and over-perking government employees will merely drive the state into bankruptcy, but hey, that's a problem for another day.

Likewise, while private sector strikes are damagingly only to the businesses they target (you, the consumer can always shop at some non-striking supermarket), public sector strikes have the capacity to significantly cripple vital state-provided services to which there is no non-government alternative — things like schools, DMVs, post offices, libraries, and garbage collection — and thus cause significant societal breakdown. From a political perspective, helping instigate strikes also tends to broadcast a strong message of mismanagement and incompetence that most politicos are understandably keen to avoid.

More sinisterly, government employee unions are also notoriously political, and can force dangerously symbiotic partisan alliances to ensure their employment contracts always remain as opulent and benefit-rich as possible. In America, this is very much the nature of the relationship between organized labor and the Democratic Party; the former funds the latter during election time, and in exchange, the Dems act as a vanguard of the status quo when it's time to renegotiate sick days.

Predictably, the most heavily and well-protected union states in America are thus also the bluest. But now Wisconsin, once amongst the bluest of blue, has a Republican governor and Republican-majority legislature, and is moving swiftly to change the rules of the game.

In an effort to reduce the large percentage of his deficit-plagued state's budget currently eaten up by government salaries and benefits, Governor Scott Walker is trying to push through a bill that will a) increase the government's cut of worker salaries to pay for their health and pension pans, and, more controversially, b) limit the jurisdiction of future collective bargaining to wages only, and c) make union dues voluntary.

The Governor's gamble is that once government employees lose their rights to collectively-established benefits, the benefits they negotiate as individuals will inevitably be smaller and more affordable. Likewise, if union dues become voluntary, the presumption is that more Wisconsinites will simply chose to opt-out, and elect to keep more of their salary in their own pocket, even if this means fewer legally uncompromisable benefits (which they may or may not even fully exploit, anyway).

In response to all this, Wisconsin's public sector unions have predictably gone into full attack mode, staging massive protests in the state's capital building in order to stand in solidarity against what they (fairly accurately) describe as heavy-handed union-busting. The Democratic members of the state assembly, in turn, have resorted to weird filibuster tactics to prevent the Governor's bill from passing the legislature, literally fleeing the state in order to prevent parliamentary quorum from being reached.

Does all this drama move you? There was a time, not so very long ago, when the idea of a "union protest" would conjure up images of the soot-streaked working class, desperately pleading with old man Rockefeller for less explosive mine shafts, or some such. Now, however, in this era where the majority of unionized Americans work comfortable, white-collar jobs in taxpayer-funded office buildings, it's becoming increasingly difficult to muster significant sympathy for their plight. Indeed, the Governor has done his best to ensure the union side looks as unsympathetic as possible, specifically excluding the state's police and firefighters from his reforms; two groups who still exude a fairly strong working class sensibility in appearance and culture, if not necessarily in practice.

Rather than some epic episode of class warfare, I believe what's going on in Wisconsin is something more akin to a civil war within the ranks of the educated elite. And the educated elite strikes me as a group of people whom it is not terribly unfair to ask some sacrifices of, in the wake of the country's current economic woes.


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I don't think unions belong in the civil service. There needs to be some fair way of setting their wages other than collective bargaining. It used to be that the contract was that govt workers earn less but have greater job security and benefits. Now they earn more than their private sector contemporaries and have way better benefits. Less job security than they used to tho.

But what's happening here is happening all over the world. The bankers and Wall Street are bailed out, on the backs of working people. Nothing wrong with asking the educated elite (firefighters, police, office clerks are the educated elite?) but first and foremost the financial elite should be taking the biggest hit.


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This is an interesting situation for many reasons. Unions have been seriously waning as a force in the US for decades and the Public has had a very negative view of them. This situation may change that trend. Walker tried to spare the Police/Fire Workers Unions out of this and now they are throwing support behind the Protesters. The Faculty at one Education facility which had resisted Unionization for over a decade just overwhelming endorsed joining the Union.

There was an orchestrated attempt to bring this type of Union busting to many States at once, but other states have pretty much nixed their plans after seeing what's going on in Wisconsin. Both within Wisconsin and outside it, support for the Union exceeds support for Walker's proposal. On top of all this, the RNC has been touting Walker/Wisconsin as a center piece issue.

I think this is the issue that just might guarantee Obama's re-election bid. Might even wipe out Republican gains in 2010. They are clearly showing their ugly side here.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:59 pm
 


I remember I worked at a rental-car franchise in high school. It took me a week to learn their circa-1980s reservation software. Have you ever wondered why the keyboards at rental car desks, airline check-in counters, and other places were so loud? Because only ancient computers still use the company's software.

Any respectable programmer could make a new, much more user friendly system, but the union wouldn't allow it. The ancient software gave the union members job security.


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I remember I worked at a rental-car franchise in high school. It took me a week to learn their circa-1980s reservation software. Have you ever wondered why the keyboards at rental car desks, airline check-in counters, and other places were so loud? Because only ancient computers still use the company's software.

Any respectable programmer could make a new, much more user friendly system, but the union wouldn't allow it. The ancient software gave the union members job security.


I'm calling Shens on this assertion. Not the part about a Programmer making something better, but the part blaming the Union for such ancient systems. Mainly because that is also common in the Private non-Unionized world as well.

New Software/Hardware has a huge Cost with it and part of that Cost is in Training Employees to work with the new system/software. Which is why Governments and Private Companies don't Upgrade/Update constantly, but stick with Hardware/Software long after it has become obsolete. Despite that obsolescence, they continue to function at the tasks they were designed for, making Upgrades/Updates even less necessary/attractive.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:52 pm
 


Everybody likes to bash unions, but they were a huge piece in the rise of the middle class and the labor laws we have now. If you have big business you need unions to deal with them, or workers just get the shaft. Yes the union movement shot itself in the foot by extreme demands, but I hope to see it rise again. We need some sort of bulwark against big business.


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I remember I worked at a rental-car franchise in high school. It took me a week to learn their circa-1980s reservation software. Have you ever wondered why the keyboards at rental car desks, airline check-in counters, and other places were so loud? Because only ancient computers still use the company's software.

Any respectable programmer could make a new, much more user friendly system, but the union wouldn't allow it. The ancient software gave the union members job security.


I'm calling Shens on this assertion. Not the part about a Programmer making something better, but the part blaming the Union for such ancient systems. Mainly because that is also common in the Private non-Unionized world as well.

New Software/Hardware has a huge Cost with it and part of that Cost is in Training Employees to work with the new system/software. Which is why Governments and Private Companies don't Upgrade/Update constantly, but stick with Hardware/Software long after it has become obsolete. Despite that obsolescence, they continue to function at the tasks they were designed for, making Upgrades/Updates even less necessary/attractive.


Hopefully the policy has changed since the years ago when I worked there, but it was at Avis Rent-a-Car. I read the bargaining agreement myself.

For the life of me I'll never understand why we couldn't just use the company website when someone called in to make a reservation, but alas.


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I live in Wisconsin (right near Madison, actually), and this feels more like a politically connected constituency flexing its muscles than anything else. Public-sector unions give vast gobs of loot to politicians, who then increase the number of public-sector workers and give them more pay and bennies - producing a large and growing pool of dedicated supporters.

To protect this constituency, my state Senator left the freaking state and is hiding out in Illinois to keep an unpopular bill from passing. Could I get him to so much as return my phone calls if my job were at risk? Not bloody likely. Increasingly society is breaking up into the politically connected versus the rest of us. AIG had political juice, so Uncle Sam stepped in to bail them out. GM had political juice, so they're kept afloat with my tax dollars. Teachers' unions have political juice, so they get a four-day walkout and state legislators go into hiding to protect them. My role? Pay taxes and keep my mouth shut, it seems.


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SparcVark wrote:
I live in Wisconsin (right near Madison, actually), and this feels more like a politically connected constituency flexing its muscles than anything else. Public-sector unions give vast gobs of loot to politicians, who then increase the number of public-sector workers and give them more pay and bennies - producing a large and growing pool of dedicated supporters.

To protect this constituency, my state Senator left the freaking state and is hiding out in Illinois to keep an unpopular bill from passing. Could I get him to so much as return my phone calls if my job were at risk? Not bloody likely. Increasingly society is breaking up into the politically connected versus the rest of us. AIG had political juice, so Uncle Sam stepped in to bail them out. GM had political juice, so they're kept afloat with my tax dollars. Teachers' unions have political juice, so they get a four-day walkout and state legislators go into hiding to protect them. My role? Pay taxes and keep my mouth shut, it seems.


Corporations give far more $ to Politicians than Unions do. Neither should be allowed to do so, but until you guys can get around to banning such contributions, the average American is far better served with having Union Funds in the system. The Corporations do not consider the plight of the average American in any way, shape, or form.


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Rather than some epic episode of class warfare, I believe what's going on in Wisconsin is something more akin to a civil war within the ranks of the educated elite. And the educated elite strikes me as a group of people whom it is not terribly unfair to ask some sacrifices of, in the wake of the country's current economic woes.

Sure it's unfair to ask these people for sacrifices. Who do you think ate the bulk of the shit during the recent economic woes? Teachers. They're the group that saw their life-savings decimated by the 2008 meltdown. It was their pension funds that were fucked by Wall Street. They've made their share of sacrifices.


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Rather than some epic episode of class warfare, I believe what's going on in Wisconsin is something more akin to a civil war within the ranks of the educated elite. And the educated elite strikes me as a group of people whom it is not terribly unfair to ask some sacrifices of, in the wake of the country's current economic woes.

Sure it's unfair to ask these people for sacrifices. Who do you think ate the bulk of the shit during the recent economic woes? Teachers. They're the group that saw their life-savings decimated by the 2008 meltdown. It was their pension funds that were fucked by Wall Street. They've made their share of sacrifices.


They have also agreed with the Cuts. It's the Union Busting parts of the Bill they are Protesting.


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I'm not saying otherwise, Sandi. But "agreeing" to something in a negotiation is different from "agreeing" with it.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:28 pm
 


Why do we even have situations where there are involuntary union wages? It seems like a horrible situation to me for everyone except the union itself.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:35 pm
 


TeaBircher: Do you know why we're in the financial mess we're in right now?

Sane person: Multi-trillion dollar Wall Street fraud and larceny, unending and completely unjustifiable tax cuts for the already-wealthy, and massive overspending on national defense?

TeaBircher: Nope. Teacher's union.

Sane person: You are fucking insane and retarded.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:40 pm
 


Thanos wrote:
TeaBircher: Do you know why we're in the financial mess we're in right now?

Sane person: Multi-trillion dollar Wall Street fraud and larceny, unending and completely unjustifiable tax cuts for the already-wealthy, and massive overspending on national defense?

TeaBircher: Nope. Teacher's union.

Sane person: You are fucking insane and retarded.
To be fair, I don't think the State of Wisconsin gave a lot of bailout money to Wall Street.


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