[MacDonaill]

Translated Google.ca with your thing. Only one man's opinion, but this orthography looks soulless and ugly. Different strokes for different folks. Good luck.

[Quantum_Wizard]

MacDonaill wrote:

Quantum_Wizard wrote:

Far from it. A phonemic orthography would follow pronunciation, not the other way around. It would be descriptive not prescriptive. And minor deviations can be allowed.

That's what a phonetic orthography aims to do. That does not mean that that's what it does or will end up doing. It is more than plausible to suggest that there would be an effet pervers of the phonetic spelling, over time, becoming the authoritative guide for pronunciation.

I don't think it would. I don't see anything like this happening in Finnish. Take for example the word jogurtti (yogurt), which everybody seems to pronounce as jugurtti. It seems that spelling is unable to force a particular pronunciation.

MacDonaill wrote:

The word 'lieutenant'... would be phonetically spelt leftenant in the Commonwealth and lootenant in the USA... which spelling should prevail in the international 'standard' you propose?

I don't really care which. If I had to choose I would probably give this particular word two different spellings for different dialects. But I don't think it matters which option you take.

[angler57]

PostFactum wrote:

Oh Crap! I haven't sdudied well the old system yet What they are thinking about!!!??

This from an expert on the English language.
Appears to be sound advice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWPgUyK7DY

[PostFactum]

angler57 wrote:

PostFactum wrote:

Oh Crap! I haven't sdudied well the old system yet What they are thinking about!!!??

This from an expert on the English language.
Appears to be sound advice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWPgUyK7DY

Nice, But I'm not from Quebec))) Lol

[Psudo]

angler57 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWPgUyK7DY

"[English is] the language of Shakespeare and Milton and the Bible." The Bible? The Bible came from Hebrew and Greek. It was translated into German before English. I guess he could mean the Tyndale or King James translations, as they're both quite beautiful in a literary sense, but he certainly didn't express that distinction well.

Ironic, since he's mocking her for lacking skill at articulate speech.

All that being said, I like that movie.

"In America, they haven't used it [the English language] in years." haha

[Quantum_Wizard]

angler57 wrote:

This from an expert on the English language.
Appears to be sound advice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWPgUyK7DY

Of course only one accent/dialect is the correct one and others are perversion of a beautiful language.

This is indeed sound advice. As in, advice about sound (of ones speech). It's validity is another matter entirely.

[angler57]

Now this here is a lot like folks talked where I grew up.
We didn't know we were dirt poor.
We didn't know we talked in a way others thought was funny.
My wife still gets onto me when I say Thank Ya'lll as we travel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaJwT40m24U

[MacDonaill]

angler57 wrote:

Now this here is a lot like folks talked where I grew up.
We didn't know we were dirt poor.
We didn't know we talked in a way others thought was funny.
My wife still gets onto me when I say Thank Ya'lll as we travel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaJwT40m24U

To "get onto" someone is an expression I haven't heard or used in a long time, but I used to say it all the time.

East Texan English is actually my maternal dialect, as it was and still is the variety of English spoken to me by my mother and her whole family. When I was very small, I lived in Texas with these relatives before going to live with my (Canadian) father elsewhere and learning how to speak "better".

However, I can easily move in and out of the dialect depending on who's around. When I'm in Texas with my maternal relatives, it's basically what I speak in regular conversation. But only with them and people I feel comfortable with, never with outsiders.

But if anyone were to ever catch me talking to my cousins, they'd hear things like "fixin' to" and "Djy'all done git yall's car fixed?"

[Psudo]

I'm a little more familiar with "fixin' tah" and "djyagit".

[angler57]

Language is truly interesting.
Video here features a fella from Appalachian mountains of eastern Kentucky.
Fact: He really grew up in a log cabin. Dirt poor on a Hard Scrabble hill farm. He left for Eastern Kentucky University with less than $20.00 in his poke.
Achieved his Masters and Phd. and taught at that university.
BUT, he retained that common Kentucky matter of speech and story telling. As Texans and New Yorkers have their own speech.
Kentucky and the south have theirs.
Yet, for some reason northerns consider their way of speaking as less than that of and educated person. To say, NOT to bright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HvodvnLzLs