[DerbyX]

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DerbyX wrote:
Am I like the Libs you yourself have posted about?
Truthfully? Yeah, sometimes you are. Normally is a situation like this.

Then you agree you are just like the cons Iposted about.

BTW, supporting the Libs doesn't make me corrupt because you think they are.

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I've said I don't like it and I don't agree. I can't do much else. I've asked other this question, what do you want me to do?

I don't recall you or anyone else bitching about the obvious and disgusting partisanship of RR, WMG, etc.

They are the people destroying our country.

At most you have seen me defending the Libs but rarely attacking the Cons.

That my M.O.

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By most con supporters? No I'm not. Many liberals on this forum say that Conservative defence is saying Liberals are worse. What's any different about this? Someone makes a sweeping statement, it gets pointed out, and then it turns into my dad can beat up your dad contest. Such a waste of time.

Perhaps but a quick check around the forum shows a massive one-sideness of anti-Liberal attacks by cons. Sure its usually by a group of a few but I've never seen one con attack one of them for their partisanship. Hell most agreed.

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Probably at some point, but I try to take it back once it's pointed out to me. Normally I do it either out of frustration or being rushed.

So do wee but almost all the attacks come from the con side.

Even in a thread about Ontario elections we had a load of anti-liberal non-On people attacking the Libs baseless.

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Every lib? Maybe. But I don't think I have recently. I've tried to learn on this forum, something not very many here can say sadly.

Many people see forums like this as a perfect outlet. Some post in personas very different from them in real life. others, such as us, use this as a reflection of ourselves.

Its not always easy to determine the difference.

[Arctic_Menace]

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Anyone else take that as almost elitist? Well I'm conservative, so I guess I'm close minded and evil. Crap.

I'd say traditional.

[Tricks]

DerbyX wrote:

Then you agree you are just like the cons Iposted about.

How did you get that?

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BTW, supporting the Libs doesn't make me corrupt because you think they are.

I never said you were...

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I don't recall you or anyone else bitching about the obvious and disgusting partisanship of RR, WMG, etc.

I began ignoring WMG a long time ago. And I have pointed it out to RR. On the flip side, I never see it from your side of the spectrum. We are both guilty of it. I'm willing to admit that, are you?

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They are the people destroying our country.

I completely agree. Derby you know you and I could sit down over a pint and discuss shit with no party lines attached.

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At most you have seen me defending the Libs but rarely attacking the Cons.

That my M.O.

Yeah... I can agree with that. The same could be said for me.

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Perhaps but a quick check around the forum shows a massive one-sideness of anti-Liberal attacks by cons.

No doubt. I don't even click on threads like that anymore.

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Sure its usually by a group of a few but I've never seen one con attack one of them for their partisanship. Hell most agreed.

I have. It's ignored. It's against popular opinion from both sides, so no one wants to see it. We only see what we want to see. Many lefties want to see the pack like mentality, and many cons don't want to see cons disagreeing.

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So do wee but almost all the attacks come from the con side.

Purely based on number of posts, yeah. There are probably more posts from conservatives who do that then liberals. On a percentage basis, it would probably be fairly even.

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Even in a thread about Ontario elections we had a load of anti-liberal non-On people attacking the Libs baseless.

When it comes to Ontario liberal elections, it isn't very baseless

All joking aside, when I see the pack starting to light their torches, I just avoid the topic. Nothing I type will be productive.

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Many people see forums like this as a perfect outlet. Some post in personas very different from them in real life. others, such as us, use this as a reflection of ourselves.

Its not always easy to determine the difference.

True it isn't. Though I can truthfully say that I am trying to take lessons away from this forum. For instance, when Jack Layton spoke at my school. I was able to pick out contradictions and various inaccuracies that I could not have done had I not had the exposure to a place like this. It makes me more aware to what I am hearing or reading.

[Tricks]

Arctic_Menace wrote:

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Anyone else take that as almost elitist? Well I'm conservative, so I guess I'm close minded and evil. Crap.

I'd say traditional.

:lol: Well I am a jerk.

[DerbyX]

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CanadianJeff wrote:

RUEZ you just proved his point.

Which point is that? That he lumps all conservatives together?

I do, do I?

Explain how any statement I made does that more then all your con cries about the Libs?

Explain how I used real world forum examples to prove my point and that I was wrong to do so.

Funny how you claim the point "not all cons blame the Libs" yet never once bothered to contradict all the con cries "all Libs are corrupt, etc".


Feel free to answer any of these if you aren't to busy that is.

Nah, your own words speak loud and clear. Keep on truckin.

As do yours. Don't feel bad that you weren't able to debate me on this issue. You'll get better with time. Just keep trying thats all.

Thanks for the encouragement. Some day I hope to be able to shovel it as well as you.

Well you are full of shit so you certainly have the source material at hand.

Thanks for taking the high road Derby.

Call that just desserts for insinuating I was closed-minded (I'm liberal which is by def'n open minded) for telling that newbie the reality of hwanker.

Just remember that I posted very coherent and debatable points and all you responded with were fallacies, one-liners and insults.

Go right back to start.

Rise above what we expect from you. Afterall, you said you wanted a fresh start from whatever it was that got you banned before right?

Sorry dude, I wasn't banned. Nice try though. You are as bad an any of the people you degrade.

You were the one posting as RUEZ2 asking to be let back in.

I even posted saying I was going to call you RUEZ because I had no knowledge about why you weren't posting as RUEZ.

Until Dayseed filled me in on his bitchslap of you that is.

Quite a stellar preformance you turned in it seems.

[RUEZ]

DerbyX wrote:

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CanadianJeff wrote:

RUEZ you just proved his point.

Which point is that? That he lumps all conservatives together?

I do, do I?

Explain how any statement I made does that more then all your con cries about the Libs?

Explain how I used real world forum examples to prove my point and that I was wrong to do so.

Funny how you claim the point "not all cons blame the Libs" yet never once bothered to contradict all the con cries "all Libs are corrupt, etc".


Feel free to answer any of these if you aren't to busy that is.

Nah, your own words speak loud and clear. Keep on truckin.

As do yours. Don't feel bad that you weren't able to debate me on this issue. You'll get better with time. Just keep trying thats all.

Thanks for the encouragement. Some day I hope to be able to shovel it as well as you.

Well you are full of shit so you certainly have the source material at hand.

Thanks for taking the high road Derby.

Call that just desserts for insinuating I was closed-minded (I'm liberal which is by def'n open minded) for telling that newbie the reality of hwanker.

Just remember that I posted very coherent and debatable points and all you responded with were fallacies, one-liners and insults.

Go right back to start.

Rise above what we expect from you. Afterall, you said you wanted a fresh start from whatever it was that got you banned before right?

Sorry dude, I wasn't banned. Nice try though. You are as bad an any of the people you degrade.

You were the one posting as RUEZ2 asking to be let back in.

I even posted saying I was going to call you RUEZ because I had no knowledge about why you weren't posting as RUEZ.

Until Dayseed filled me in on his bitchslap of you that is.

Quite a stellar preformance you turned in it seems.

You might want to figure out what you're talking about before flapping your gums. Bitchslap? RRRRRight.

[PluggyRug]

Tricks wrote:

Arctic_Menace wrote:

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Anyone else take that as almost elitist? Well I'm conservative, so I guess I'm close minded and evil. Crap.

I'd say traditional.

:lol: Well I am a jerk.

Trick's for the sake of the fire gods or sumptin.....

Don't get dragged into the left wing bullshit university offers. I did and now regret it.

Derby's ok when the vodka is scarce. If more Liberals were as commited as Derby and not the usual fence sitting wimps I've come across, the Liberal party would be a force to reckon with.

No offence Derby.

[DerbyX]

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I don't recall you or anyone else bitching about the obvious and disgusting partisanship of RR, WMG, etc.
I began ignoring WMG a long time ago. And I have pointed it out to RR. On the flip side, I never see it from your side of the spectrum. We are both guilty of it. I'm willing to admit that, are you?

Actually us LIbs blasted loads of fly by nighters posting abvious pro-lib/anti-con rhetoric.

Its just that there are so few you just have to blink and you miss them.

On the other hand the cons have many many posters with a permanent presence doing just that.

Re: RR, WMG, GRPB, Ryan69, etc.

I think you can honestly concede I have a point here.

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I completely agree. Derby you know you and I could sit down over a pint and discuss shit with no party lines attached

I thought you didn't drink?

seriously though I tried in vain. Before tou arrived I made every attempt to debate Cons with regard to the issues (this is pre-Harper PM). The result was nothing but insults thrown my way for even saying that the Lbs were anything but corrupt.

Hell I used to post that the best possible gov't was a Lib-CPC coalition and got nothning but grief.

It got old.

Now on this forum we can get very good conversations of opposing views.

Don't take it personally.

barts a good frind and yet I hate whenever he goes off about the "left"or "liberals"etc.

I had this very conversation with him a year ago.

We both agreed that when we make blanket statemnts like "the leftists.....", "cons....." we weren't being personal.

the same offer goes to you. When I make blanket statements like "the cons..." its not personal.

Sound good?

[DerbyX]

RUEZ wrote:

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CanadianJeff wrote:

RUEZ you just proved his point.

Which point is that? That he lumps all conservatives together?

I do, do I?

Explain how any statement I made does that more then all your con cries about the Libs?

Explain how I used real world forum examples to prove my point and that I was wrong to do so.

Funny how you claim the point "not all cons blame the Libs" yet never once bothered to contradict all the con cries "all Libs are corrupt, etc".


Feel free to answer any of these if you aren't to busy that is.

Nah, your own words speak loud and clear. Keep on truckin.

As do yours. Don't feel bad that you weren't able to debate me on this issue. You'll get better with time. Just keep trying thats all.

Thanks for the encouragement. Some day I hope to be able to shovel it as well as you.

Well you are full of shit so you certainly have the source material at hand.

Thanks for taking the high road Derby.

Call that just desserts for insinuating I was closed-minded (I'm liberal which is by def'n open minded) for telling that newbie the reality of hwanker.

Just remember that I posted very coherent and debatable points and all you responded with were fallacies, one-liners and insults.

Go right back to start.

Rise above what we expect from you. Afterall, you said you wanted a fresh start from whatever it was that got you banned before right?

Sorry dude, I wasn't banned. Nice try though. You are as bad an any of the people you degrade.

You were the one posting as RUEZ2 asking to be let back in.

I even posted saying I was going to call you RUEZ because I had no knowledge about why you weren't posting as RUEZ.

Until Dayseed filled me in on his bitchslap of you that is.

Quite a stellar preformance you turned in it seems.

You might want to figure out what you're talking about before flapping your gums. Bitchslap? RRRRRight.

Some of it is even on his blog. I have no reason to doubt what he said.

Get over it.

[RUEZ]

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RUEZ wrote:

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RUEZ wrote:

CanadianJeff wrote:

RUEZ you just proved his point.

Which point is that? That he lumps all conservatives together?

I do, do I?

Explain how any statement I made does that more then all your con cries about the Libs?

Explain how I used real world forum examples to prove my point and that I was wrong to do so.

Funny how you claim the point "not all cons blame the Libs" yet never once bothered to contradict all the con cries "all Libs are corrupt, etc".


Feel free to answer any of these if you aren't to busy that is.

Nah, your own words speak loud and clear. Keep on truckin.

As do yours. Don't feel bad that you weren't able to debate me on this issue. You'll get better with time. Just keep trying thats all.

Thanks for the encouragement. Some day I hope to be able to shovel it as well as you.

Well you are full of shit so you certainly have the source material at hand.

Thanks for taking the high road Derby.

Call that just desserts for insinuating I was closed-minded (I'm liberal which is by def'n open minded) for telling that newbie the reality of hwanker.

Just remember that I posted very coherent and debatable points and all you responded with were fallacies, one-liners and insults.

Go right back to start.

Rise above what we expect from you. Afterall, you said you wanted a fresh start from whatever it was that got you banned before right?

Sorry dude, I wasn't banned. Nice try though. You are as bad an any of the people you degrade.

You were the one posting as RUEZ2 asking to be let back in.

I even posted saying I was going to call you RUEZ because I had no knowledge about why you weren't posting as RUEZ.

Until Dayseed filled me in on his bitchslap of you that is.

Quite a stellar preformance you turned in it seems.

You might want to figure out what you're talking about before flapping your gums. Bitchslap? RRRRRight.

Some of it is even on his blog. I have no reason to doubt what he said.

Get over it.

Get over what? You brought it up. I have a feeling you've been hitting the sauce tonight.

[Tricks]

PluggyRug wrote:

Tricks wrote:

Arctic_Menace wrote:

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Anyone else take that as almost elitist? Well I'm conservative, so I guess I'm close minded and evil. Crap.

I'd say traditional.

:lol: Well I am a jerk.

Trick's for the sake of the fire gods or sumptin.....

Don't get dragged into the left wing bullshit university offers. I did and now regret it.

Derby's ok when the vodka is scarce. If more Liberals were as commited as Derby and not the usual fence sitting wimps I've come across, the Liberal party would be a force to reckon with.

No offence Derby.

I've already pissed off a lot of people at my university for calling out Jack Layton... I'm going to keep my mouth shut for the next little while

[DerbyX]

PluggyRug wrote:

Tricks wrote:

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Anyone else take that as almost elitist? Well I'm conservative, so I guess I'm close minded and evil. Crap.

I'd say traditional.

:lol: Well I am a jerk.

Trick's for the sake of the fire gods or sumptin.....

Don't get dragged into the left wing bullshit university offers. I did and now regret it.

Derby's ok when the vodka is scarce. If more Liberals were as commited as Derby and not the usual fence sitting wimps I've come across, the Liberal party would be a force to reckon with.

No offence Derby.

If you had said JD instead of vodka I wouldn't be offended.

Now I find it often contradictory that many decry the "leftness"of education while the "rightness"of the military goes unchecked.

Given the traditional viewpoints of (classical) left/right ideology it seems very reasonable.

To be honest I can't recall a single prof or Doctor holding far right views and most held left sided views.

Not many incorporated political beliefs in their lectures. In biology you get very little opportunities.

Mitochodrion don't vote.

Now Tricks geting dragged into left wing BS implies that its BS and that RW is any different.

Western has a rep of being a trust fund uni and so has alot of rich people politics which implies RW slant.

Of course he is going to a church college which adds a whole new demension.

All that really matters is that he gets laid at uni.

Ohhh, and gets an education.

[PluggyRug]

DerbyX wrote:

[Some of it is even on his blog. I have no reason to doubt what he said.

Get over it.

His blog is pure bullshit (makes good compost), Ruez drove him to the point of his usual name calling and innuendo.

You should have many reasons to doubt it.

[Tricks]

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Actually us LIbs blasted loads of fly by nighters posting abvious pro-lib/anti-con rhetoric.

I've never seen that. Link it?

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Its just that there are so few you just have to blink and you miss them.

There aren't that few. Rev, Streaker, OPP, Lily. It's easy to name them off.

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I think you can honestly concede I have a point here.

It's the same on both sides. The fact that I can say it and you can't should tell us something perhaps?

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I thought you didn't drink?

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Well I would just let you drink it all

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seriously though I tried in vain. Before tou arrived I made every attempt to debate Cons with regard to the issues (this is pre-Harper PM). The result was nothing but insults thrown my way for even saying that the Lbs were anything but corrupt.

I was here pre-election. I was along with them. I just grew up a little

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the same offer goes to you. When I make blanket statements like "the cons..." its not personal.

Sound good?

Deal. I'll try to step in when Cons do it a little more often as a show of good faith

[Tricks]

DerbyX wrote:

All that really matters is that he gets laid at uni.

Ohhh, and gets an education.

ROTFL

Well the second one is easy, the first one at the rate I'm going is sketchy.