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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:33 pm
 


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Title: Harper's monarchist tail (click to view)
Date: August 18, 2011
As longtime readers of this site know, I'm quite fond of talking about the British monarchy — specifically Canada's absurd constitutional ties to it. Those same readers will also know that this is an issue I often have to fight to get my fellow Canadians much interested in, as the topic of Canada's royal relationship very rarely makes headlines in this country.

For the last couple of days, however, Canada has been discussing little else.

The spark, odd as it was, was an announcement on Monday that the Harper administration plans to rename the three divisons of the Canadian armed forces, the Land Force Command, Maritime Command, and Air Command, into the "Canadian Army," the "Royal Canadian Navy," and the "Royal Canadian Air Force." While the new "Canadian Army" title doesn't seem to have bothered anyone, it's the latter two, with their "royal" cyphers, that have provoked considerable controversy.

Both of the new names are actually not new at all, but rather callbacks to historic divisions of the Canadian armed forces. The original Royal Canadian Navy was founded in 1910, originally to assist in the defence of the British Empire, which was having some fiscal problems at the time and wanted the colonies to chip in a bit more. The Royal Canadian Air Force, in turn, was founded in 1924, again, partly as an effort to bring a degree of more localized control (and funding) to imperial defense. In those days, Canada did not yet have the ability to make foreign policy decisions independently from the United Kingdom. As one PM of the era famously quipped, when Britain decided to go to war, the Canadian answer could only be "ready, aye, ready!"

Canada gained foreign policy independence in 1931 with the passage of the Statute of Westminster, though during World War II a lot of Canadian forces (especially those in the Air Force) still remained quite integrated with the British.

In 1968, under the government of Prime Minister Lester Pearson, the RCAF and RCN were merged out of existence, and combined into the single, unified "Canadian Armed Forces" we have today. The terms "Command" were substituted for army, navy, and air force, in order to reflect that the three divisions now operated under a shared command structure, and no longer operated as sovereign institutions, while the "royals" were ditched to reflect Canada's now considerably robust post-war independence from the Empire.

It was a move typical of the highly bureaucratizing, nationalistic spirit that motivated much of Canada's political activity in the 1950s and 60s, and did not occur to universal applause. But the sore feelings passed, and for the last 43 years this style of military, and the names associated with it, have simply been all Canada has known.

Until now! In restoring the original titles (though not, it should be noted, the sovereign command structures) defence minister Peter Mackay declared that his government was finally righting a "historic wrong." The post-'68 names, he said, had undermined Canada's "history" and displeased a generation of veterans, whom he was now pleased to honour with this important symbolic reversal.

And while it's true some World War II-era veterans' groups had been nostalgically pushing for a restoration of the royal names, an equally loud lobby was Canada's always vocal monarchist community, who make a predictable career out of opposing the removal of words like "royal" from anything, in any context. Since Harper's name change didn't accompany anything else the military wanted (such as increased funding or expanded veterans' benefits), it's been concluded that this is ultimately a gesture more about appeasing the latter community than the former.

The Canadian press has had a lot of fun in recent years attempting to document the strength of monarchist lobbying on the Harper regime, making great fanfare of some of the prime minister's gentle sops to the royalist cause, such as his foreign minister's installation of a giant portrait of Elizabeth II in the lobby of the Foreign Affairs Department,  and a famous "you're-not-our-head-of-state" smackdown of former Governor General Michalle Jean.

Personally, I've long been critical of the Harper-as-ultramonarchist narrative, for reasons I explain in greater depth on an essay I wrote for the Mace on the subject. To briefly summarize, when you examine his record, one doesn't come across much hard evidence that Harper is dramatically that much more of a monarchist than any past prime minister, all of whom have generally been quite pro-Queen to one degree or another. Instead, to my naive eyes at least, Harper's record seemed to be a fairly moderate mix of formal politeness and the occasional moment of snarkniness — a sentiment rather far removed from the gushy, weepy, Anglophila of someone like the very reactionary former Tory PM John Diefenbaker, to whom he is occasionally compared.

This "royal" re-branding thus marks Harper's most provocatively, unambiguously monarchist gesture to date, and has ratcheted up the fear that maybe the Prime Minister is more serious about pushing Canada in a more neo-colonial cultural direction than previously thought. It's certainly given me pause to revisit some of my earlier conclusions.

What's next, the people ask? The restoration of knighthoods? English lords as governor general? Bringing back the Red Ensign? I guess everything's on the table now.

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There was huge media interest in this story and in my capacity as a professional republican I was summoned for a couple of TV and radio interviews in response. Here's two of the best: me on CTV News and me on Sun TV.


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Was a good writeup, especially compared to your television commentary. Despite my disagreeing with your opinion, you offered a balanced approach here, whereas your television interviews seemed incredibly one sided.

My only gripe with this tho was the line, "What's next, the people ask? The restoration of knighthoods? English lords as governor general? Bringing back the Red Ensign? I guess everything's on the table now."

There is a big difference between changing the name of a national institution who's members are reportedly in overwhelming support of, for the sake of tradition. Aren't knighthoods still in place? Based on the Conservatives choice of GG, it's unlikely they favour that we wont be going back to english lords, but instead favour Canadians who are actually qualified for the position. And it is quite another thing to revert back to the colonial flag. I highly doubt very few Canadians left alive today would be in favour of that, if any. Talk about hyperbole.


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Despite my disagreeing with your opinion, you offered a balanced approach here, whereas your television interviews seemed incredibly one sided.

What were you expecting from a spokesman for Citizens for a Canadian Republic? That's like complaining that the NDP is too one-sided on their policy choices.


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DanSC wrote:
Canadian_Mind wrote:
Despite my disagreeing with your opinion, you offered a balanced approach here, whereas your television interviews seemed incredibly one sided.

What were you expecting from a spokesman for Citizens for a Canadian Republic? That's like complaining that the NDP is too one-sided on their policy choices.


J.J. does a remarkable job moderating himself in his cartoons despite his personal opinions, right up there with Psudo, and he has incredible respect from me for that. In this case it was a departure from the norm, and I have to admit I find it rather suspect he would carry himself on here one way, and in the face of public media entirely differently. I don't want to accuse him of being two-faced, but I have to admit I've lost some faith in the solidarity of his character over this. :(


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:33 pm
 


In my TV appearances, I'm speaking in my capacity as a spokesperson for a republican organization, and obviously being called on to offer commentary from one particular perspective. That being said, however, I thought I was still fairly even handed. In both interviews I feel I conceded a few points and didn't come off as particularly shrill.


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You're opinions are you're opinions, like I said, it doesn't matter what your political stripe is as a Canadian, you can be one way or another on this. But you're rational for them is what turned me off. It felt like you were skewing facts to support your opinion rather than basing your opinion off facts. Most everyone does it in some form or another. However, I was surprised to see it coming from you.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:18 pm
 


Dude...you're the first Canadian I've ever heard say 'aboot'. 8O


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Dude...you're the first Canadian I've ever heard say 'aboot'. 8O
What? The woman interviewing him on CTV said it the same way.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:02 pm
 


No, I listened, and she pronounced it ə baʊt. He said aboot(ə buːt) a few times in the Sun interview as well. Not knocking him, it's just that I always thought Americans who claimed Canadians said aboot were full of shit or hearing impaired. Maybe they are right about their dogs leaky bark too. :?


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ShepherdsDog wrote:
Dude...you're the first Canadian I've ever heard say 'aboot'. 8O


:lol:

Indeed.

I pretty much agree with him 100%. As a nation we are clearly evolving past the Monarchy and ties to it. This certainly does absolutely nothing but harm in regards to Quebec/RoC issues and in the RoC there are only pockets of Monarchists anymore.


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she pronounced it ə baʊt. He said aboot(ə bʊt)
Okay, I don't know phonetic spelling. She pronounces it in a way that sounds like an accent to my American ears, at least part of the way away from my pronunciation and JJ's. Are there three distinct pronunciations I should be listening for?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:09 am
 


Enjoyed the comic and the two interviews. Also enjoyed how you didn't let the interviewer interrupt you when you made a point.


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Enjoyed the comic and the two interviews. Also enjoyed how you didn't let the interviewer interrupt you when you made a point.


J.J. knows how to mack a bitch around. :wink:


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she pronounced it ə baʊt. He said aboot(ə bt)
Okay, I don't know phonetic spelling. She pronounces it in a way that sounds like an accent to my American ears, at least part of the way away from my pronunciation and JJ's. Are there three distinct pronunciations I should be listening for?


Sorry...I ws using IPA symbols and I actually used the wrong one, but have since corrected it. I replaced the ʊ, which was incorrect, the with u: which represents the long u sound found in boot, true and shoe and new....and ROOF!!


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Psudo wrote:
Okay, I don't know phonetic spelling. She pronounces it in a way that sounds like an accent to my American ears, at least part of the way away from my pronunciation and JJ's. Are there three distinct pronunciations I should be listening for?
Well, I for one hear a clear difference between her and JJ.

Actually, I hear her saying more like [əbəʊt] rather than [əbɑʊt], (I think [ɑ] rather than [a] is closer to what ShepherdsDog meant), but most likely not [əbuːt]. I think it might be that many Americans pronounce the word [əbɑʊt] and at least some Canadians [əbəʊt] and some (like JJ) [əbuːt], so there might be indeed three distinct pronunciations.

However, I'm not a phonetician, so I could be wrong about all I said.


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