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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:31 pm
 


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Title: Ireland's breakfast of champions (click to view)
Date: November 26, 2010
It was not too long ago that Ireland was being heralded as Europe's great success story; a country that had gone from back-breaking poverty as late as the 1950s, to an unprecedented economic wealth in the mid-90s. So great was their boom, in fact, that by the dawn of the new century, Ireland had managed to secure a per-capita standard of living even higher than that of the United Kingdom — which must have seemed rather poetic.

Today, however, Ireland finds itself suffering under the same sad status as Greece and Iceland;  a country so massively in debt that they must venture cap-in-hand to wealthier EU capitals to bail them out. Ireland's national debt is now one of the most daunting in all of Europe, representing over 100% of the nation's GDP in a country of just four million people. A deal hammered out this week will thus see the European Union and International Monetary Fund agree to loan almost 90 billion Euros in order to prop up the emerald isle's teetering economy, but, as usual, there are many strings attached. The government of Prime Minister Brian Cowen has agreed to institute sharp cuts to the country's minimum wage and public sector salaries in exchange for the bailout cash, and income and property taxes will be hiked. All will be pretty bitter pills to swallow in a country that had gotten quite comfortable with its newfound reputation as the wealthy cause celebre of the industrialized west.

What went wrong? Well, some of Ireland's troubles are rooted in the same sorts of problems that plague much of Europe — and indeed, welfare states everywhere — which is to say, way too much extravagant government spending at a rate completely at odds with the amount of revenue coming in. But a lot of their economic woes also stem from a more particular US-style banking crisis, whereby Irish banks were handing out all sorts outlandish loans they could not afford, creating all sorts of artificial consumer bubbles, particularly in real estate, in the process. Then the bubbles (of course) eventually burst, which in turn necessitated government bailouts for the irresponsible banks, which in turn bankrupted a state that was already spending beyond its means. Paul Krugman wrote a very good piece about it all the other day.

If there's a lesson to be drawn from all of this, other than the obvious policy ones, it may be that economic success is an achievement best viewed with a considerable degree of skepticism. So many around the world were so enamored with the romantic idea of Ireland becoming the wealthiest country in the world that they failed to ask the hard questions about whether the country's apparent achievements were actually based on anything tangible in the long-term. Questions that the Irish themselves, so happy to be basking in their long-overdue moment of global acclaim, didn't seem to be in any particular rush to ask, either.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:45 pm
 


It was all just too good to be true.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:17 am
 


I was under the impression that Krugman supported TARP and other bank bailout programs. I know he supported a bigger stimulus package. The NY Times article seems out of line with my perception of his viewpoint.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:54 am
 


Next is Portugal and Spain! We need the Koreas to go at it to shift our attention!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:37 am
 


Portugal won't be noticed...... Spain will.


Rumors of a pre-emptive deal to try and quash the headlines are in the works.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:09 pm
 


I thought Ireland's breakfast of champions came in single malt form :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:20 pm
 


So much for the Euro. Maggie T was right.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:48 pm
 


The Euro is just a way for vindictive European communist sympathisers to rape nations of their individuality.
I hope this goes some way to it collapsing completely. The fact that proud nations like Ireland would need to hide behind the limp-wristed, leftist dogs in Brussels is a truly sad story.
What does the EU have to offer apart from money? Weak laws that protect criminals and terrorists and traitors. Of all nations, Ireland should realise the danger of getting into bed with weak men who value 'human rights' over national security.

The EU's perfect world involves a sea of faceless republics which are too ashamed to remember their history and too self-loathing to safeguard their future. May Ireland realise their folly and break away from the European pigs who have sought every opportunity to violate every notion of national pride and common sense. They fought for their freedom and then yield it to people who have nothing to offer them but money. Yes, accept their money and sign with your blood. The EU is the Mephistopheles of the world political stage. To Hell with them.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:48 am
 


Wait, is that "unobtainium" at the bottom of the nutrition facts? Crazy!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:10 am
 


The bankers walk away with their billions and minimum wage gets slashed. Always the same story.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:40 am
 


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-2 ... -drop.html

The Irish bailout failed to work. Spanish bonds are going down as I post this and the Euro is dropping against the dollar.

The UK with their stubborn reliance on the Pound (despite George Soros' machinations) have proven to be the wise ones in all of this.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:42 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-29/ireland-s-eu-financial-rescue-fails-to-stem-contagion-as-spain-bonds-drop.html

The Irish bailout failed to work. Spanish bonds are going down as I post this and the Euro is dropping against the dollar.

The UK with their stubborn reliance on the Pound (despite George Soros' machinations) have proven to be the wise ones in all of this.


Maggie! Maggie! Maggie!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:09 pm
 


Gunnair wrote:
Next is Portugal and Spain! We need the Koreas to go at it to shift our attention!


Yeah, wars are always good for the country - buying lots of expensive weapons and throwing them away sure kick starts the economy! :lol:


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