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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:42 pm
 


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Title: Justin's least favourite PM (click to view)
Date: February 21, 2012
One of the most attractive features of American politics is all the storytelling. Since the US is a such a geographically enormous country lacking a common race or religion and with a muddled history that only dates back little over two centuries, stories of shared values and experiences are basically the only thing Americans have to unite themselves with a sense of commonality.

You see this constantly in the current GOP primary: Santorum tells stories about his working-class immigrant father, Romney tells stories about entrepreneurship at Bain Capital, Gingrich tells stories about ambition and aspiration, and Ron Paul tells stories about freedom and individuality. In their own way, each candidate tries to spin some element of the fundamental "American experience" into a set of partisan talking-points that justify his particular brand of conservative ideology.

One of the worst aspects of Canadian politics is that we don't do any of this. Even though Canada is a country very much like America, a geographically enormous place without a common race or religion and only a few centuries worth of history, and even though Canadians are largely unified through shared experiences like immigration, entrepreneurship, ambition, and individuality, it's rare that our politicians try to weave these realities into larger stories of the "Canadian experience."

The reason, of course, is because that would be considered too "American."

To the extent we're allowed to talk about a "Canadian experience" in this country, it must always contrast with the sound and tone of the stories being told down south. Since the 1970s, this has mostly manifested in an obsessive desire to frame Canada as the country that is always entertaining left-wing alternatives to current American policy, from opposing the Vietnam War when America was in favor of it, to promoting public health care when America had only private, to championing same-sex marriage when Americans were voting to ban it. While the US might be held together by broad values like "freedom" and "hard work" that can be easily spun in either ideological direction, in Canada, our anti-American contrarianism has forced us to define patriotism far more narrowly: we're a progressive country.

The myth of progressive Canada (and conservative America, for that matter) keeps a lot of left-wing Canadians very smug and happy, but it's an inherently divisive and limiting way to define nationalism in a democratic country. Since progressive political initiatives will almost always divide public opinion in a very ugly and inelegant way, one is constantly forced to see day-to-day left/right debates not in terms of two different ways to achieve a common, shared value (like "freedom"), but rather a mean-spirited clash between the patriotic and treasonous. If you say "it is a fundamental Canadian value to favor socialized medicine," for instance, what is the correct response when someone replies "but I'm Canadian and I hate it"?

Justin Trudeau, the Liberal Member of Parliament and debonair son of former prime minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau (1919-2000), recently highlighted the weird places this sort of logic can take you when he mused last week about how Stephen Harper's right-wing government could rationally justify Quebec separatism.

"I always say," he said on a radio chat-show, "if at a certain point, I believe that Canada was really the Canada of Stephen Harper — that we were going against abortion, and we were going against gay marriage, and we were going backwards in 10,000 different ways — maybe I would think about making Quebec a country."

His argument posits that it is little more than a certain collection of progressive political policies that keep Canada Canada, meaning that the second those policies change — if, say, abortions suddenly became harder to get, or all the country's gay marriages were somehow annulled — Canada would basically have failed. Time to start over with a new country!

It's a very myopic sort of patriotism in part because it makes it almost impossible to relate to the nation's history in any affectionate way. After all, 93% of Canada's 145 years occurred in an era where same-sex marriage was not permitted, and as the toon above hopefully shows, even Trudeau Sr., who was considered quite the left-wing nationalist in his own time, could easily be seen as more conservative than Stephen Harper based on the standards of the present. Under the progressive patriotic story, Canada is only a country worth loving right now, or at best since the 1970s, since only then is the nation ideologically different enough from the US in a left-wing way we're currently capable of appreciating.

You do see some of this silliness from time to time in the States, admittedly; we all remember the liberal celebrities who made empty threats to leave America if George W. Bush was reelected, and certainly President Obama has had his patriotism questioned by right-wingers on a number of occasions. But Bush still had his stories to tell about America's benevolent duty to the world, and Obama had his about his about race and inheritance. There was always a unifying fallback narrative that was greater than the small partisan debates of the moment.

Though I still think he's better than the alternative, in some ways Stephen Harper has been a very bad prime minister for Canada simply on the basis that he presents such a depressing existential challenge to the whole idea of "what it means to be Canadian." In the years surrounding his ascent to power, after all, Canada was in the throes of one of its most aggressively anti-American epochs, in which the simplistic narrative of left-wing = patriotic and good, while right-wing = American and bad, was omnipresent in the country's press, politics, education system, and popular culture. Since Harper has failed to cobble together some competing patriotic narrative of his own (a nigh impossible task), the man seems doomed to forever remain unloved and unlovable, and will probably never be able to truly connect with anyone outside his narrow party base.

Harper inherited a country that has allowed its sense of purpose and nationalism to be defined in such a petty, small-minded way that there are no longer any good stories to tell about it.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:28 am
 


For all the comics you do on the subject JJ I have yet to see a single newspaper or liberal MP push Justin forward as "the one".

Can we stop now?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:08 pm
 


I believe this is only the second comic featuring Justin Trudeau JJ has made.

On the topic however, it would be rather American-style if Justin, the son of a PM, became PM. Parallels to Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. and whatnot.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:59 pm
 


I guess in a way, though I feel like almost every country has had a father-son team at some point or another.


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DanSC: Why Bush and not Adams?


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DanSC: Why Bush and not Adams?

I would guess because Bush is more recent?

As for the rest of the essay... I tend to agree.

American mythmaking and story-telling is one of the great things about them. It's a shared history, even if it's not always accurate history, strictly speaking. And it's something Canada could do with more of. That's why things like remembrance day poppies can generate such strong feelings among us, as I eplained to DD a long time ago. That's one of the few areas where Canada does have that kind of shared story.

I think the Trudeau thing kind of falls into that same subject. Pierre was one of our most popular, and polarizing, PMs. Even many people who hated him have a little admiration for the sheer balls of the man. He was and is another of the few things that Canadians everywhere feel strongly enough about to consider a part of our shared story. His son and/or the liberal machine is trying to use that to propel themselves, hence the attention he gets. Only time will tell if it's deserved. Based on him saying he's willing to consider seperatism a legitimate solution to political differences. I'd say he'll be a footnote in Cnadian history, mentioned only because of his father.


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Why in hell does anyone give a shit about anything about or from or concerning PET- Lite?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:19 am
 


Psudo wrote:
DanSC: Why Bush and not Adams?

Most recent example. Also, bringing up John Quincy Adams might start yet another War of 1812-gasm.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:25 pm
 


The only reasonable example I can think for a Canadian narrative is hockey. 1972 and the Summit Series particularly, but also 2002 Olympics (loonie at centre ice) and 2010 in Vancouver. The US can't really use sport as a rallying call since so many of their's are national level only (despite the Yankees and Dallas Cowboys being successful, I suspect they are more Americans that love to see them lose instead of win).

Of course 2002 and 2010 have the added advantages of being against those very same Americans, making it doubly part of a Canadian story. We can unify behind a national team in hockey that Americans really can't in any meaningful, or widespread, way. And that's probably what makes it stronger, simply because the US doesn't (or can't).


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:33 pm
 


You make a good point, and I think that's why the Summit Series hasn't aged that well as a Canadian myth. If we had been playing the Americans instead of the Soviets I'm sure it would still be a huge deal today, but as it stands, I think it's a legend that's getting harder and harder to relate to in any sort of modern nationalistic context, especially for anyone born after 1972.

I mean, taking pride in beating Commies? Isn't that kind of.... American?


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CKASlacker wrote:
The US can't really use sport as a rallying call since so many of their's are national level only


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:50 pm
 


And one photoshopped example for good measure.

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DanSC wrote:
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The US can't really use sport as a rallying call since so many of their's are national level only


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You have some nice examples, but sadly (and I say with a great deal of regret because I've played for 20+ years) football (or "soccer") isn't on the radar of many, many Americans. I seriously doubt any significant fraction of the US population knows that the US defeated England in a World Cup match (even a British news service thought it was a typo, and reported it as 1-0 England).

Donovan too -- I wonder how many Americans could actually name 3 players on the 2010 roster? How many would include "David Beckham" simply because he's in the media and plays soccer?

The 1999 Woman's World Cup was a nice moment. I'm sure it's inspired a ton of girls to take up the sport. I wonder if it would be so memorable if Chastain hadn't stripped to her sports bra after the final penalty. I hope so.

1980 Lake Placid. Certainly a rarity for the US to be an underdog! But I'm talking about a widespread story that encompasses a significant portion of national thought (and media). Did the "Miracle on Ice" play as well in Georgia and Iowa as Minnesota and Masschusetts? Because I'm quite sure 2002 (when Lemieux dummied the puck for Iginla's(?) goal) it was awesome in Quebec City, Toronto and Vancouver. It's rare for English and French Canada to agree on anything outside of hockey.

Obviously Jesse Owens is class -- I wonder if many Americans know that he felt that he was actually treated better by Hitler than FDR at the time?


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JJ wrote:
I think it's a legend that's getting harder and harder to relate to in any sort of modern nationalistic context, especially for anyone born after 1972.

I mean, taking pride in beating Commies? Isn't that kind of.... American?

I would agree -- maybe because my father was born in the former Eastern Bloc that I've grown up with an "us vs. them" attitude towards the Soviet Union, despite the fact that the Summit Series was before I was born. I suspect most kids dont "get it", because they can't appreciate the serious Cold War aspect to it all.

The CBC did a mini-series on 1972 a few years ago. In CBC-liberal fashion, they tried to make some of the Russians more likeable (Tretiak to Ken Dryden, sort of a goalie-to-goalie thing), although they defintely showed the hostility to the Russians too. Their take on it was that the Soviet system was corrupt, but the athletes were mostly just guys who played hockey.

Phil Esposito said in an interview recently that although he's ashamed to admit it now, at the time he really wanted to kill the Russians. Maybe 1972 isn't such a good narrative because the reality is that Canada often used thuggish tactics (Bobby Clarke on Kharlamov).


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:34 pm
 


I'm not particularly on the inside of sporting culture, but it seems to me that American patriotism as it pertains to sports tends to express itself through the national exclusivity of our favorite sports. The fact that the NFL and NBA are national affairs makes them more patriotically unifying, and the fact that we can cover both sides of team rivalries unites us in that competitive, combative way we love so much.


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