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Title: Obama wins (click to view)
Date: November 5, 2008
Viewing Obama's victory last night, and all the emotion that followed, filled me with a sort of uncomfortable despair. How wonderful it is to see so many people once again proud of America, their government, and president. And have such optimissim and hope for the future. But none of this can last. Obama is but a politician, and all politicians inevitably disappoint.

A big let-down is on the horizon, and I fear the crisis of morale that will accompany the revelation that President Obama is not the savior many imagine, but rather a flawed, pragmatic elected official with the most difficult job in the world.

[Psudo]

I really like the style of the art there. It reminds me of Soviet propaganda.

[JaketheSnake]

Obama's campaign invoked the style in its own Obama posters.

[Psudo]

So I see.

[Kjorteo]

I see Obama as the left's answer to Ronald Reagan. He is so charismatic that he is genuinely uplifting, fills Americans with optimism, and makes it seem like the American Dream is alive again. Reagan came up with the whole "Morning in America" thing, and I see strong parallels between that and the kind of optimism Obama attracts.

Keep in mind that, as a liberal, I absolutely detest Ronald Reagan and consider him to be one of the poorer Presidents in our nation's history.

Thus, I see this sort of being the equivalent to that. Years from now, Democratic politicians in the primaries will be arguing with each other over who's more Obamaesque (and the debate will be held at Barack Obama University,) and pockets of people on the right will mutter to themselves about how he wasn't that good a President, you know.

To his credit, Obama did mention even in his victory speech that he doesn't expect to be perfect and that he expects "setbacks and false starts" and "many who won't agree with every decision or policy" he makes. I maintain no illusions that he'll be perfect, and in fact, I can think of two major policies he voted for during the campaign as a Senator that I strongly disagree with already. Still, for now, I for one am content to be vaguely optimistic and handle whether I support the rest of the decisions he makes on a case-by-case basis as they come up.

[travior]

I think Reagan was the best President in the modern era. Obama, so far, has been all hype and charisma. We shall see whether he can hold up once he gets in office. I find it amusing that he was still selling the line of being able to change the world swiftly before the polls closed, then after the polls closed he warns that he might not be able to do anything during his first term.

Sounds like he is already trying to start his '12 campaign.

I'm not saying McCain would have been a better President than Obama. I have yet to see anything in Obama's character that says he is the better choice. He wouldn't even disclose his donor list and yet he talks about making government more transparent. One way or the other, we will see his true colours shine through the facade after Jan 20th. I hope I am wrong about the man.

[Firekite]

Dude, Mr. McCullough, I'm digging the new art style (i.e. the rat, not the poster, and yesterday's). Trying to aim for the more traditional political cartoon style?

Kjorteo wrote:

Keep in mind that, as a liberal, I absolutely detest Ronald Reagan and consider him to be one of the poorer Presidents in our nation's history.

Then you've jumped squarely into the basket with those Republicans who absolutely adore Dubya and consider him to be one of the best presidents in our nation's history. Congratulations.

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To his credit, Obama did mention even in his victory speech that he doesn't expect to be perfect and that he expects "setbacks and false starts" and "many who won't agree with every decision or policy" he makes.

How is hedging his bets and trying to lower expectations and give himself an out for failure something that would be "to his credit" in any way? If it were anyone else, you'd be denouncing such tactics.

[Kjorteo]

Firekite wrote:

Kjorteo wrote:

Keep in mind that, as a liberal, I absolutely detest Ronald Reagan and consider him to be one of the poorer Presidents in our nation's history.

Then you've jumped squarely into the basket with those Republicans who absolutely adore Dubya and consider him to be one of the best presidents in our nation's history. Congratulations.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Firekite wrote:

How is hedging his bets and trying to lower expectations and give himself an out for failure something that would be "to his credit" in any way? If it were anyone else, you'd be denouncing such tactics.

If the expectations are that Obama is the second coming of Christ and will always make the 100% right decision that everyone agrees with every time, then I'd much rather he lower them with the reminder that he's actually human than try to pretend he's something that he's not. It's to his credit because I can tell that being promised the moon and the stars is a lie and I can respect someone's honesty when he says that's not going to happen. I'd like to think I'd say the same thing if I were anyone else, or if McCain won and made the same speech, or both.

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What, why stop there.

Obama campain locations in Texas and Chicago also had the flag of Cuba sporting Che Guevara's picture on the flag, a man responsible for the death of 1000's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara

As I said, history was made by the election of Obama as the first black man... but this is also a man who is carismatic, with the ability to sway the people of nations into doing the unthinkable.

Two ex-leaders with the same ability are Hitler and Hugo Chavez.

I mean, when the Irianian President offers his congratulations to Obama, speaks volums...

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/131988/Iran ... s-to-Obama

I guess all these socialist nut jobs can spell each other.

[RoseClown]

I think for the most part people know this, that he is a person and politician. Or at least the Moderates, republicans (the ones that ended up voting for him anyway, the others think worse) and older generations are realistic. This election was amazing in a lot of ways, but ultimately Obama won because he did bring a level of hope. My highest expectations is that he will be another FDR or Theodore Roosevelt, both great reformers who did bring the keyword, 'Change.'

Anyway since I lived in the US I will tell you this much- half my friends and family would have voted for Mccain if it wasn't for Palin. That choice ticked my mom off and she voted Democrat for the first time in 7 elections.

In the end we voted Obama because he seems like a better bet than Mccain in terms of actually bringing any change. Politicians are almost all alike, but sometimes it can be different.

So all you people who think he is the next dictator you seriously don't know a thing about us americans, even if you live here. If He has any signs of that the protests will be so loud you can hear it around the world.

Oh, and puh-lease. Just because some radical leftists put up those signs I don't think Obama, or maybe half the people working in the building, agreed with it. Or for that matter, knew what it was. Because americans can be so smart about world affairs. (And I say this with all the loving kindness as an american who lives in Virginia, the state which turned blue for the first time in 44 years.)

[CommanderSock]

American Tony Blair

[travior]

It will be illegal to protest Obama. You would be prosecuted under "Hate Crime" legislation.

[Kjorteo]

You know who else won an election once?

Hitler.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

[RoseClown]

Riiiight. 9_9 Do you think that would stop most of us? lol. Seriously though, I trust enough in the democracy of the USA to keep even the president in check. We have a lot of checks and balances, so I don't think Obama will get away with everything. I mean, there are always alarmists on either side, and when was the last time one has been right? (in the USA I mean.)

Plus to be quite honest I would rather have Obama rather than even a possibility of Palin. That Prank call incident is an embarrassment to Americans. I mean, how on earth did she even think that guy was really French with his horrible accent that did not even sound remotely authentic? Eek. Anyway, I think everyone needs to give him at least a year before they start the predictions of doom and gloom. Heck, most moderates will tell you he is a risky candidate, but Mccain made so many bad decisions during the campaign he lost any chance of getting the moderate vote...plus it made us really question his judgement. I mean, if you can't handle an election, then how are you going to handle a huge crisis right off the bat?

Also, Hitler kinda did a coup de ta by tricking people into tranfering power to him by scare tactics. With the reporters, and power so dispersed, as well as our democracy being fairly set in place, I don't think it will be a repeat. Oh, and as well as a moderate I am a History major who has just done a study of WWII. FYI. *winks*

[Kjorteo]

Exactly. Really, if the system of checks and balances can handle eight years of George W. Bush, it can handle anything.