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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:24 am
 


<strong>Filibuster Cartoon</strong>
<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="http://www.filibustercartoons.com/archive.php?id=20071122" target="_blank">Taser Maze</a> (click to view)
<strong>Date: </strong> November 22, 2007

Right now, the big story consuming all levels of media in my town is the strange death of Mr. Robert Dziekanski. <br> <br>Dziekanski was basically a loser from Poland, who didn\'t have much going for him. So he decided to immigrate to Canada, leaving his country and flying on an airplane for the first time in his life. The flight was terrible, as was his treatment at the Vancouver international airport. He spoke no English and understood nothing that was going on. <br> <br>He eventually snapped, baricading the international gate and throwing a temper tantrum. They called in the Mounties to subdue him, and they gave him the taser, killing him. Someone caught the thing on video. <br> <br>


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I can't believe the field day the papers are having with this. There was litterly a 2 page article in the Globe about how this man was so gentle and non aggressive.

Honestly had this not been caught on Camera I doubt it would have even made the front page.


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CanadianJeff wrote:
I can't believe the field day the papers are having with this. There was litterly a 2 page article in the Globe about how this man was so gentle and non aggressive.

Honestly had this not been caught on Camera I doubt it would have even made the front page.
I can't believe some people are taking this so lightly.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:43 am
 


His own friends said that he was prone to outbursts and he had been in trouble with the law, having been involved in an armed robbery once. Yeah, he was really gentle and non aggressive.


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His own friends said that he was prone to outbursts and he had been in trouble with the law, having been involved in an armed robbery once. Yeah, he was really gentle and non aggressive.
That's really not in question.


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ShepherdsDog wrote:
His own friends said that he was prone to outbursts and he had been in trouble with the law, having been involved in an armed robbery once. Yeah, he was really gentle and non aggressive.


Regardless! At the very least give the man his day in court. We don't need executions on the streets by police and that's what this man got. :roll:


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RUEZ wrote:
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I can't believe the field day the papers are having with this. There was litterly a 2 page article in the Globe about how this man was so gentle and non aggressive.

Honestly had this not been caught on Camera I doubt it would have even made the front page.
I can't believe some people are taking this so lightly.


it's true though...i'll bet this wouldn't have gotte half the hype if it hadn't been caught on camera.

Look at the deaths through out the years because of tasers, did ANY of them get 1/4 of the hype this freggen situation has gotten. I don't want to undermind the tragety of each loss, but who the hell decides which death gets more coverage?

to counter your comment Ruez, i can't believe lemmings are jumping off the deepend over this ONE incident.

why now? why not question this crap so thoroughly when a CANADIAN is zaped to death? why do people only care about the shit they see?


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Wada wrote:
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His own friends said that he was prone to outbursts and he had been in trouble with the law, having been involved in an armed robbery once. Yeah, he was really gentle and non aggressive.


Regardless! At the very least give the man his day in court. We don't need executions on the streets by police and that's what this man got. :roll:


woah woah woah....execution suggests the police MEANT to kill this guy, i will give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you don't think this way........right.... 8O...

sure a day in court, i can dig that, but pleas don't freggen say he was executed in the street, that's a stupid comment to which nothing good will come, and frankly makes you look like a bit of a wackjob.

but again.....the benefit of the doubt dictates you don't think like that.....so we shouldn't have a problem here.... :?


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His own friends said that he was prone to outbursts and he had been in trouble with the law, having been involved in an armed robbery once. Yeah, he was really gentle and non aggressive.


Regardless! At the very least give the man his day in court. We don't need executions on the streets by police and that's what this man got. :roll:


woah woah woah....execution suggests the police MEANT to kill this guy, i will give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you don't think this way........right.... 8O...

sure a day in court, i can dig that, but pleas don't freggen say he was executed in the street, that's a stupid comment to which nothing good will come, and frankly makes you look like a bit of a wackjob.

but again.....the benefit of the doubt dictates you don't think like that.....so we shouldn't have a problem here.... :?


No, I certainly do not think the mounties intended to kill this fellow, but he's dead and he certainly did not do anything to warrant his death. Did he?


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No! It appears to be a death by misadventure,......... an accident.

Besides the aspect of the taser, it has come to our attention that the indiscriminant immigration system set up by the former regime is still rolling on. Was this loser really a desirable immigrant?


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No! It appears to be a death by misadventure,......... an accident.

Besides the aspect of the taser, it has come to our attention that the indiscriminant immigration system set up by the former regime is still rolling on. Was this loser really a desirable immigrant?


Does it really matter if he was. With all the people born here that you think are lesser persons than yourself with the immigrant you have a 50/50 chance that they are worthwhile in your eyes. Good odds, eh! What are you bitching about? :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:53 am
 


I thought this was going to be about the guy that got tazered by the Utah Highway Patrol for refusing to sign a speeding ticket. I guess there are a lot of tazer stories around these days.

Does any open country in the world have a simple immigration system? Other than "No one gets in!", it may not be possible to keep immigration simple. Even if that's true, though, tazering the poor guy to death was unnecessarily brutal.

I recognize the algorithm used to generate that maze. It's sometimes used to teach recursion or the use of stacks in computer programming. Simple, random, connects every point within the maze (at least until you block parts with pictures), and no loop-backs. I could rant about it for paragraphs.


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Besides the aspect of the taser, it has come to our attention that the indiscriminant immigration system set up by the former regime is still rolling on. Was this loser really a desirable immigrant?
Who cares? He was effectively coming to visit his mother, who btw, was rebuffed by airport staff when she was trying to figure out where her son was, even though he had been stuck in Customs for 10 hours.

Heaven forbid we allow people to sponsor their own relatives when it comes to immigration papers.

Back on topic, I've found that all too often it seems the police are using the Taser as an alternative to the nightstick, when really they should be using it as an alternative to the pistol. Too often it's used as a "do what we say" tool instead of a "omg this guy is out of control" takedown.

Yeah he was cranky, and throwing things, but really, stick yourself in his shoes. He's been on a long cramped flight, he's stuck in Customs, and NOBODY can speak his language. He can't leave, he's all alone, and he waits around for 10 HOURS by himself in a strange place. All the while some clearly "police-type" guys (security) are watching him through some panes of glass...

I'd be livid at that point...

And then to top it all off, some new police types show up, mumble stuff at you in gibberish, point at a desk, and then surround you when you do so. I'm not surprised he grabbed the stapler before getting zapped. He probably thought they were going to beat the piss out of him...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:25 am
 


Wada wrote:
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Wada wrote:
ShepherdsDog wrote:
His own friends said that he was prone to outbursts and he had been in trouble with the law, having been involved in an armed robbery once. Yeah, he was really gentle and non aggressive.


Regardless! At the very least give the man his day in court. We don't need executions on the streets by police and that's what this man got. :roll:


woah woah woah....execution suggests the police MEANT to kill this guy, i will give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you don't think this way........right.... 8O...

sure a day in court, i can dig that, but pleas don't freggen say he was executed in the street, that's a stupid comment to which nothing good will come, and frankly makes you look like a bit of a wackjob.

but again.....the benefit of the doubt dictates you don't think like that.....so we shouldn't have a problem here.... :?


No, I certainly do not think the mounties intended to kill this fellow, but he's dead and he certainly did not do anything to warrant his death. Did he?


true he didn't do anything to warrent his DEATH, which is why side arms weren't pulled. The less lethal munition deployed on this guy.

you're still coming off as thinking that the police INTENDED to kill this guy.


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