[Curtman]

jeff744 jeff744:

Curtman Curtman:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

The benchmarks were done by Valve on their own games. The performance boost may not be across all Open GL supporting titles.

Linux isn't ready for prime time, not enough compatible gaming software.

Linux is already prime time..


http://www.zdnet.com/windows-has-fallen ... 000008699/

Computing, not computer. Windows is built of laptop and desktops which are a ~$100 investment and most families just get one or two. Smartphones are free with 3 year contracts and many families have one for both parents and all their kids.

Make whatever excuses you want..

Victory tastes just as sweet.

[Curtman]

desertdude desertdude:

Problem is some people actually use computers for work and not googly games graphics and shit. Corporate world is PC based while the Arside ( movie FX, music production, print based media, etc etc) is Apple based. Don't see anyone them switching over to any of that shit anytime soon.

Are you nuts?



Maya on Linux is unavailable?

$1:

http://www.linuxmovies.org/2013/03/27/dreamworks-animation-the-croods-tops-9100-linux-render-years/

The Linux server farm has more than 25,000 cores. DreamWorks Animation relies on a mix of HP ProLiant G8, G6 and G5 server blades. With its increase in cores and performance, the G8 blades achieve more than 40% higher render throughput compared to the G6 class blades and deliver more than 42% better performance per watt. The performance improvement has enabled the studio to render more efficiently and effectively and at a lower total cost. As a result, the studio increased render capabilities to an average of 500,000 jobs a day.

To bring to life the overprotective dad Grug and the teenage rebel daughter Eep, DreamWorks Animation used Linux servers and HP Enterprise Services in render farms across four geographic locations: Glendale and Redwood City, California, Las Vegas and Bangalore, India. To create the characters and intricate landscapes of The Crood, artists used HP’s most powerful workstations, the HP Z820 and Z800. With dual Intel® Xeon® processors, the HP Z820 workstation is up to 50% faster than previous generation workstations.

HP Remote Graphics Software enabled artists across studios in Glendale, Redwood City and Bangalore to collaborate in real time on a single desktop display.Access to the studio’s applications and assets is via HP 3PAR StoreServ Storage, HP MSA P2000, HP StoreAll Storage and HP StoreOnce Backup. Color consistency across print, display and big screen production of the movie by HP DreamColor displays and printers.

[jeff744]

Curtman Curtman:

Make whatever excuses you want..

Victory tastes just as sweet.

The chart only spikes in 2007 when iPhones started coming out, it's not an excuse, it's a simple fact.

This is the PC market, notice how Win 8 alone makes up about as much as the rest combined:



http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/ ... rket-share


Honestly, you're as bad at accepting facts as Stephen Harper.

[saturn_656]

XP is still at 33%?!?

XP's end of life date is early next year, then no more security updates, no more support of any kind.

2014/2015 could be terrible year(s) for many PC owners (and lazy businesses).

[jeff744]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

XP is still at 33%?!?

XP's end of life date is early next year, then no more security updates, no more support of any kind.

2014/2015 could be terrible year(s) for many PC owners (and lazy businesses).

They'll probably just change over to Win 9.

[saturn_656]

jeff744 jeff744:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

XP is still at 33%?!?

XP's end of life date is early next year, then no more security updates, no more support of any kind.

2014/2015 could be terrible year(s) for many PC owners (and lazy businesses).

They'll probably just change over to Win 9.

Won't be here in time.

[jeff744]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

jeff744 jeff744:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

XP is still at 33%?!?

XP's end of life date is early next year, then no more security updates, no more support of any kind.

2014/2015 could be terrible year(s) for many PC owners (and lazy businesses).

They'll probably just change over to Win 9.

Won't be here in time.

True, but most won't notice it until 2015/6 which is about when win 9 will be out.

[DrCaleb]

desertdude desertdude:

Problem is some people actually use computers for work and not googly games graphics and shit. Corporate world is PC based while the Arside ( movie FX, music production, print based media, etc etc) is Apple based. Don't see anyone them switching over to any of that shit anytime soon.

I know I can run my DAW in Linux, but why the fuck should I go through all that trouble and I don't want risk weeks of work go to hell when I use third party plugin and have it crashed or work like shit because of compatibility issues. If I want more processing power I rather pay for a upgrade than mess around.

I don't think the professional world will go with this in any significant numbers anytime soon.

Hate to tell you man, most of the servers I support at my current job are Red Hat Linux. 190 servers running on 15 hosts(VMWare), more than half Red Hat Enterprise Linux v4, 5 or 6. One, count it, one Windows 2012 server. More than 3 dozen Windows 2003 servers.

And I'm writing this on an XP workstation. Business uses what works, not what is trendy.

And Steam has purposely been moving it's library to Linux because of the crappy performance and support for Windows 8. Where it leads, others will follow.

[saturn_656]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And Steam has purposely been moving it's library to Linux because of the crappy performance and support for Windows 8. Where it leads, others will follow.

I don't know about crappy performance and support, games run just as well on 8 as 7.

It's more what 8 represents. Microsoft's first step towards the "walled garden" that freaks out companies like Valve.

[DrCaleb]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And Steam has purposely been moving it's library to Linux because of the crappy performance and support for Windows 8. Where it leads, others will follow.

I don't know about crappy performance and support, games run just as well on 8 as 7.

It's more what 8 represents. Microsoft's first step towards the "walled garden" that freaks out companies like Valve.

As it should. PCs only took off because IBM published the specifications, and Microsoft published the interrupts that DOS used in the BIOS to perform tasks. That let everone else develop things for the PC platform, and never before was there such a rush of new technology that has completely revolutionized society. Even Apple started out by including the schematics to the Apple I and II with the computers.

When Apple went all proprietary with the iMacs, costs went up and choice went down. With this latest iOS7 release, Apple even cut out a lot of non-Apple approved hardware from working.

Steam sees the same thing happening with Windows 8. Play with Microsoft on their terms, or they'll cut you out of the loop. Most of the games I play run on Linux. I keep a Windows install to play the ones that don't. And most people know that Games fuel the PC market.

[peck420]

I am so eager to get an Xi3 X7A....

[PublicAnimalNo9]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And Steam has purposely been moving it's library to Linux because of the crappy performance and support for Windows 8. Where it leads, others will follow.

I don't know about crappy performance and support, games run just as well on 8 as 7.

What I've been learning through Turbine is many on-line PC gaming companies are getting away from Intel chipsets. The funny thing is, on Turbine, OpenGL is TERRIBLE even when using dedicated graphics cards from NVidia or ATI.
It also didn't matter if you ran Windows 8 or Linux, OpenGL was atrocious, almost as bad as the graphics from the Colecovision. As for speed? Running OpenGL my frame rate dropped to single and very low double digits while trying to play the game.

[PostFactum]

Holy war: Linux vs Windows

[DrCaleb]

PostFactum PostFactum:

Holy war: Linux vs Windows

Linux will win.

http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

$1:

Steam is coming to a new operating system
As we’ve been working on bringing Steam to the living room, we’ve come to the conclusion that the environment best suited to delivering value to customers is an operating system built around Steam itself.
SteamOS combines the rock-solid architecture of Linux with a gaming experience built for the big screen.
It will be available soon as a free stand-alone operating system for living room machines.

[saturn_656]

Depends how many studios and publishers develop Linux versions of their wares.