[ShepherdsDog]

Just wondering if anyone else has switched to this way of eating as well. it's not Atkins, but it is similar. This system includes a lot more vegetables, and fruit, but choose from foods that are at the low end of the glycemic index and eat them in realistic servings. It also emphasizes eating traditional and seasonal foods

I discussed it with an old friend from highschool who does internal medicine in Winnipeg. He agreed with a lot of the info i presented, so we created a plan for me. At the end of the first month I was off of insulin and started to lose weight with just daily activities.

Saw my regular doctor today. My BP was 120/70, pulse 76, my cholesterol has dropped to 165 from 270, triglycerides at 145 from 360 and my Hb was 6.4%, down from 8.8%. On top of that I dropped 9 kg(15 in total since i started) from my last visit....then he complains about the fact that I had two eggs for breakfast. Too much chosterol for a diabetic he says. iasked him if he read the blood report. 'yes, but that is still too much egg according to current research.'

I countered, that according to current thinking diabetics are prescribed a diet high in carbohydrates, mostly from grains..... the very thing that their metabolism can't handle. That's like putting someone lactose intolerant on an all dairy diet.

[martin14]

No, but I probably should.

Care to share the plan ?

[ShepherdsDog]

What do you want to know?

[martin14]

I tried Atkins once, choices are quite restricted, being a normal man and having
no great affinity for vegetables; got bored after 3 weeks.

Hows about a list of foods low on the glycemic index ..

[Tricks]

I did Keto at one point when on a cut, worked pretty well but I got bored pretty quick, but I did keep a severely reduced carb intake.

Also, your doctor is an idiot if he thinks egg cholesterol is bad for you.

Martin:
http://www.the-gi-diet.org/lowgifoods/

Oats are god tier food, eat them if you don't already.

[ShepherdsDog]

Some doctors still haven't gotten the message that whole eggs are not evil, and in fact are an excellent low fat source of protein and that HDL chosterol is heart healthy.....some still think that all fats are bad for you too. As for the oats, we eat Coaches Oats, the steel cut texture and flavour are really nice. Throw on some berries and cream and it's really good.

[Brenda]

Wow, Shep, good for you!!
I am looking for something healthy that will actually gain me weight... If anyone has an idea? No, I don't want the fatty milk, bacon, white bread, whipped cream and all that crap

[ShepherdsDog]

martin14 wrote:

I tried Atkins once, choices are quite restricted, being a normal man and having
no great affinity for vegetables; got bored after 3 weeks.

Hows about a list of foods low on the glycemic index ..

like the Atkins diet, I put my bosy into ketosis. As long as youdon't have really serious kidney disease your body can handle it easily. You force your body to burn off the excess fat, but you add a larger variety of foods to your diet, unlike the Atkins diet. You can have your slice of whole wheat toast with butter or a a non hydrogenated margarine(olive is touted as the best). Download Protein Power(eBook) from PB they give a lot odf good advice as well. For supper I had a chicken leg and thigh, 1/2 c green beens, a 1/2 c. of beets and a cup of cauliflower along with a caesar salad(no croutons). For dessert I had a bowl of sugar free jello and a half cup of whipped cream(non caloric sweetner). Before supper i had a Rum and Coke zero, and with supper I had a glass of dry chardonnay. Tomorow, breakfast will be a protein shake with 1/2 c of strawberries, 3 table spoons of heavy cream a cup of water and 1 c of ice to make it all a shake. My snack will be an ounce of almonds, a piece of cheddar and a handful of olives or a couple of dill pickles. Lunch will be a salad(lettuce, tomato, green peppers, vidalia onion, cucumber, black olives, pepperjack cheese and chicken breast with ranch dressing, or my own honey mustard creation(swedish brown mustard, mayo and some artificial sweetner) which is also a good dip. I'll likely have some almonds for a snack and for supper I'll have a two egg omellette with mushrooms, onions, peppers, celery, spinach, cheese and sausage smothered in about 1/3 c of medium salsa.

[raydan]

Nothing complicated to eating right.

Just have a lot of variety, and I don't mean different fast-food joints. Fruits, veggies, whole grains and meat... all the while laying off as much as you can from the processed stuff and limiting the size of your servings to what you need, not to what you want.

Add enough physical activity to get your metabolism up there and you're set.

I want to live my life pill-free and be able to follow my grand-kids all day without needing a nap. So far, so good.

[Gunnair]

Good for you. I've been plugging away at dropping a few stone myself. I've dropped about 20 lbs so far but that's mostly through exercise. Beeing trying to adjust my diet a bot as well so I might look into this. Thanks

[Regina]

I did the Sears diet for cycling a few years ago and it was amazing. It was also designed for diabetic patients. It's a low fat - low carb way of eating that lets you have anything but in the right proportion. (Fat, protein,carb) The main thing for me was the amount carbs I was eating and although I was actually eating twice what I normally ate in a day, I lost weight and it stays off. I didn't have the big carb crash after supper either............which means I could actually keep my eyes open from 7-7:30pm for a change. Really makes you think about what you're eating and what it actually does in your system. Carbs are the real killer because I love my bread, pasta or rice dishes although you can still eat them in the proper proportion to the "block" which is how they measure the size of a meal. The number of "blocks" you consume a day are based on your BMI and your activity level. At that time I was to eat 17 blocks per day but my wife was only allowed 9 per day. Her lifestyle is a non athletic one, so she was doing it just to eat healthier but still lost weight. They has some great recipes which we still eat from time to time.
A little complicated at first but works great. I think the Atkins diet is similar in many ways, but either way carbs and exercise are important factors.

[DrCaleb]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else has switched to this way of eating as well.

...

I countered, that according to current thinking diabetics are prescribed a diet high in carbohydrates, mostly from grains..... the very thing that their metabolism can't handle. That's like putting someone lactose intolerant on an all dairy diet.

I am diabetic, and no we aren't. For the most part we are encouraged to eat from Canada's food guide. (I just took a refresher course in managing diet last month) Take a plate (not a 'normal' dinner plate who's size seems t increase every year, but a 10" plate), divide in in half. Half is vegetables (about 2 cups), 1/4 is low fat protein and 1/4 are carbs. Preferably slow acting carbs, like whole grains, not fast acting ones like potato. The food guide also has recommended portion sizes and values needed per day for different foods.

Your body needs carbs, and fatty acids for enzymes your body can't produce from protein by itself. A zero carb, zero fat diet is quite harmful. Carbs aren't bad, in moderation.

I've taken to eating a lot from the Dr. Bernstein cookbook. Good food, low carb, low fat. Meant as a lifestyle change, not just a diet.

[Regina]

DrCaleb wrote:

Your body needs carbs, and fatty acids for enzymes your body can't produce from protein by itself. A zero carb, zero fat diet is quite harmful. Carbs aren't bad, in moderation.

Exactly!

[Tricks]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Some doctors still haven't gotten the message that whole eggs are not evil, and in fact are an excellent low fat source of protein and that HDL chosterol is heart healthy.....some still think that all fats are bad for you too. As for the oats, we eat Coaches Oats, the steel cut texture and flavour are really nice. Throw on some berries and cream and it's really good.

Eggs are amazing, I eat 4 every morning. I use quakers quick oats.

[Tricks]

DrCaleb wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else has switched to this way of eating as well.

...

I countered, that according to current thinking diabetics are prescribed a diet high in carbohydrates, mostly from grains..... the very thing that their metabolism can't handle. That's like putting someone lactose intolerant on an all dairy diet.

I am diabetic, and no we aren't. For the most part we are encouraged to eat from Canada's food guide. (I just took a refresher course in managing diet last month) Take a plate (not a 'normal' dinner plate who's size seems t increase every year, but a 10" plate), divide in in half. Half is vegetables (about 2 cups), 1/4 is low fat protein and 1/4 are carbs. Preferably slow acting carbs, like whole grains, not fast acting ones like potato. The food guide also has recommended portion sizes and values needed per day for different foods.

Your body needs carbs, and fatty acids for enzymes your body can't produce from protein by itself. A zero carb, zero fat diet is quite harmful. Carbs aren't bad, in moderation.

I've taken to eating a lot from the Dr. Bernstein cookbook. Good food, low carb, low fat. Meant as a lifestyle change, not just a diet.

No/low carb low fat is extremely harmful, but keto calls for an increase of fat intake, to allow for more ketones.