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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:01 pm
 


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Does he mention the fact that the groups with HCQ and HCQ + AZM also had twice as many people receive corticosteroid treatments as the other groups... Or did he miss that part? The part that the study seems to ignore itself.

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More steroids given in the HCQ group (78.9%) and HCQ+AZM group (74.3%) compared to AZM alone (38.8%) and neither med group (35.7%)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:10 pm
 


Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale

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Sweden’s grim result — more death, and nearly equal economic damage — suggests that the supposed choice between lives and paychecks is a false one: A failure to impose social distancing can cost lives and jobs at the same time


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:15 pm
 


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Does he mention the fact that the groups with HCQ and HCQ + AZM also had twice as many people receive corticosteroid treatments as the other groups... Or did he miss that part? The part that the study seems to ignore itself.

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More steroids given in the HCQ group (78.9%) and HCQ+AZM group (74.3%) compared to AZM alone (38.8%) and neither med group (35.7%)


https://youtu.be/1plkwhi5KUE?t=725


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:17 pm
 


56 Florida hospital ICUs have hit capacity


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:23 pm
 


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Does he mention the fact that the groups with HCQ and HCQ + AZM also had twice as many people receive corticosteroid treatments as the other groups... Or did he miss that part? The part that the study seems to ignore itself.

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More steroids given in the HCQ group (78.9%) and HCQ+AZM group (74.3%) compared to AZM alone (38.8%) and neither med group (35.7%)


https://youtu.be/1plkwhi5KUE?t=725

So no? Cause he doesn't mention it any where.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:31 pm
 


Scape Scape:
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Does he mention the fact that the groups with HCQ and HCQ + AZM also had twice as many people receive corticosteroid treatments as the other groups... Or did he miss that part? The part that the study seems to ignore itself.

$1:
More steroids given in the HCQ group (78.9%) and HCQ+AZM group (74.3%) compared to AZM alone (38.8%) and neither med group (35.7%)


https://youtu.be/1plkwhi5KUE?t=725

There is also a blatant discrepancy in age median.
Neither med - Age Median = 71
HCQ 53
AZM 64
HCQ+AZM 62

These two factors alone make this "study" worthless. Between non equal steroid application and a range of 18 years between two of the groups, the results are literally junk. Age is arguably the best predictor of death for Covid. So it stands to reason that older age median = more death.

Also, the fact that this youtuber takes a shot at the recovery trial, which was properly randomized while this study states:

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2,541 patients... Limitations to our analysis include the retrospective, non-randomized, non-blinded study design.


Sorry. Junk study.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:08 am
 


Well that explains Trump's pandemic response. He's already had it!


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Five million Melbourne residents will be barred from leaving home for six weeks, except for essential reasons.


Coronavirus in Australia: Melbourne begins new shutdown


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:

So that’s how Trump plans to get re-elected. He’s growing the base of Americas brain-damaged, psychotic and delirious demographic. It is already America’s fastest growing demographic and definitely a vote he’s got locked up. Now his shitshow of s pandemic response makes sense.


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Health official: Trump rally ‘likely’ source of virus surge


OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — President Donald Trump’s campaign rally in Tulsa in late June that drew thousands of participants and large protests “likely contributed” to a dramatic surge in new coronavirus cases, Tulsa City-County Health Department Director Dr. Bruce Dart said Wednesday

Tulsa County reported 261 confirmed new cases on Monday, a one-day record high, and another 206 cases on Tuesday. By comparison, during the week before the June 20 Trump rally, there were 76 cases on Monday and 96 on Tuesday. ...
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Don’t say you weren’t warned! Stupid is as stupid does.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:28 pm
 




His point on Japan spot on.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:29 pm
 


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Sorry. Junk study.



Good to know. I would like to see more results on zinc at some point.


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Sorry. Junk study.



Good to know. I would like to see more results on zinc at some point.

I would love to see more results on everything. Even the HCQ ones that are still running. More data is never a bad thing. The issue with the video is clearly the guy wants HCQ to be a treatment, and is willing to ignore aspects of the study that make it a poor study. It calls into question anything he promotes because he clearly has a bias if he's willing to look past major flaws. And he isn't stating that bias from the get go.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:19 pm
 


He has repeatedly over the last 6 months but I guess it doesn't get highlighted enough. Essentially in the early stages as there were no peer review to go by less vetted information had to be cited with the caveat that it would eventually get the reviews required given time.

Your point is still valid but I think he just hasn't made that point pain enough with some sort of disclaimer, much like at the start where he has to restate that he has a PhD in communicable diseases and not some yahoo with a youtube site.


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