[Yogi]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Yogi Yogi:

herbie herbie:

Make sure anyone else in the house helps. Quit for 2 1/2 mos but the old lady didn't. Left ashtrays of half smoked butts around... just too tempting.
Started again last week. Now I have to quit all over again.
This was my fail the last 3 times, people around me smoking.

I'm calling BULLSHIT! The responsibility is totally on the quitter. Quitting smoking is no different than quitting drinking. I did that over 30 years ago because I wanted to! Peeps around me didn't quit. I didn't expect or ask them toquit as well. It has to be a personal CHOICE. Same goes for quitting smoking. You will, and you will be successful if you choose to be!
I have been a daily smoker for almost 50 years. Last week my surgeon told me that I am going to have to give up smoking as it does restrict blood flow & could be the cause of some of the numbness in my lower extremities. I realized that I really can quit if I want to as being in the airport all day I only went out for a smoke 3 times & then went thru security of course then no smoking at all for a couple hrs waiting there, 40 mins waiting on the plane,then of course another hour & 45 till I got out of the airport. 1 smoke & then no smokes for the ride home-another 1 1/2 hr. No gum, no chewing on my lips, Really, just the mindset that "I can't smoke right now". So, I have determined that right now I smoke because I want to & will quit solely for the same reason.

Sorry Yogi but the fact remains that not everyone is as cranky or stubborn as you.

I quit drinking 25 years ago and never craved another drink but quitting smoking was a nightmare. Both the wife and I quit smoking in 1990 for 10 months, were miserable the whole time and consequently went back to smoking. I guess we weren't ready to quit which is the big thing because you won't succeed unless you really want to. It took us decades more but then we both finally quit 4 years ago and haven't looked back. So, in one sense you're right that it is up to the quitter but, a proven fact. Temptations cause lapses and have for every addiction from food to drugs so, if you can avoid them you'll increase your chances exponentially

It would go along way for Herbie's wife to quit with him because to beat any addiction you need support and the the most effective support is usually the handiest one.

So, good luck to both you and Herbie in your quest to quit smoking and if either of you wants to talk about it feel free to PM me I may not be able to help but at least we can vent together.

BTW when I quit I used the patches and stayed on the high dose for a couple of weeks longer than the box said, same with the medium patch and it actually helped because it broke the habit part of the addiction before trying to kick the physical part. I never had to use the low dose patch because one day I was out in the shop and realised that I'd forgot to put a patch on but wasn't craving the nicotine so that was it.

Cheers good luck and have a Merry Christmas.

Right back at you & the Missus Foggy. My 'worker' is excellent. When I called to discuss the latest turn of events, she already had a copy of my Drs. report from last week. In it he rcommende tha I quit smoking. To that end, I was informed that I am covered 'for any method requred' to aid me in quitting. I have an apt with my family Doc on the 30th so I dunno, maybe I should try something along the lines pf patch or gum. etc.

[stratos]

$1:

I was informed that I am covered 'for any method requred' to aid me in quitting.

See if you can get a prescription for prostitute therapy in regards to your quitting smoking.

[Yogi]

stratos stratos:

$1:

I was informed that I am covered 'for any method requred' to aid me in quitting.

See if you can get a prescription for prostitute therapy in regards to your quitting smoking.

[wildrosegirl]

Yogi Yogi:

herbie herbie:

Make sure anyone else in the house helps. Quit for 2 1/2 mos but the old lady didn't. Left ashtrays of half smoked butts around... just too tempting.
Started again last week. Now I have to quit all over again.
This was my fail the last 3 times, people around me smoking.

I'm calling BULLSHIT! The responsibility is totally on the quitter. Quitting smoking is no different than quitting drinking. I did that over 30 years ago because I wanted to! Peeps around me didn't quit. I didn't expect or ask them toquit as well. It has to be a personal CHOICE. Same goes for quitting smoking. You will, and you will be successful if you choose to be!
I have been a daily smoker for almost 50 years. Last week my surgeon told me that I am going to have to give up smoking as it does restrict blood flow & could be the cause of some of the numbness in my lower extremities. I realized that I really can quit if I want to as being in the airport all day I only went out for a smoke 3 times & then went thru security of course then no smoking at all for a couple hrs waiting there, 40 mins waiting on the plane,then of course another hour & 45 till I got out of the airport. 1 smoke & then no smokes for the ride home-another 1 1/2 hr. No gum, no chewing on my lips, Really, just the mindset that "I can't smoke right now". So, I have determined that right now I smoke because I want to & will quit solely for the same reason.

I have to agree. My ex used to use my smoking as his excuse to fail quitting too. "If you'd quit I could do it. I can't quit smoking if you're still doing it". Horseshit. Tons of people around smoked. My quitting was not going to make a difference. You either do it or you don't.
Just to prove the theory, after about 6 of his failed attempts (all my fault), I did quit. Done. Never went back. Two weeks later he was out in the shed hiding his smoking. Fucking loser.
I simply said, "So now who's fault is it? Ain't mine this time."

You either want to or you don't. If you don't, that's fine. If you don't have the will power, just say so. No shame in that. Don't blame other people for what you can't do. That is NOT cool at all. That's just low.

[Freakinoldguy]

Yogi Yogi:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Yogi Yogi:

I'm calling BULLSHIT! The responsibility is totally on the quitter. Quitting smoking is no different than quitting drinking. I did that over 30 years ago because I wanted to! Peeps around me didn't quit. I didn't expect or ask them toquit as well. It has to be a personal CHOICE. Same goes for quitting smoking. You will, and you will be successful if you choose to be!
I have been a daily smoker for almost 50 years. Last week my surgeon told me that I am going to have to give up smoking as it does restrict blood flow & could be the cause of some of the numbness in my lower extremities. I realized that I really can quit if I want to as being in the airport all day I only went out for a smoke 3 times & then went thru security of course then no smoking at all for a couple hrs waiting there, 40 mins waiting on the plane,then of course another hour & 45 till I got out of the airport. 1 smoke & then no smokes for the ride home-another 1 1/2 hr. No gum, no chewing on my lips, Really, just the mindset that "I can't smoke right now". So, I have determined that right now I smoke because I want to & will quit solely for the same reason.

Sorry Yogi but the fact remains that not everyone is as cranky or stubborn as you.

I quit drinking 25 years ago and never craved another drink but quitting smoking was a nightmare. Both the wife and I quit smoking in 1990 for 10 months, were miserable the whole time and consequently went back to smoking. I guess we weren't ready to quit which is the big thing because you won't succeed unless you really want to. It took us decades more but then we both finally quit 4 years ago and haven't looked back. So, in one sense you're right that it is up to the quitter but, a proven fact. Temptations cause lapses and have for every addiction from food to drugs so, if you can avoid them you'll increase your chances exponentially

It would go along way for Herbie's wife to quit with him because to beat any addiction you need support and the the most effective support is usually the handiest one.

So, good luck to both you and Herbie in your quest to quit smoking and if either of you wants to talk about it feel free to PM me I may not be able to help but at least we can vent together.

BTW when I quit I used the patches and stayed on the high dose for a couple of weeks longer than the box said, same with the medium patch and it actually helped because it broke the habit part of the addiction before trying to kick the physical part. I never had to use the low dose patch because one day I was out in the shop and realised that I'd forgot to put a patch on but wasn't craving the nicotine so that was it.

Cheers good luck and have a Merry Christmas.

Right back at you & the Missus Foggy. My 'worker' is excellent. When I called to discuss the latest turn of events, she already had a copy of my Drs. report from last week. In it he rcommende tha I quit smoking. To that end, I was informed that I am covered 'for any method requred' to aid me in quitting. I have an apt with my family Doc on the 30th so I dunno, maybe I should try something along the lines pf patch or gum. etc.

I did the patch a couple of times but TBH if you follow the directions on the box you're likely gonna fail. I went online to see how long you could stay on the patch and the Ont. Medical Assn actually said you can stay on the patches forever because they're healthier than smoking. LOL

They even recommended that if you're gonna keep smoking take a break for a couple of weeks and use the patch. So if you do the patch stay on the high and medium doses until you break the habit and then the physical part will be easier.

I also tried Champix and I guess it would have worked if I hadn't followed their directions about smoking for a week and then slowly weening yourself off. I lost the desire to smoke as soon as I took the pill but by doing it their way I actually ended up restarting my nicotine addiction.

But anyway good luck and let us know how it works.

[herbie]

Nicw to know some people have more willpower than me. But carrying on like a Marine drill sergeant doesn't pass it along.
Each time I've quit it's that ashtray of half-done smokes that gets to me... even after quitting for three years once.
Look at me! I'm a full price Export A with only a few puffs gone. Your wife/gf smoked me, not like I'm lying in the gutter... c'mon just one puff.
Maybe you'll understand my disdain for Tory marijuana laws when you realize how insidious and addictive those legal tobacco sticks are. Geez a fag, mate.

[raydan]

herbie herbie:

Nicw to know some people have more willpower than me. But carrying on like a Marine drill sergeant doesn't pass it along.
Each time I've quit it's that ashtray of half-done smokes that gets to me... even after quitting for three years once.
Look at me! I'm a full price Export A with only a few puffs gone. Your wife/gf smoked me, not like I'm lying in the gutter... c'mon just one puff.
Maybe you'll understand my disdain for Tory marijuana laws when you realize how insidious and addictive those legal tobacco sticks are. Geez a fag, mate.

Same here... I lived with a smoker for 18 years. I never once tried to stop smoking because I knew I'd never be able to if she didn't try too. As soon as we broke up, I stopped, cold turkey... no problem.

[Yogi]

47 years as a smoker and the other day I finally said "To hell with it"! Washed all the ashtrays and put them up in the cupboard. Except for the crystal ones. They make nice candy dishes. I ran out of smokes on Sunday & just could not find the motivation to drive 14 km to buy some.

Now to be fair I will admit to following my Docs advice and taking Champix for 3 weeks. Started 6 weeks ago. I noticed that each time I took one I would get seriously nauseated. I quit that without a problem. I still have my pipes and a pouch of tobacco here, but no interest in lighting up. Do I miss smoking? I don't know. Just carried on with my daily routine. Will I 'stay quit'? I don't know. I'm not smoking right now anyway.

[DrCaleb]

Quitting smoking never killed anyone!

[Regina]

[Jabberwalker]

Quitting Smoking Advice Needed

Stop now. Don't have another cigarette.

I did it once and only once.