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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:18 pm
 


Based on 2002 NHL statistics. If someone can find something more current, then please post it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_NHL ... ationality

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Country ↓ Number of players ↓
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Austria 1
Belarus 3
Brazil 1
Canada 377
Switzerland 3
Czech Republic 51
Finland 30
France 1
Germany 8
Kazakhstan 1
Latvia 3
Lithuania 1
Norway 2
Russia 29
Slovakia 18
Slovenia 1
Sweden 46
United Kingdom 1
Ukraine 3
United States 153


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:21 pm
 


Brazil!??!

Interesting that there are way more than twice as many Canadian players as there are American, but four times as many American teams...


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:33 pm
 


actually, i was thinking of a game to name the player from the

really odd countries.

France, UK, Lithuania, etc.

but with a 2002 list, its a little old.. a newer list would be better :)





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Brazil!??!

Interesting that there are way more than twice as many Canadian players as there are American, but four times as many American teams...


10x the population must mean there is a little bit more cash for the game. 8O


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:36 pm
 


Robyn Regehr of the Flames was born in Recife, Brazil.

What other cities in Canada could support NHL hockey?

Hamilton ? - The Leafs don't want the competition and wish to maintain a monopoly in TO. Even if they were award a team compensation to the Leafs and Sabres would be more then the Devils paid. Team would undoubtedly sell out every night. But Leafs are a big hurdle.

Winnipeg ? - Had a team. The owner grew tired of it. The team was for sale for two years and no one in Winnipeg put together an offer. The only substantial offer came from Phoenix. No one in Winnipeg has applied for a team during recent expansion.

Quebec City ? - Same situation as Winnipeg. Nordiques were for sale but no one in Quebec City made a legitimate offer. Again no expansion bid from Quebec.

Halifax ? - You kidding. I live in Halifax. We supported the AHL on and off for 20 years but most of the time the seats where quite empty. Mooseheads drew extremely well for the first couple of years but interest is starting to wain a bit. Also we lack large corporate citizens.

Saskatoon or Regina ? - Like Halifax there is no large companies required for skybox season sales.

I would say most of our Canadian cities that can support a NHL team already have one.





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Robyn Regehr of the Flames was born in Recife, Brazil.

What other cities in Canada could support NHL hockey?

Hamilton ? - The Leafs don't want the competition and wish to maintain a monopoly in TO. Even if they were award a team compensation to the Leafs and Sabres would be more then the Devils paid. Team would undoubtedly sell out every night. But Leafs are a big hurdle.

Winnipeg ? - Had a team. The owner grew tired of it. The team was for sale for two years and no one in Winnipeg put together an offer. The only substantial offer came from Phoenix. No one in Winnipeg has applied for a team during recent expansion.

Quebec City ? - Same situation as Winnipeg. Nordiques were for sale but no one in Quebec City made a legitimate offer. Again no expansion bid from Quebec.

Halifax ? - You kidding. I live in Halifax. We supported the AHL on and off for 20 years but most of the time the seats where quite empty. Mooseheads drew extremely well for the first couple of years but interest is starting to wain a bit. Also we lack large corporate citizens.

Saskatoon or Regina ? - Like Halifax there is no large companies required for skybox season sales.

I would say most of our Canadian cities that can support a NHL team already have one.




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mtbr wrote:
hurley_108 wrote:
Brazil!??!

Interesting that there are way more than twice as many Canadian players as there are American, but four times as many American teams...


10x the population must mean there is a little bit more cash for the game. 8O


Ten times the cash, maybe, but only a twentieth the heart and soul, apparently, as out of ten times the population they can only scrounge up half as many players.





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hurley_108 wrote:
mtbr wrote:
hurley_108 wrote:
Brazil!??!

Interesting that there are way more than twice as many Canadian players as there are American, but four times as many American teams...


10x the population must mean there is a little bit more cash for the game. 8O


Ten times the cash, maybe, but only a twentieth the heart and soul, apparently, as out of ten times the population they can only scrounge up half as many players.



baseball and basketball just seem to be a little bit more popular in the US than a sheet of ice and a frozen puck....wonder why :roll:

Funny how the US can compete with Canada on the International hockey scene though :roll:

I guess they're just a little short on heart and soul.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:41 pm
 


stemmer wrote:
Robyn Regehr of the Flames was born in Recife, Brazil.


Cool!

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What other cities in Canada could support NHL hockey?

Hamilton ? - The Leafs don't want the competition and wish to maintain a monopoly in TO. Even if they were award a team compensation to the Leafs and Sabres would be more then the Devils paid. Team would undoubtedly sell out every night. But Leafs are a big hurdle.

Winnipeg ? - Had a team. The owner grew tired of it. The team was for sale for two years and no one in Winnipeg put together an offer. The only substantial offer came from Phoenix. No one in Winnipeg has applied for a team during recent expansion.

Quebec City ? - Same situation as Winnipeg. Nordiques were for sale but no one in Quebec City made a legitimate offer. Again no expansion bid from Quebec.

Halifax ? - You kidding. I live in Halifax. We supported the AHL on and off for 20 years but most of the time the seats where quite empty. Mooseheads drew extremely well for the first couple of years but interest is starting to wain a bit. Also we lack large corporate citizens.

Saskatoon or Regina ? - Like Halifax there is no large companies required for skybox season sales.

I would say most of our Canadian cities that can support a NHL team already have one.


I have no argument against those points, but how do you explain the vacuum of American talent?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:56 pm
 


Presently there are more Canadians in the NHL. Americans are second.

However hockey enrollment in the US is increasing. Canada's is stagnant.

According to IIHF statistics

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http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/countries/canada.html

<b>
ABOUT HOCKEY CANADA
</b>

Member Since

April 26, 1920

Total Players 545,363

Male Players 113,610

Female Players 73,791

Junior Players 357,962

Total Referees 35,233

Indoor Rinks 2,643

Outdoor Rinks 11,000




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http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/countries/united-states.html

<b>
ABOUT USA HOCKEY
</b>

Member since 1920

Total players 450,958

Male players 100,556

Female players 56,954

Junior players 293,448

Total Referees 25,978

Indoor Rinks 1,800

Outdoor Rinks 150



Quote:
http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/countries/russia.html

<b>
ABOUT RUSSIA HOCKEY
</b>

Member Since April 1, 1952

Total Players 82,967

Male Players 25,956

Female Players 257

Junior Players 56,754

Total Referees 500

Indoor Rinks 168

Outdoor Rinks 3




Quote:
http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/countries/sweden.html

<b>
ABOUT SWEDEN HOCKEY
</b>

Member Since March 23, 1912

Total Players 63,927

Male Players 15,001

Female Players 3,647

Junior Players 45,279

Total Referees 451

Indoor Rinks 315

Outdoor Rinks 136



Statistics for all IIHF countries are available at the site including Finland, Norway, Mexico, Urkraine, Turkey, Spain, etc...

It's only a matter of time before the US catches Canada.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:02 pm
 


Canada is "stagnant" simply because it has had very high participation for a very long time. The US has had Low participation, but that has been increasing.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:51 pm
 


here is your closest answer:

By the way Robyn Regehr of the Flames was born in Recife, Brazil. However he is a Canadian Citizen not a Brazilian National.

[web]http://www.nhlnumbers.com/countries.php[/web]


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:13 am
 


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Canada is "stagnant" simply because it has had very high participation for a very long time. The US has had Low participation, but that has been increasing.

I disagree. Canada is "NOT" stagnant nor ever will be. Truth be told, there are many growing talented American players coming in and a country with 100 times more population, will inevitably overcome a less populated country, no matter the talent.

Heck, the U.S.A doesn't even need to like hockey...ever, only their kids who like hockey which, like I said, will probably overcome Canada's overall population. It sucks but it will happen. That's exactly what Bettman wants.

I look on stats on certain players, good players expecting them to be Canadians, surprised to note they are Americans.

Most of the scoring leaders in the WHL or OHL are Americans, go figure.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:36 am
 


The Canadian birth rate is stagnant. Most immigrants coming to Canada do not come to Canada because they like hockey. Most immigrants coming to Canada prefer soccer or baseball over hockey. Sad but true.

Minor hockey registration in Nova Scotia has been decreasing slightly. While minor league soccer and little league baseball have been increasing.

Also dispposbale income among the middle class has been decreasing. Which is more cost efficient for an average sized family, enroll your child into soccer or hockey?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:34 am
 


hurley_108 wrote:
Brazil!??!

Interesting that there are way more than twice as many Canadian players as there are American, but four times as many American teams...


so what Canadian cities do you sincerely believe would/could support a NHL team? OR would you rather hi-jack any thread as an excuse to post anti-American crap?


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