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Is Immigration destroying Canada?
Yes - immigration is hurting Canada  36%  [ 30 ]
NO - We are all Immigrants in this Great Country  23%  [ 19 ]
Reform - We need to reform our Immigrantion Laws  42%  [ 35 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:10 pm
 


Image It's obvious immigrants are coming to Canada to find a better life.

However, many immigrants come to Canada, they do not want to assimilate into Canada's culture, they want to bring their own laws with them, they don't want to speak English or French, and because many immigrants are the elitist (financially well-off) they are not filling the job needs of our economy.

Many of these elitist immigrants are buying up Canadian real estate, driving up costs for the rest of us born here.

The elitist immigrants are buying businesses, and hiring the rest of his family, so they can immigrant here to, setting aside Canadians.

Do you think Canada should ban immigrantion, reform it, or leave it as is?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:25 pm
 


We are getting wholesale when we should be targeting higher end units.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:28 pm
 


Immigration will never destroy Canada but it will change it.

Ban all immigration for next 5 years while country debates it and determines course of action.

Completely ban family reunification which sees the aging parents and grandparents dumped on our already stressed healthcare and social welfare system and has completely negated the left wing belief that immigration is the solution to abortion, tax penalties for single earner families and the general selfishness of society.

Forever ban immigration from the Middle East.

Since that will never happen lets consider keeping the open door policy and banning or restricting any immigrant who is:

- not willing to assimilate.

- does not fluently speak English, French or one of the native languages.

- is an adult but lacks the equivalent of a Canadian grade 6 education.

- has AIDs, TB or any other disease.

- claims refugee status and is not from a predetermined list of countries.

- is over the age of 40 and is unable to bring a skill that is in demand.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:34 pm
 


Only if you are a First Nations Native. ;)

We need Immigrants. More the merrier, with a large enough population we won't need the US as much for Trade or anyone for that matter(as much, not totally). Our Economy will be more in our control.

Bring 'em on! (yes, even from the Middle East)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:36 pm
 


grainfedprairieboy wrote:
Completely ban family reunification which sees the aging parents and grandparents dumped on our already stressed healthcare and social welfare system and has completely negated the left wing belief that immigration....


I agree with this point very much.

... as well with your other points. But I think the above statement speaks volumes when "Canadian" have wait lines up to 2 month and longer.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:42 pm
 


A difficult questions to ponder Tritium. Traditionally our Immigrants were from Europe, but Canada has relaxed the rules on Refuges and that has become a problem. Immigration Canada is the most inept organization in Canada. It's scandle ridden and it's abuses are in the paper weekly.

We need to decide what we want in an Immigrant or Refuge, do we want skilled trades' people from Democratic countries or people from countries where they are use to Tribal Laws and customs. Europe is an example of what a Socialist System will do to a country, it kills the culture of the host country. I don't want that for Canada. I want skilled workers who want to come into Canada and build a life as a Canadian.

Toronto's Jamacian gangs are a example of what happens when you allow mass refuges to come into a province and they continue with their tribal customs of violence and lawlessness.

If Canada decides to ever address the issue the Socialist and Extreme Left will go ballistic, I can hear their screams of Racism and bigotry.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:50 pm
 


Well the reason I thought up this question, was I just returned from Sundrie Mall in Calgary, and yes I was the minority. 8O

Seemed everyone was from East India, Middle East or China. I saw very few whites.

Also, down in Texas, even in the small towns, people wave at you, they are friendly and give you a smile and hello.

I saw an older couple on hwy #2 that waived and smiled at me. (I still have Texas tags on my car) But generally people are not as friendly as I remember 12 years ago. Maybe that is a cultural difference, however if it is, that is a detriment to Canada that has immigrated here.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:56 pm
 


grainfedprairieboy wrote:
Immigration will never destroy Canada but it will change it.

Ban all immigration for next 5 years while country debates it and determines course of action.

Completely ban family reunification which sees the aging parents and grandparents dumped on our already stressed healthcare and social welfare system and has completely negated the left wing belief that immigration is the solution to abortion, tax penalties for single earner families and the general selfishness of society.

Forever ban immigration from the Middle East.

Since that will never happen lets consider keeping the open door policy and banning or restricting any immigrant who is:

- not willing to assimilate.

- does not fluently speak English, French or one of the native languages.

- is an adult but lacks the equivalent of a Canadian grade 6 education.

- has AIDs, TB or any other disease.

- claims refugee status and is not from a predetermined list of countries.

- is over the age of 40 and is unable to bring a skill that is in demand.


I agree but the cry babies and the socialist would "NEVER" allow any of your suggestions to take place. They'd rather see Canada handed over to those who will never consider themselves Canadian first and foremost. A large portion of Canadians believe we have no culture to protect so they don't care that we allow people into Canada who would rather have Sharia Law and Tribals laws. It's a mute point if the person is illiterate or uneducated in a trade or specialized field. They care more for the unknown person than Canada as a country.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:40 pm
 


So what about the proposed harmonization of Canada immigration policies with the United States under the NAFTA/NAU ??

Would this be good for Canada, or harmful?

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Immigrants leaving Liverpool, England, for Canada on the Empress of Britain, c. 1925.


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The first contingent of Savoyards leaving for Lac Saint-Jean, Quebec, under the direction of the St. Jean Repatriation and Colonization Society, 1904.


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The Metagama, operated by Canadian Pacific from 1915 to 1933.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:08 pm
 


For our anti-American friends, take out America and put in Canada, but it still rings as true.
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A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a paticular national group in America has not yet become an American.

Wodrow Wilson said this in 1915.

Trudeau and his enforced experiment with multiculturalism has failed.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:30 pm
 


grainfedprairieboy wrote:
Immigration will never destroy Canada but it will change it.

Ban all immigration for next 5 years while country debates it and determines course of action.

Completely ban family reunification which sees the aging parents and grandparents dumped on our already stressed healthcare and social welfare system and has completely negated the left wing belief that immigration is the solution to abortion, tax penalties for single earner families and the general selfishness of society.

Forever ban immigration from the Middle East.

Since that will never happen lets consider keeping the open door policy and banning or restricting any immigrant who is:

- not willing to assimilate.

- does not fluently speak English, French or one of the native languages.

- is an adult but lacks the equivalent of a Canadian grade 6 education.

- has AIDs, TB or any other disease.

- claims refugee status and is not from a predetermined list of countries.

- is over the age of 40 and is unable to bring a skill that is in demand.


I like it
I've seen some immigrants work harder than born Canadians some even right into their graves while others have done nothing but try to change the landscape. In the long run immigration will change Canada no matter what .
You can always expect immigrants will lean more toward their homeland but as long as the influence is dominant they will change with it or their Canadian born children will .


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We need to get intelligent about immigrants and bann any and all of those that are assosiated with FATWA issuing cults...they need to be shipped back to the desert...like the middle of the Sahara.
The second change should be that Russian Mafia characters should be allowed in ...to another country.
The amendments should bann anyone with any criminal past, anyone who claims refugee status yet has earned it by terrorising their own countrymen, who claims refugee status yet is still a Fatwa cult follower,
anyone who comes without money...and ALL refugees should be banned from government welfare for life.
If most of these ideas were in place they would chose another country to take over...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:41 pm
 


tritium wrote:
So what about the proposed harmonization of Canada immigration policies with the United States under the NAFTA/NAU ??

Would this be good for Canada, or harmful?



http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department ... ap-1a.html


What does it mean?

The more independence we have in regards to Immigration, the better. Like I posted earlier, we need Population, Immigration is the quickest way(without a Baby Boom) to acheive it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:42 pm
 


ridenrain wrote:
For our anti-American friends, take out America and put in Canada, but it still rings as true.
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A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a paticular national group in America has not yet become an American.

Wodrow Wilson said this in 1915.

Trudeau and his enforced experiment with multiculturalism has failed.



Rings true for the US, but not Canada.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:51 pm
 


sandorski wrote:
tritium wrote:
So what about the proposed harmonization of Canada immigration policies with the United States under the NAFTA/NAU ??

Would this be good for Canada, or harmful?



http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department ... ap-1a.html


What does it mean?

The more independence we have in regards to Immigration, the better. Like I posted earlier, we need Population, Immigration is the quickest way(without a Baby Boom) to acheive it.


Baby Bonus. Pay Canadians to have babies.

It is now to expensive to raise a family in Canada, both the Mother and Father have to work to support the family.

I would propose a drastic economic reform to Canada, Immigration Reform and a bonus and tax incentive to families.

Also, currently new immigrants can get all of our social services as a resident, I would limit that to only Medical, become a public charge and you are gone.

Furthermore, you can become a citizen within 3 years. I would extend that to 5 or 7 years.

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