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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:02 am
 


by Licia Corbella of the Calgary Herald. Saturday, December 19, 2009


Something has to give !!

Quebec and the Fairy Godmother



Today, let's have some fun and play Fairy Godmother to
Quebec .. Let's grant the province the wish it articulated in Copenhagen . Wave
the magic wand and poof, wish granted. Shut down Alberta 's oilsands, except,
since it's Quebec making the wish, we have to call it tarsands, even though
it's not tar they use to run their Bombardier planes, trains and Skidoos.

Ah, at last! The blight on Canada 's reputation shut down.
All those dastardly workers from across Canada living in Fort McMurray ,
Calgary and Edmonton out of jobs, including those waitresses, truck drivers,
nurses, teachers, doctors, pilots, engineers etc. They can all go on
Employment insurance like Ontario autoworkers and Quebec parts makers!


Closing down Alberta 's oil industry would immediately stop
the production of 1.8 million barrels of oil a day. Supply and demand being
what it is, oil prices will go up and therefore the cost at the pump will go
up, too, increasing the cost of everything else.

But lost jobs in Alberta and across the country along with
higher gas prices are a small price to pay to save the world and not
"embarrass" Quebecers on the world stage. Not to worry though, Saudi Arabia ,
Libya and Nigeria can come to the rescue. You know, the guys who pump money
into al-Qaida and help Osama bin Laden target those Van Doos fighting in
Afghanistan . Bloody oil is so much nicer than dirty tarsands oil.

Shutting down the oilsands will reduce Canada 's greenhouse
gas (GHG) emissions by 38.4 Mt (megatonnes). Hooray! It's so fun to be a
Fairy Godmother! While that sounds like a lot, Canada only produces two per
cent of the world's man-made GHGs and the oilsands only produce five per
cent of Canada 's total emissions or 0.1 per cent of the world's emissions.
By comparison, the U.S. produces 20.2 per cent of the world's

GHG emissions, 27 per cent of which comes from coal-fired
electricity.

The 530-square-kilometre piece of land currently disturbed
by the oilsands (which is smaller than the John F. Kennedy Space Center at
Cape Canaveral , Fla. at 570 square kilometres) must be reclaimed by law and
will return to Alberta 's 381,000 square kilometres of boreal forest, a huge
carbon sink.

Quebec , of course, has clean hydro power, but more than
13,000 square kilometres were drowned for the James Bay hydroelectric
project, permanently removing that forest from acting as a carbon sink.

But Fairy Godmother is digressing all over the place. While
the oilsands only produce five per cent of Canada 's GHGs, it contributes
much more to Canada 's economy. After all, oil and gas make up one-quarter of
the value on the TSX alone.. Alberta is also the largest net contributor per
capita by far to Confederation and there are only two more -- B.C. and
Ontario .

Quebec hasn't made a net contribution to the rest of Canada
for a very long time. This is not to be critical (after all, Fairy
Godmothers never criticize), it's just a fact. In 2009, Albertans paid
$40.46 billion in income, corporate and other taxes to the federal
government and received back just $19.35 billion in services and goods from
the feds. That means the rest of Canada got $21.1 billion from Albertans or
$5,742 for each and every Alberta man, woman and child. In 2007 (the last
year national figures are available), Alberta sent a net contribution of
$19.49 billion to the ROC or $5,553 per Albertan -- more than three times
what every Ontarian contributes at $1,757. Quebecers, on the other hand,
each received $627 net or a total of $8 billion, money which was designed to
help "equalize" social programs across the country. Except, that's not what
is happening. Quebec has more generous social programs like (nearly) free
university tuition (paid for mostly by Albertans) and cheap provincial day
care (paid for mostly by Albertans).

But in this Fairy Godmother world, poof, those delightful
unequal programs have now disappeared! Quel dommage!

The July 2009 Canadian Energy Research Institute (CERI)
report states that between 2008 and 2032, the oilsands will account for
172,000 person-years of employment in Ontario during the construction phase,
plus 640,000 for operations over the 25-year period. For Quebec , the
oilsands will account for 84,000 person-years of employment during the
construction phase, plus 292,000 for operations over the 25-year period.

In total, the oilsands are expected to add $1.7 trillion to
Canada 's GDP over the next 25 years.

Wave wand and Poof, Jobs, gone! So, now that the oil
industry has shut down and left Alberta , Alberta has become a have-not
province and so has every other province. Equality at last! Hugo Chavez will
be so pleased.

Meeting our Copenhagen targets suddenly looks possible, as
most of us can't afford to drive our cars or buy anything but necessities,
so manufacturers have closed their doors and emissions are way down.

The dream of many Quebecers to form their own nation and
separate from Canada has died at last. Alas, in Alberta , separatist
sentiment has risen dramatically, citizens vote to separate and the oil and
gas industry returns.

Albertans start to pocket that almost $6,000 for each person
that used to get sent elsewhere and now their kids get free tuition. Fairy
Godmother's work is done. Wish granted. Quebecers must now sign up for a
foreign worker visas to work in Alberta to send their cheques back home so
junior can start saving up to pay for college.

Licia Corbella is editorial page editor of The Calgary Herald.


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From my friend, the esteemed Dr. Mobute, here's a different sort of wish for Quebec:

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I want the Canadian prime minister to fix his and our problems by declaring Quebec a sovereign amnesty nation for American teapartiers and turn it into the first government ever to function on the principle of mutually punitive irony.


Ooooooh, yeah.......

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:50 pm
 


OH great Alberta savior of the rest of Canada. Lead us into the future with your welfare and handouts. We in the east are so greatful and humble. Alberta give us this day our daily bread! How great thou art Alberta.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:57 pm
 


If Canada is a mother, then Alberta and Quebec are the two of her kids who constantly act like arrogant douchebags and despite being so similar in so many respects, can't get along to save their lives.


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kenmore wrote:
OH great Alberta savior of the rest of Canada. Lead us into the future with your welfare and handouts. We in the east are so greatful and humble. Alberta give us this day our daily bread! How great thou art Alberta.


If they would swallow their pride and take our fiscal advice, they wouldn't need the handouts.


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Arctic_Menace wrote:
If Canada is a mother, then Alberta and Quebec are the two of her kids who constantly act like arrogant douchebags and despite being so similar in so many respects, can't get along to save their lives.


Which I find drastically funny having lived in both provinces, now residing in Alberta with many many Quebecois friends in this province.

In short, don't let the will of pollitics and big business be the stereotype the citizens are cast in.


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Arctic_Menace wrote:
If Canada is a mother, then Alberta and Quebec are the two of her kids who constantly act like arrogant douchebags and despite being so similar in so many respects, can't get along to save their lives.

When Albertans start electing MP's that blackmail Ottawa for it's support then maybe there will be a comparison.
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Cough up arena cash or kiss Quebec votes goodbye, Bloc tells Tories
The Harper government must help fund Quebec City’s bid for a new sports arena or face the wrath of irate voters come election time, Gilles Duceppe warns.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/cough-up-arena-cash-or-kiss-quebec-votes-goodbye-bloc-tells-tories/article1882526/


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:54 pm
 


Fucking Alberta whines even more than Quebec these days.


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Fuck you buddy! If it weren't for Alberta the annual revenue flow from BC's dope crop would be cut by more than half. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:05 pm
 


Yogi should have included the date this was actually in the paper.

It was a response to Charest attacking us at the Copenhagen fiasco.

Not whining, just responding.


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Alta_redneck wrote:
Yogi should have included the date this was actually in the paper.

It was a response to Charest attacking us at the Copenhagen fiasco.

Not whining, just responding.



It would have been close to the date of the following, but I'll look around to see if I can find another copy of the article that is dated, AR.

Alberta fires back at Ontario, Quebec, over oilsands emissions
By Jason Fekete, Calgary Herald December 17, 2009 Calgary — With Canada's oilsands under attack in Copenhagen, Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach went on an environmental offensive of his own Thursday with a national media blitz that assails other premiers and trumpets his province's green credentials.


In an open letter published in major Canadian newspapers, Stelmach appeared to take aim at Quebec and Ontario, and used a radio interview to throw direct jabs at the Liberal premiers of the two provinces.


Both Quebec and Ontario have used the Copenhagen climate-change talks to serve notice they don't want their greenhouse gas cuts contributing the lion's share of national reductions simply to offset rising emissions from the carbon-intensive oilsands.


On Thursday, Stelmach fired back. In the three-quarter-page newspaper ad, which cost $118,862 to run across the country — including in Montreal and Toronto — the premier said Alberta is doing its part both on the environmental and economic fronts.


"Albertans want to reduce emissions. We offer pragmatic, practical ways to do it. No one should ignore the economic stakes of this debate," Stelmach said in the ad.


"Slowing our economy is a guaranteed way to reduce emissions. But if Alberta's economy stops growing, all Canadians will feel this pain," added the premier, who skipped the Copenhagen talks and sent provincial Environment Minister Rob Renner in his place.


Stelmach said in the letter that Alberta's contribution to the federal treasury is "huge," with the province sending $21 billion more in taxes to Ottawa than it receives back in grants, programs and services.


Officials for Quebec Premier Jean Charest, who's in Copenhagen, rejected a request for an interview Thursday.


But Charest argued earlier this week at the conference that there are "Two Canadas," in that the federal government is pursuing a national climate-change plan with weaker targets than those in Quebec and Ontario. Early indications are the national strategy will offer some breaks to the oilsands.


"That doesn't reflect what we want in Quebec," Charest said. "For the provinces and territories, there are commitments that go much further."


Ontario Environment Minister John Gerretsen told a Toronto newspaper his province's "biggest fear" is Ottawa will use emissions reductions to "allow the tarsands development to proceed without hesitation."


Stelmach, however, maintained in his letter that Alberta has "led the country with emissions legislation" that penalizes companies that can't meet their targets, with the dollars paid in penalties invested in new technology that reduces emissions.


That approach "is more sensible than taking money from Canadian consumers and sending it to other countries" to offset emissions through any international cap-and-trade program, he said.


"We shouldn't waste time pointing fingers at one another. The world needs us to act, and that's exactly what we're doing," the letter concluded.


Columns and editorials appearing in such Quebec newspapers as La Presse and the Montreal Gazette have sided with Stelmach on the issue, criticizing Quebec and Ontario for "grandstanding for voters at home" by targeting the oilsands.


"Quebec and Ontario seem to forget that while Alberta spews gases, it also spews money," says a Gazette editorial.


"Alberta emission cuts would reduce profits from the tarsands, and dominoes would start to fall: Tax revenue would drop, equalization payments would decline, Quebec revenue would fall, and soon some of Quebec's social programs, Canada's most generous, would become unsupportable. Meanwhile, Alberta would be buying less of what Quebec produces and offering fewer jobs for Quebecers."


Political observers, nevertheless, said the ad will have limited effect outside Alberta.


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In a radio interview, the embattled Stelmach — whose party is facing grim polling numbers at home — ramped up his attack against Charest and Ontario's Dalton McGuinty.


"I said I can predict that Quebec is going to go grandstand (in Copenhagen)," Stelmach said. "I didn't think Ontario would because there's a lot of jobs in Ontario that are dependent on the oilsands. What happens when we take these away?"


The premier said he thought cooler heads would ultimately prevail in Denmark, believing premiers had agreed technology was the country's best tool in reducing greenhouse gas emissions without crippling the Canadian economy.


Stelmach said he's onside with Prime Minister Stephen Harper and federal Environment Minister Jim Prentice, who've also expressed their support for relying on technology, such as carbon capture and storage, to slash Canada's emissions.


"They (Harper and Prentice) had an agreement going in, and the only province that was offside was Quebec. But everybody else is onside," he said.


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Alta_redneck wrote:
Yogi should have included the date this was actually in the paper.

It was a response to Charest attacking us at the Copenhagen fiasco.

Not whining, just responding.



http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/co ... 0827cd5c23


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:48 pm
 


Zipperfish wrote:
Fucking Alberta whines even more than Quebec these days.

Yeah, first its Quebec handouts, then it's Alberta's oil and now it's British Columbia's softwood lumber....when will it ever end.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:55 pm
 


kenmore wrote:
OH great Alberta savior of the rest of Canada. Lead us into the future with your welfare and handouts. We in the east are so greatful and humble. Alberta give us this day our daily bread! How great thou art Alberta.

About time we heard some sense from you ;)


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He probably doesn't even know where Alberta is. Nothing exists outside Quebecs French only iron wall.


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