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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:49 pm
 


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061208/ap_ ... &printer=1

So is every nut bar converting to Islam to justify their own insanity?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:58 am
 


The religion of the crazies. I think we need to ban it world wide that would stop the madness.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:31 am
 


I am glad the authorities are doing an excellent job in stopping these people. I hope that guy loves prison because he gonna be there till he dies.

What are the various gangs stance on terrorists? I wonder if they'll do something to that guy.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:45 am
 


How can this be? Liberals say there's no such thing as Terrorism..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:24 am
 


It's not their fault look how oppressed they have become in the states, oh the injustice. I'm kidding, this is another example of how they've turned their religion into Media Hoes. Frankly if it were my locker she's was barring acccess to I think I might of moved her with a little shove.

The Gym Jihad
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FrontPageMagazine.com | December 7, 2006

A Muslim woman in Dearborn, Mich., lodged a complaint Tuesday against Fitness USA for an alleged civil rights violation involving a fellow gym patron. According to Jodi Berry, executive director of Fitness USA, Wardeh Sultan was praying in front of another member’s locker when the member wanted access to her belongings inside the locker. The inconvenienced patron tried to interrupt Ms. Sultan, but she remained prostrate in front of the locker and an altercation ensued. A manager was called into the locker room to intervene.

Ms. Sultan later complained that the Fitness USA management was unconcerned about the humiliation she suffered when her prayers were interrupted. She stated that the gym personnel were insensitive, rejected her complaints and did not satisfactorily intervene on her behalf. Ms. Sultan further reported that the manager told her, “You have to respect her (the other patron), but she does not have to respect your god.”

The incident is yet another example of special treatment Muslims are increasingly demanding nationwide. Last April, at the Lincoln Park, Mich. Fitness USA location, 200 Muslim women signed a petition demanding separate workout times for men and women, or, at minimum, installation of a divider between the men’s and women’s gym sections. A screen was eventually erected to obstruct the view of the women’s facilities. Another Fitness USA facility recently revised a dress code to allow Muslim women to wear more modest dress while exercising.


Other examples abound. Last week, six imams demonstrated against U.S. Airways for alleged discrimination against Muslims and their religious practices after they were detained and questioned because they had been praying in the Minneapolis airport, loudly invoking Allah’s name and uttering anti-American statements. Recently, Muslim cabdrivers refused to carry passengers possessing alcoholic beverages or accompanied by seeing-eye dogs. Last year, city public swimming pools in Seattle, responding to pressure from Muslims, instituted regularly scheduled hours for exclusive use by Muslims, including a “Muslim Sister Swim.” In June in a Chicago suburb, a Muslim girls basketball team, whose players compete wearing long, blue gowns and hijabs, requested that in competitions with non-Muslims schools, no men or boys be allowed to watch the games.

What is behind this rash of demands for tolerance and accompanying allegations of discrimination by Muslims? Could this be part of an agenda contrived to intimidate non-Muslims into enacting special concessions and privileges for Muslims that subtlety alter American society step by step? Is this the beginning of a militant movement or a cultural jihad toward incremental demands with the ultimate goal of Islamicizing the U.S. and imposing Sharia law?

At the same time, Muslims are alleging with greater frequency and vitriol that a growing intolerance of Islam exists and that the rights of Muslims to speak and worship freely are under attack by Americans. Muslim leaders such as Salam Al-Marayati, executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, insist that Muslims have a right to petition for special accommodation based on their religious beliefs as mandated by the First Amendment. In truth, no requirement exists, either in state or federal statutes, requiring that such petitions be addressed or behavior adjusted accordingly. Further, the locations in question are publicly owned businesses providing services to the general public under behavioral and societal norms accepted by the majority of Americans. These are not private clubs exclusive to Muslim patrons and nothing prevents Muslims from creating their own private clubs to accommodate their needs. If a religion prohibits males and females from swimming together, its practitioners shouldn’t swim in public pools. If devout Muslim girls must play basketball in burkas away from the gaze of boys and men, competitions may be arranged exclusively with Muslims schools.

In the case of gym patrons, how far will the requests go before non-Muslim women are subservient to the whims and demands of Muslims? If a Muslim woman decides to spontaneously pray between the bench press and the treadmill are non-Muslims expected to alter their circuit in order not to disturb her? What if Muslims decide that they are uncomfortable with the immodest attire of non-Muslims exercising around them? Will they eventually demand that all gym participants dress according to a standard that they establish as appropriate? Once a Muslim-approved standard of dress is observed in the gym, would it be extended to cover shopping malls, post offices, other community locations and eventually an entire region?

As for praying in public places, such as fitness centers and airport terminals, to what extent should this be accommodated by American society? Do Muslims really believe that a gym locker room is a desirable and appropriate place for prayer? Can’t they schedule their day to attend the gym between calls to prayer or pray silently or in their cars? Most airports have non-denominational chapels for all religions. Aren’t these spaces more appropriate for vocal and physical attitudes of prayer than a busy terminal filled with passengers? In a post 9-11 world, it is unrealistic to expect that loud proclamations of Islamic faithfulness mixed with condemnations of U.S. policy will not raise suspicion and cause alarm. The tragedy of 9-11 has forever changed the air travel experience and certain behaviors are already constrained in the interest of American security. Is vocal and extreme religious behavior exempt?

Countless others have immigrated to the United States without demanding that we change our society to meet their religious requirements. It’s unfathomable that an orthodox Jewish taxi driver would deny passage to a person eating a ham sandwich or a Jehovah’s Witness would deny service to a passenger carrying a bottle of wine. We have already re-engineered assembly lines (Tyson Foods and Dell Computer) and overturned a city noise ordinance to allow for Muslim calls to prayer. Squiggle graphics on Burger King ice cream cones were discontinued as they allegedly resembled the Arabic spelling of Allah. Under threat of a lawsuit, Nike recalled a sneaker with a heel design that was also similar to the Arabic configuration for Allah and built three playgrounds in U.S. Islamic communities designated by the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Where will this intimidation and shakedown of Americans and American institutions end? Will racism and bigotry accusations shame us into capitulating and abandoning our vigilance and security precautions? Will we be lured into curtailing our surveillance procedures, weakening the Patriot Act and enacting religious intolerance legislation focusing on Muslims? Muslim charges of victimization and discrimination have already paved the way for a variety of special treatment and dispensations. How many changes must we see on the American landscape and how far must Americans be pushed for concessions before we collectively say, “Enough?”


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:12 am
 


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:32 am
 


I say give him true muslim culture law and behead him ...it would be politically incorrect not to under the rules of true multiculturalism .


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:34 am
 


If they don't like being treated differently maybe they should go back to the caves and holes they came from.

Once again trying to use the liberties and freedoms granted by our way of life when it suites them.

since we are not allowed to pray in schools maybe they should not be allowed to pray in airports, locker rooms or anywhere public.

Where are the atheists when you need them, they should be protesting the muslim religion just as hard as they do against christianity.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:04 pm
 


Orinx Orinx:
If they don't like being treated differently maybe they should go back to the caves and holes they came from.

Once again trying to use the liberties and freedoms granted by our way of life when it suites them.

since we are not allowed to pray in schools maybe they should not be allowed to pray in airports, locker rooms or anywhere public.

Where are the atheists when you need them, they should be protesting the muslim religion just as hard as they do against christianity.


It's not fashionable to do so.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:09 pm
 


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The religion of the crazies. I think we need to ban it world wide that would stop the madness.


The Catholics were crazy too by blowing up Northern Ireland. Religion is just an excuse for these people's actions. I don't think banning religions would solve anything but just make people angrier of having to be slandered by a few individuals. But laws should not be compromised for the sake of toleration. Lawbreakers should be arrested and feel the full force of the law. Also people must be encouraged to adapt to our way of life.

I have friends here from Afghanistan and they are Muslims. They now watch hockey, are literate in English, support our armed forces, and even like our Queen (Yes I had some influence here). Leaving them alone or shoving in some corner won’t do anything you must engage with these people and teach them about our society so they can learn to become part of it.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:21 pm
 


Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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The religion of the crazies. I think we need to ban it world wide that would stop the madness.


The Catholics were crazy too by blowing up Northern Ireland. Religion is just an excuse for these people's actions. I don't think banning religions would solve anything but just make people angrier of having to be slandered by a few individuals. But laws should not be compromised for the sake of toleration. Lawbreakers should be arrested and feel the full force of the law. Also people must be encouraged to adapt to our way of life.

I have friends here from Afghanistan and they are Muslims. They now watch hockey, are literate in English, support our armed forces, and even like our Queen (Yes I had some influence here). Leaving them alone or shoving in some corner won’t do anything you must engage with these people and teach them about our society so they can learn to become part of it.


Tolerance is a 2 way street, people are free to practice there religion but why do it in peoples faces and cause confrontations.

Another point is why is it always muslims who are in the headlines trying to blow shit up???

Definitely a religion of crazies and the moderates are crazy too because they never denounce such attacks.


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Tolerance is a 2 way street, people are free to practice there religion but why do it in peoples faces and cause confrontations.

Another point is why is it always muslims who are in the headlines trying to blow shit up???

Definitely a religion of crazies and the moderates are crazy too because they never denounce such attacks.

I'm not even talking about toleration. People who don't adapt to our culture at all or live in their isolationist ghetto communities should be encouraged to break from these practices not be tolerated. I’m no fan of multiculturalism for this is what it has done divided everyone into groups. If you are around Muslims all day how will you learn anything about other people or your new country? You won’t then get sucked in with the bad apples and end up going against us. People have to take it upon themselves to break these groups up and encourage our ideals over them. In order to do that you will have to communicate with them and educate them about our society. Also find the ones spreading the rubbish and remove them from society so they won't infect the others.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:15 pm
 


Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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I have friends here from Afghanistan and they are Muslims. They now watch hockey, are literate in English, support our armed forces, and even like our Queen (Yes I had some influence here). Leaving them alone or shoving in some corner won’t do anything you must engage with these people and teach them about our society so they can learn to become part of it.


my bad, just read the first sentence and saw black,lol

I agree....


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:15 pm
 


Adopt our values or stay away , says Blair




By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
Last Updated: 1:29am GMT 09/12/2006



Your view: what next for "multicultural" Britain?
Full text of Blair's multiculturalism speech
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Tony Blair formally declared Britain's multicultural experiment over yesterday as he told immigrants they had ''a duty" to integrate with the mainstream of society.


Tony Blair yesterday: 'We don't want the hate-mongers'


In a speech that overturned more than three decades of Labour support for the idea, he set out a series of requirements that were now expected from ethnic minority groups if they wished to call themselves British.

These included "equality of respect" - especially better treatment of women by Muslim men - allegiance to the rule of law and a command of English.

If outsiders wishing to settle in Britain were not prepared to conform to the virtues of tolerance then they should stay away. He added: "Conform to it; or don't come here. We don't want the hate-mongers, whatever their race, religion or creed.

"If you come here lawfully, we welcome you. If you are permitted to stay here permanently, you become an equal member of our community and become one of us. The right to be different. The duty to integrate. That is what being British means."

advertisementMr Blair's volte face - just eight years ago he championed multiculturalism - was the culmination of a long Labour retreat from the cause. In recent weeks, Jack Straw, Ruth Kelly, John Reid and Gordon Brown have all played their part in a concerted revision of the Cabinet's stand which began in earnest after the July 7 suicide bombings in London last year.

Mr Blair, speaking in Downing Street, said the diversity of cultures in Britain should still be celebrated but the tone of his speech was against the ideology that became known as multiculturalism.

"The right to be in a multicultural society was always implicitly balanced by a duty to integrate, to be part of Britain, to be British and Asian, British and black, British and white," he said

The bombings had thrown the whole concept of a multicultural Britain "into sharp relief" and highlighted the divisions in society. While it was right that people should enjoy their own cultures, they should do so under a single set of overarching values.

"When it comes to our essential values, the belief in democracy, the rule of law, tolerance, equal treatment for all, respect for this country and its shared heritage — then that is where we come together, it is what gives us what we hold in common; it is what givesright to call ourselves British," said Mr Blair.

"At that point no distinctive culture or religion supercedes our duty to be part of an integrated United Kingdom."




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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:17 pm
 


Harper should be right with him and then we’ll see what the liberals have to say about the cesspool they have made.


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