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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:54 am
 


A British news paper salutes Canada . . . this is a
good read. It is funny how it took someone in England to put it into words...
Sunday Telegraph Article From today's UK wires: Salute
to a brave and modest nation - Kevin Myers, The Sunday Telegraph
LONDON -

Until the deaths of Canadian soldiers killed in
Afghanistan , probably almost no one outside their home country had been aware
that Canadian troops are deployed in the region. And as always, Canada will
bury its dead, just as the rest of the world, as always will forget its
sacrifice, just as it always forgets nearly everything Canada ever does.

It seems that Canada 's historic mission is to come to
the selfless aid both of its friends and of complete strangers, and then,
once the crisis is over, to be well and truly ignored.

Canada is the perpetual wallflower that stands on the
edge of the hall, waiting for someone to come and ask her for a dance. A
fire breaks out, she risks life and limb to rescue her fellow dance-goers,
and suffers serious injuries. But when the hall is repaired and the dancing
resumes, there is Canada, the wallflower still, while those she once
helped glamorously cavort across the floor, blithely neglecting her yet again.
That is the price Canada pays for sharing the North
American continent with the United States , and for being a selfless friend of
Britain in two global conflicts. For much of the 20th century, Canada was
torn in two different directions: It seemed to be a part of the old world, yet had an
address in the new one, and that divided identity ensured that it never fully
got the gratitude it deserved. Yet its purely voluntary contribution to the
cause of freedom in two world wars was perhaps the greatest of any
democracy.

Almost 10% of Canada 's entire population of seven
million people served in the armed forces during the First World War, and nearly
60,000 died. The great Allied victories of 1918 were spearheaded by
Canadian troops, perhaps the most capable soldiers in the entire British order
of battle. Canada was repaid for its enormous sacrifice by
downright neglect, it's unique contribution to victory being absorbed into the
popular Memory as somehow or other the work of the "British."

The Second World War provided a re-run. The Canadian
navy began the war with a half dozen vessels, and ended up policing nearly
half of the Atlantic against U-boat attack. More than 120 Canadian warships
participated in the Normandy landings, during which 15,000 Canadian
soldiers went ashore on D-Day alone. Canada finished the war with the
third-largest navy and the fourth-largest air force in the world.

The world thanked Canada with the same sublime
indifference as it had the previous time. Canadian participation in the war was
acknowledged in film only if it was necessary to give an American actor a
part in a campaign in which the United States had clearly not participated -
a touching scrupulousness which, of course, Hollywood has since
abandoned, as it has any notion of a separate Canadian identity.

So it is a general rule that actors and filmmakers
arriving in Hollywood keep their nationality - unless, that is, they are
Canadian. Thus Mary Pickford, Walter Huston, Donald Sutherland, Michael J.
Fox, William Shatner, Norman Jewison, David Cronenberg, Alex Trebek, Art
Linkletter and Dan Aykroyd have in the popular perception become American,
and Christopher Plummer, British.

It is as if, in the very act of becoming famous, a
Canadian ceases to be Canadian, unless she is Margaret Atwood, who is as
unshakably Canadian as a moose, or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite
unable to find any takers.

Moreover, Canada is every bit as querulously alert to
the achievements of it's sons and daughters as the rest of the world is
completely unaware of them. The Canadians proudly say of themselves - and are
unheard by anyone else - that 1% of the world's population has provided
10% of the world's peacekeeping forces. Canadian soldiers in the past half
century have been the greatest peacekeepers on Earth - in 39 missions on
UN mandates, and six on non-UN peacekeeping duties, from Vietnam to East
Timor, from Sinai to Bosnia.

Yet the only foreign engagement that has entered the
popular on-Canadian imagination was the sorry affair in Somalia , in which
out-of-control paratroopers murdered two Somali infiltrators. Their
regiment was then disbanded in disgrace - a uniquely Canadian act of
self-abasement for which, naturally, the Canadians received no international
credit.

So who today in the United States knows about the stoic
and selfless friendship its northern neighbour has given it in
Afghanistan? Rather like Cyrano de Bergerac , Canada repeatedly does honourable
things for honourable motives, but instead of being thanked for it, it
remains something of a figure of fun.

It is the Canadian way, for which Canadians should be
proud, yet such honour comes at a high cost. This past year more grieving
Canadian families knew that cost all too tragically well.


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It is about time that some news agency notices that Canadians.

The British know us and the contributions we have given throughout the world.

Unfortunately, we are beside a country who beat their chests so much and so loud, that it drowns out our acknowledgement of our victories and accomplishments. The USA maybe one of the largest and most powerful countries, but it is not "GOD" and does not control everything.


We car Canadians. We may not make a big "thing" about our accomplishments, but we do what is needed for the better of our friends and neighbours.

WAVE YOUR FLAG!! KISS THE GROUND YOU ARE ON!!!

SAY " WE ARE CANADIANS AND PROUD OF IT"!!!!!!!!!


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denmns wrote:
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SAY " WE ARE CANADIANS AND PROUD OF IT"!!!!!!!!!


I'm proud of it.
Its just too bad we have an overweight PM who will do anything and sacrifice endless Canadians lives in Afghanistan just to please the moron to the south

Now if only Canadian soldiers would stop freaking out and killing Afghani civilians we could be even prouder


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Now if only Canadian soldiers would stop freaking out and killing Afghani civilians we could be even prouder


Total utter fabrication/fantasy......

PROVE IT.

Don't use the one incident of a mentally challenged man getting shot----remember the taliban behave the same way to get their IEDs in close. They do not wear uniforms or insignia and hide among the Afghan people who they calously slaughter in attempts to kill our people.

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Total utter fabrication/fantasy......

PROVE IT.

Don't use the one incident of a mentally challenged man getting shot----remember the taliban behave the same way to get their IEDs in close. They do not wear uniforms or insignia and hide among the Afghan people who they calously slaughter in attempts to kill our people.

It happens.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:32 am
 


Our troops over there probably get more press than a lot of others because we not only have very fine fighting me and women, but have an excellent journalist embedding program that journalists from around the world are attempting to take part in.


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baylee wrote:
denmns wrote:
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SAY " WE ARE CANADIANS AND PROUD OF IT"!!!!!!!!!


Now if only Canadian soldiers would stop freaking out and killing Afghani civilians we could be even prouder


That's one of the stupidest comments I've read on here in awhile. I'd love to see you back it up.


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Ummm .... sorry, I posted this a couple of weeks ago. Didn't I?


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Motorcycleboy wrote:
That's one of the stupidest comments I've read on here in awhile. I'd love to see you back it up.


Are you saying you have missed all the incidents of Canadian soldiers blowing away innocent civillians ?

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remember the taliban behave the same way to get their IEDs in close.

So once again, a right winger.( sasquack) is saying because they do it it is OK for Canadians to murder innocent civillians

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Now if only Canadian soldiers would stop freaking out and killing Afghani civilians we could be even prouder



The result of American infuences within our Canadian society.


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Nick-the-Canadian wrote:
baylee wrote:
denmns wrote:
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SAY " WE ARE CANADIANS AND PROUD OF IT"!!!!!!!!!


Its just too bad we have an overweight PM who will do anything and sacrifice endless Canadians lives in Afghanistan just to please the moron to the south

Don't ever say that about our soldiers, you god-damned piece of shit.
You and everyone like you are a fucking shame to this country


Well if Canadian soldiers would stop acting like Americas( murdering civillians) then maybe they could get some respect.

Until then, every Canadian death is ...well,you know

And please,right wing war lovers, stop the swearing

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baylee wrote:
Nick-the-Canadian wrote:
baylee wrote:
denmns wrote:
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SAY " WE ARE CANADIANS AND PROUD OF IT"!!!!!!!!!


Its just too bad we have an overweight PM who will do anything and sacrifice endless Canadians lives in Afghanistan just to please the moron to the south

Don't ever say that about our soldiers, you god-damned piece of shit.
You and everyone like you are a fucking shame to this country


Well if Canadian soldiers would stop acting like Americas( murdering civillians) then maybe they could get some respect.

Until then, every Canadian death is ...well,you know

And please,right wing war lovers, stop the swearing

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Have you met Dayseed yet...I believe it would be a match made in heaven.One can troll the other can bait.


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Have you met Dayseed yet...I believe it would be a match made in heaven.One can troll the other can bait.


If that was meant for me..again can you right wingers please refraim from swearing and name calling?
to the old time right wingers on this forum


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If that was meant for me..again can you right wingers please refraim from swearing and name calling?
to the old time right wingers on this forum


You think fats is a right winger?





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