There's a whole topic devoted to this somewhere on these forums and I thought it was agreed on that it was the British that scorched the white house. They did eat the feast that was there as the Yanks ran and it used to be a pink house but was whitewashed after the Brits scorched it. Thought we put the myth to rest a long time ago but it allways seems to surface time and time again,I said it before,repeat after me.
We didnt burn down the whitehouse.
We didnt burn down the whitehouse.
We didnt burn down the whitehouse.
We didnt burn down the whitehouse.
I dont know where the topic is buried now but it had all the links that showed who did what.
I think this topic shows up about once a month. I bet it's on snopes even.
jadeofthenorth
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:29 pm
NYCisHome wrote:
Jadeofthenorth So let me get this sraight.......I am From New York..........So if i fought in the Second world war..............New york Defeated Germany and Japan? pretty warped way of thinking is it not?
Canadians burned the white house, just like New Yorkers (not new york) defeated Germany and Japan in WWII, canadians also defeated Germany and Japan in WWII.
Saying 'Canadians burnt the white house' doesn't state that they did it alone. Just like when I say I post on Canadaka.com, doesn't mean that I"m the only one who does it.
Consider that you're grammer/logic lesson for the day.
ziggy
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:23 pm
We didnt.
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Canadians burned the white house
The Brit's man....the Brit's.
Bonglord
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:15 pm
ziggy wrote:
We didnt.
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Canadians burned the white house
The Brit's man....the Brit's.
Whoops, time to put down this here ol American history text and pick up this nice shiney new "Canadian" version. Sorry to say it pal but we did.
ManifestDestiny
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:26 pm
proof Bonglord proof.. Like I said so then we beat Canada in the Revoultion of 1776?
ziggy
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:35 pm
Bonglord wrote:
ziggy wrote:
We didnt.
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Canadians burned the white house
The Brit's man....the Brit's.
Whoops, time to put down this here ol American history text and pick up this nice shiney new "Canadian" version. Sorry to say it pal but we did.
Better re-read that history book bud. Or take as much time to search for the topic on this site as I took to find the info and post it here.
This whole thing was debated and I thought settled a long time ago.
Mustang1
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:47 pm
I’m not sure if this will helps or hinder the debate (but it might add another dimension), but from a historiographical standpoint, many cultures/nationalities receive their nation-state’s descriptive moniker well before said state is officially born. For instance, American texts often refer to colonials as “American” and yet there was no formal political entity in existence till the declaration of Independence in 1776. Germany unified in 1870, but “Germanic” references were used for Saxons, Prussian, Bavaria, etc well before formal political nation-state creation. A similar historical trend is also seen in regards to the fragmented Italian states as they too carried the “Italian” label before Italian Unification.
The burning of Parliament in 1849. Another dramatic and frightening event, which changed Montréal in a fundamental way. The spectacular fire - it totally destroyed the legislative building - was set by an angry mob.
Shades of the many European revolts of 1848. Except here, the mob was a "conservative" one - mainly English Montrealers infuriated by the reformist Parliament's new law compensating French rebels for losses in the uprisings of 1837-38. Burning the building didn't snuff out the law but it ended Montréal's position as capital of the united colonies of Canada! Ottawa was selected by Queen Victoria as a safer haven for politicians! By the way, that burned-out Parliament building was actually located on the same square as the Centre d'histoire that you're now visiting.
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Like "Comrade" RUEZ said, it's a frigging howl to see NYCisHome get his panties in a knot over this!
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The militia of upper Canada, the British army, and some native groups all fought on the "Canadian" side in the war of 1812. I'm not sure of the details, but I know there were 'Canadians' at the burning of the white house.
Canada wasn't nothing one day, then a country the next. The title 'Canada' existed long before confederation. There were Canadians during 1812.
This I agree with wholeheartedly. JadeoftheNorth has nailed it here.
Canadians are not only proud to have burned down the White House; they also did the treasonous act of burning down their own parliamentry building. NICE
I am sure these posters are equally proud of that act as well
ziggy
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:48 am
Those bloody British.
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As one of those resident historian types here, I'd say you got the gist of it, especially the rather amusing if insulting name the Brits gave the battle.
The prepared dinner the Brits sat down to at the President's Mansion aka The Pink House (remember it didn't get the name White House until after it was torched, the white being the white wash used to cover the scorch marks) was supposed to be the "victory dinner" for the US troops after they "sent the invaders back to their ships."
As the Brits were the "victors" and as the US generals and political types were otherwise occupied that evening still "withdrawing in great haste" and as the dinner was already cooked why let it go to waste. They ate it prior to engaging in a little post meal arson.
The only "Canadian connection" with this campaign is that the fleet stopped in Halifax on the way back to Europe and the commander of the troops, General Ross, who was killed at Baltimore isburied there.
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The burning of Washington did not, IIRC, involve any Canadian troops although this is a persistent Canadian myth. As far as I know, the troops were all British Army, Royal Marines and sailors landed on the Maryland coast by the Royal Navy. They marched inland, scattered the hasty US defense at the Battle of Bladensburg (rudely referred to by the British as the "Bladensburg Races" due the speed with which US troops buggered off), then got to work making a mess of Washington.
Ok, anti-American propaganda wins again with some of the Canadians in here.
The British Army, under General Robert Ross burnt the Whitehouse.
The Regiments involved were, 4th (Kings Own) 21st (Royal North British Fusiliers), 44th (East Essex) and the 85th Regiment of Foot. Also elements of the Royal Marines and the Royal Artillery were involved.
NO CANADIAN MILITIA OR OTHER UPPER/LOWER CANADA INVOLVEMENT.
It is a blatant lie to say Canada burnt the Whitehouse. Most of you saying this have no trouble in disregarding our Imperial past. You can’t have it both ways.
Read a history book.
ziggy
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:19 am
Untill next month,then it will be a topic again.
EyeBrock
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:39 am
I agree Ziggy, how many times do we have to rehash this one? Its all there in any decent history book. The British Army, not Canadians, burnt the bloody building!
jadeofthenorth
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:09 am
Many British soldiers remained stationed in Canada and even lived the rest of thier lives in Canada.
I bet it's on snopes even.
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