[ManifestDestiny]

OOOOO GOD please are you serious JadeWhen the truth smacks you in the face di ussually walk away like nothing happened?

[_747]

Who burnt the parliamentry building

Was it Canadians or British Subjects

As Quebecois, I will with agree with the majority of posters. The Canadians burnt the Whitehouse, and they also burnt the Parliamentary Building. And thanks to these proud Canadians, this act transfered Canada's capital from Montreal to Ottawa. Definately a history to brag about.

What should Americans and the Quebecois make of these acts by the Canadians

I know I am suppose to get 1759 But Canadians should get 1867

[jadeofthenorth]

NYCisHome wrote:

OOOOO GOD please are you serious JadeWhen the truth smacks you in the face di ussually walk away like nothing happened?

I did a lot of studying specifically on Isaac Brock, Tecumseh and the Battle of Queenston Heights; but, not on the burning of Washington. My knowledge of the details on the boW are unclear, but I know enough about the composition of the military to know they regularly employeed Canadian Militia and First Nations. Many lived and died Canadian heros.

George Prevost was also presant at the burning of Washington; considering his position, he's pretty damn Canadian.

[Newfie Scott]

The War of 1812 was a war in which the United States attempted to "liberate" Canada from Britain's rule in retaliation for the impressment of Americans into the service of the Royal Navy (among other reasons).

Thus, since Britain was fighting for Canada and along side our militia soldiers, when Britain burned the White House, they did so in the name of Canada in a way. This is why Canadians commonly believe that we burned the White House - not to mention that the British Army was our national military at the time since we were still a colony of Britain.

Just have to dispel the militia myth at this point or I'd go mad - to clarify, the Canadian militia soldiers in the War of 1812 did jack all in the grand scheme of things to keep Canada free. It was the leadership of British Regulars and their skill which kept Canada free from the United States - as well as the United States Army not yet being a competant military in 1812.

Technically, Canada did not burn the Whitehouse - no Canadian militia units were present at the event. Yes there may have been some soldiers of Canadian heritage at the burning, but that hardly makes it a technical Canadian act. Britain burned the White House, Canada did not. But Canada can lay claim to the credit as the White House was burned in response to the United States threatening Britain via Canada.

[My interpretation of history anyways, but yeah, we didn't burn the White House, though we were one of the reasons why it was]

[EyeBrock]

Jade, be careful if you go on a cruise because the world is flat. The moon is made of cheese. The taxi is on its way. Of course I love you, your arse doesn't look fat in those jeans and Canadian Special Forces burnt down the Whitehouse, aided by the Regiment of New France, in the war of 1812.

I hope that settles that.

History by Blue's clues.

[-Mario-]

Upper and Lower Canada appeared on the Map in 1792... so you could say that Canadians... in red coat... burnt the White House.

[ziggy]

[RUEZ]

IMO since "Canada" wasn't a country at that time "Canadians" didn't burn the white house, but also our history didn't just start the moment we became "Canadian" therefore we as British subjects did burn the white house, not under the "Canadian" flag but under the British one. And it's still funny how some people on this forum get so upset when you say "Canada" burned the white house. Little wee "Canada"

[Newfie Scott]

*sigh* guess some people just don't want to accept historical fact. We can't even say that since we were British subjects that we burned the White House because there isn't one tangible link between the British subjects who lived in the colonies of Canada and the ones who actually burned the White House. Canadians had no part in the actual burnign of the White House, we were just a reason for it (and not the sole reason).

PS. The ones who BURNED the White House were, for the most part, actual BRITONS. This is mainly because of the composition of the British Regular Army at the time in Britain. The attacking force on Washington came directly from Britain, whose military garrisons, like the Regular Army, were pretty much all Britons (term used broadly, more accurate to say people from the British Isles and Ireland).

[Newfie Scott]

Kinda makes you want to go on television and state to the country as a matter of fact we did not burn the White House, but when it comes to fact and our relationship with the United States, Canadians prefer to accept fiction if that fiction makes it seem as though we actually did something grevious to the United States at some point in history. Canadians should take pride for the victories in which we PARTICIPATED in the War of 1812 against the American forces, not ones which we missed out on, but were so major and insulting to the United States that we feel we should take credit.

The addage that you "can't be Canadian without being Anti-American" is so very rampant these days. A pity really that many Canadians must use the United States as a comparison for why our nation is great. Don't get me wrong though, such blind patriotism is great in wartimes.

[Bonglord]

JadeoftheNorth wrote:

Many British soldiers remained stationed in Canada and even lived the rest of thier lives in Canada.

Yes, my point. Eyebrock, Canadians where THERE!! Yes its true they were. Read a Canadian history book, god knows I have many. Ok fine, not in the thousands but truth be told they were there, like it or not they were. I think that being Canadian you would be more...forthcoming at this not the opposite.

[Bonglord]

RUEZ wrote:

IMO since "Canada" wasn't a country at that time "Canadians" didn't burn the white house, but also our history didn't just start the moment we became "Canadian" therefore we as British subjects did burn the white house, not under the "Canadian" flag but under the British one. And it's still funny how some people on this forum get so upset when you say "Canada" burned the white house. Little wee "Canada"

Well regardless of whether or not Canada was an "Official nation" the area was called upper and lower Canada, ..Canada, sounds familiar.

[ManifestDestiny]

Bonglord wrote:

JadeoftheNorth wrote:

Many British soldiers remained stationed in Canada and even lived the rest of thier lives in Canada.

Yes, my point. Eyebrock, Canadians where THERE!! Yes its true they were. Read a Canadian history book, god knows I have many. Ok fine, not in the thousands but truth be told they were there, like it or not they were. I think that being Canadian you would be more...forthcoming at this not the opposite.

So in your words being Canadain means you must not look at facts and believe what you are told. If you have these book quotes then post the quotes and list the source, simple. I am not gonna take your word for it. If you look back I have put in many links to hold my theroy up. And just cause many KEY WORD HERE BRITISH soilders satyed in Canada after the war does not make them canadian.

[Bonglord]

Newfie Scott wrote:

Kinda makes you want to go on television and state to the country as a matter of fact we did not burn the White House, but when it comes to fact and our relationship with the United States, Canadians prefer to accept fiction if that fiction makes it seem as though we actually did something grevious to the United States at some point in history. Canadians should take pride for the victories in which we PARTICIPATED in the War of 1812 against the American forces, not ones which we missed out on, but were so major and insulting to the United States that we feel we should take credit.

The addage that you "can't be Canadian without being Anti-American" is so very rampant these days. A pity really that many Canadians must use the United States as a comparison for why our nation is great. Don't get me wrong though, such blind patriotism is great in wartimes.

Well after reading all that.. interesting points, Historical fact is that Canadians participated in the battle at Washington. Dont know why you keep mentioning the fact of anti-Americanism or whatnot but ok.. You seem to be more of a denier then knower.

[Bonglord]

NYCisHome wrote:

Bonglord wrote:

JadeoftheNorth wrote:

Many British soldiers remained stationed in Canada and even lived the rest of thier lives in Canada.

Yes, my point. Eyebrock, Canadians where THERE!! Yes its true they were. Read a Canadian history book, god knows I have many. Ok fine, not in the thousands but truth be told they were there, like it or not they were. I think that being Canadian you would be more...forthcoming at this not the opposite.

So in your words being Canadain means you must not look at facts and believe what you are told. If you have these book quote the and list the source simple. I am not gonna take your word for it. If you look back I have put in many links to hold my theroy up.

Forget it, im not going to debate with Eyebrock who seems pro-British in my book and you. Your right, British did all the work, not Canadians.