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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 9:26 pm
 


CANADIAN MARCH FOR LIFE DRAWS 3,500 - MAJORITY YOUTH - MEDIA BLACKOUT

OTTAWA, May 15, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - LifeSite News staff are rejuvenated after having attended the Canadian national March for Life in Ottawa yesterday. Over 3,500 pro-lifers joined in the March which was led this year by fourth degree Knights of Columbus in full regalia. The numbers showed an increase of over 1000 participants from last year's count. The march from Parliament commenced with encouraging speeches by pro-life parliamentarians, pro-life leaders and religious leaders including two Catholic bishops.

Despite media advisories sent to all major media announcing the March, a search of Canadian English media coverage exposed a total media blackout of the event. Even locally, the Ottawa Citizen newspaper failed to cover the event in today's paper. LifeSite searched for coverage in all major media outlets including CBC, CTV, Global, National Post, Globe and Mail, and the Toronto Star.

Despite the media blackout, the House of Commons recognized the March. Alliance MP Maurice Vellacott, a co-chair of the pro-life caucus, said yesterday in the House:

"Today marks the sixth annual March for Life celebration on Parliament Hill. Earlier this afternoon thousands of Canadians from coast to coast came together outside this Parliament building to affirm their commitment to the value of life from conception to natural death.

"Yesterday some members of parliament from all parties held a press conference in conjunction with this event. Women who shared the podium with us told of the harmful effects of abortion on their health and well-being. These women want the same standards of informed consent to exist for abortion as are required in other areas of health care. Strong reproductive health policy needs to recognize these concerns. Public policy needs to be based on the most current research available. This would be consistent with a commitment to excellence in women's health.

"I want to thank all those who are in town for the March for Life for keeping these issues before us while we legislate in this place."

Liberal MP Paul Steckle also spoke in the House saying, "Today on the front steps of Parliament citizens peacefully demonstrated to show their desire for new laws to protect our unborn children. Without an abortion law on the books, every year in Canada we permit more than 100,000 innocent lives to be terminated without any consideration for the lost human potential. "I applaud the people outside who are taking the time to remind Parliament that it is our duty to protect those who are not able to protect themselves.
I offer my support for the belief that all life is a sacred gift from the moment of conception to the point of natural death.

"Most important, I would urge my colleagues to keep this philosophy in mind as Parliament considers issues involving embryonic stem cells and human reproductive technologies. In short, just because science says that we can do something does not mean that we should."




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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 1:17 pm
 


Whatever, wanna-be US republicans, moralistically self-righteous, pompous, foolish, etc....





PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 5:39 pm
 


I assume that since you're engaging in ad hominem attacks, you don't have an argument. Plus you spew the usual prejudices against pro-lifers.

As a matter of fact, lots of pro-lifers are not Republicans. A number of Liberal MP's are pro-lifers. Pope John Paul II can not be said to be totally right-wing when it comes to economic policies.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:52 pm
 


What's wrong with having respect for the potental for life in those yet unborn Bookie?





PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 4:52 am
 


22 PARLIAMENTARIANS PARTICIPATED IN MARCH FOR LIFE - A HUGE SUCCESS

OTTAWA, May 16, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A total of 22 pro-life Members of Parliament attended the March for Life in Ottawa on Wednesday. In addition, 11 MPs attended the Banquet which followed the March. In addition to short comments from the MPs, the crowd of 3,500 (60% of which was youth) was addressed by dignitaries including Bishop Jean Louis Plouffe - Diocese of Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario; Rev. Robert McRoberts - Pastor, Calvary Baptist Church; Dr. Jack Wilke, President of International Right To Life Federation; and Mr. Jean Migneault - Deputy Supreme Knight - Knights of Columbus, New Haven Connecticut.

Church services on May 14th included a prayer service at St. George's Anglican Church led by Rev. Robert McRoberts, and a Mass at St. patrick's Basilica. At the Basilica, the Mass was celebrated by Bishop Paul -André Durocher of Alexandria Diocese. There was standing room only at the Church. The Knights made an impressive display, at least thirtyof them were there in full regalia.

The March for Life also included two youth pro-life conferences on the day before and after the March which were well attended. Also included was a candlelight vigil, attended by about 250 people. The group processed from a nearby church to the Monument to Human Rights at which a ceremony was held.

The wind-up to the March was the Banquet at the Ottawa Congress Centre with guest speaker Dr. John Willke. The MPs in attendance each addressed those present and were enthusiastically received. Tory MP Elsie Wayne was twice given a standing ovation and a congratulatory plaque in recognition of her integrity. In addition, Alliance MP Jason Kenney announced that he was in the process of proposing legislation similar to that in the United States' Unborn Victims of Violence Act.

The MPs in attendance at the March included:
1. Elsie Wayne - Co-Chair Parliamentary Pro-Life Caucus 2. Maurice Vellacott - Co-Chair 3. Paule Steckle - Co-Chair 4. Pat O'Brien 5. James Lunney 6. Rob Merrifield 7. Reed Elley 8. David Anderson 9. Jason Kenney 10. Dan McTeague 11. Paul Szabo 12. Rose-Marie Ur 13. Monte Solberg 14. Rob Anders 15. Tom Wappel 16. Cheryl Gallant 17. Janko Peric 18. Myron Thompson 19. Norman Doyle 20. Brian Fitzpatrick Present in the crowd - but did not speak Ray Bonin Ghislain Labelle Ken Epp - unable to attend - sent a statement which was read

Members of Parliament in Attendance at the Banquet:
1. Janko Peric 2. Larry Spencer 3. David Anderson 4. Reed Elley 5. Elsie Wayne 6. Jason Kenney 7. Paul Szabo 8. Rob Merrifield 9. Norman Doyle 10. James Lunney 11. Leon Benoit


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:29 am
 


What's wrong is the lack of respect for other people's personal freedoms.

I won't get into the pro-life quacks who kill in the name of god. But I will say that it is wrong to try and impose your morality on others.


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 4:07 pm
 


Totally agree with Bookie there... the state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation. The forces of anti-abortion, and more largely, the Christian Right must be fought against, as they are fundamentally anti-Canadian.

Furthmore, the term "partial birth" abortion was a term made up by the abortion lobby - and the passage of the said bill in the US was a largely political maneuvor to undercut the public support for abortion. "Partial birth" abortions make up less than 1% of abortions.

A recent Statscan report stated that Canada is growing more, not less secular. We must fight to ensure that Canadian values - secular government, tolerance - are protected against the forces of bigotry and Republicanism. What we have here is too precious.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 10:07 pm
 


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but pro-lifers take heart from their predecessors who have succeeded against the odds in letting the rest of the world recognize that slaves, women, children, Jews, workers, the disabled, etc. all have equal dignity


Oh please. The anti-abortion Southern Christians of today were the anti-civil rights crusaders of yesterday. The Christian Right as a leader in civil rights and progressive causes? How absurd. If the SoCons are really interested in "human rights" and "equal dignity," why do they oppose gay marriage so stringently? That surely is an issue of "human rights" and "equal dignity" if there ever was one - and to boot, nobody is hurt by its being permitted! The reason is clear - the Christian Right isn't really about "equal dignity" at all, it's about taking their narrow Biblical lessons and applying them to public policy which affects all Canadians.

Canadians have always opposed social conservatism, and have always fought to keep religion out of their government - that's why the Canadian Alliance keeps on losing, and will continue to lose. Thankfully, Canadians, unlike their neighbours to the south, understand the importance of a separation of church and state.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 3:10 pm
 


For the record I'm for gay marrages. I'm also for civil rights. That's why I oppose abortion. I don't care whether a fetus is a person or not. It has the potentale to be, that's enough. Kill it and you destroy it's potentale. That is the same as murder.

BTW Church and State are seperate in the US. Bush's personal beliefs are just that.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 5:39 pm
 


A brain-dead person in a coma hooked up to tubes has the potential to come back too. Does that mean the family shouldn't have the right to pull the plug???


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:14 pm
 


Tough question. Personally if the doctors declared me brain-dead and the only thing keeping my body alive was a machine I'd want my family to pull the plug. I think that this is an issue that should be discussed with family members.





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Canadians have always opposed social conservatism, and have always fought to keep religion out of their government -


No, there have been a number of examples: Duplessiste Quebec and Bible Bill in the Thirties.

I think that generalization does not stand up to historical scrutiny.

In the 1930's, there was a movement to sterilize mentally handicapped people. Who led the crusade against it: Catholics.

During the Cold War, who led the fight agaisnt communist regimes that were totally agaisnt human rights? Catholics.

Who is the world's biggest charity? The Catholic Church.

When there's an unjust war, who's the first to call for peace? The Pope. He spoke out agaisnt the war in the Gulf, the War in the Balkans and other conflicts.

Who is one of the world's foremost opponents of the death penalty, intervening in individual cases to get clemency? The pope.

I can't speak for all varieties of Christians, but I know that Catholics do stand up for human rights. And it is the Catholics who are on the forefront of the fight for unborn rights in Canada, not the Evangelicals. While Evangelicals are against it, the leadership is from Catholics.

This idea that gay marriage is a right, is ludicrous. Two men do not naturally procreate. That's why it's not a marriage. The state has no interest in investing in the dating relationships of two guys, but it does have a vested interest in protecting the sanctity of marriage.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:41 am
 


I was looking around this site and with all of the heated debates here, it suprised me that "the abortion debate" was not really one of them.

I have tried, unsuccessfully so far, to determine party policies for abortion as it relates to the upcoming election here in Canada; but it seems that the topic is still too touchy to go near. I could probably take a pretty good shot at each parties stance, but would like to see/hear it from them as opposed to making wild accusations as many here are known to do. :?

This debate is far from over and I would like to see this topic adressed more frequently to determine what the plan is for some of these parties.

I'll wait to see some of the comments I think before I jump in as I'm going to attempt to at least delay the flaming. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:26 am
 


Don't worry, it's been "discussed" a few times.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:33 am
 


Where?

Have the threads been deleted?

I did a search for the word and came up with not a single thread that had "abortion" in the subject line, and the majority of the word's occurances in the subject body are out of context to the ongoing debate, or simply mentioned in passing.


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