[herbie]

I'm not comparing you to Trump FFS!
You cite the EU as someone imposing THEIR law on us, and I did just that.

And obviously what YOU think the people of Britain want is not what satisfies them, it doesn't even satisfy Theresa May and her party.
They should've had an election with clear choices from each party for the people to pick including parties with a no Brexit policy.

[Thanos]

herbie herbie:

They should've had an election with clear choices from each party for the people to pick including parties with a no Brexit policy.

Oddly enough an election like that would have meant the demise of Corbyn as leader because he always been against membership in the EU but the bulk of Labour now, the remaining Blairites and the new socialists alike, are in favour of staying.

[Sunnyways]

Why isn’t the Mail siding with raab-id, hard (ooh, matron), cliff-jumping brexiteers against May? Lord help me, now I’m quoting something in the Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... finds.html

Just goes to show the mad times in which we live.

[martin14]

herbie herbie:

They should've had an election with clear choices from each party for the people to pick including parties with a no Brexit policy.

They had, no Brexit was the Liberal Democrats. 12 seats out of 630.
80% of votes went to parties whose official policy was to leave the EU.

Thanos Thanos:

Oddly enough an election like that would have meant the demise of Corbyn as leader because he always been against membership in the EU but the bulk of Labour now, the remaining Blairites and the new socialists alike, are in favour of staying.

Corbyn wants out of the EU so he can implement his Socialist Revolution™.
EU rules prevent governments from nationalizing stuff.
His strategy is to crash the government any way he can, then he can blame
the resulting chaos for the next Chavez Maduro period on the Tories. Very dangerous.

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Why isn’t the Mail siding with raab-id, hard (ooh, matron), cliff-jumping brexiteers against May? Lord help me, now I’m quoting something in the Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... finds.html

Just goes to show the mad times in which we live.

New Editor.

Remoaner.

Paid shill.

You should read the comments below the article.

[N_Fiddledog]

People have trouble believing that when the Daily Mail exhibits a political slant it is decidedly "Progressive." It's been that way for a few years now. Those who refuse to acknowledge this don't read the articles.

[Sunnyways]

Brexit was always going to lead here. Leavers and Remainers can at least agree that the Conservative Party should have decided what its position on Brexit was a long time ago. The delay in producing this document has been extraordinary.

[ccga3359]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Brexit was always going to lead here. Leavers and Remainers can at least agree that the Conservative party should have decided what its position on Brexit was a long time ago.

Brexit is not a left/right issue. UKIP during the European election gained a vast number from traditional Labour voters. The current Labour leader is a staunch Brexiteer. The problem was that the Conservative party ended up electing a remainer as their leader even though the country had just voted to leave the EU. Just like in the 1975 EEC referendum the then prime minister, Edward Heath did not campaign for or against joining the Common Market. He let the people decide and then just got on with it. Cameron made the mistake of campaigning for remaining after just been humiliated in the February 2016 "re-negotiation" with the EU.

[Sunnyways]

ccga3359 ccga3359:

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Brexit was always going to lead here. Leavers and Remainers can at least agree that the Conservative party should have decided what its position on Brexit was a long time ago.

Brexit is not a left/right issue. UKIP during the European election gained a vast number from traditional Labour voters. The current Labour leader is a staunch Brexiteer. The problem was that the Conservative party ended up electing a remainer as their leader even though the country had just voted to leave the EU. Just like in the 1975 EEC referendum the then prime minister, Edward Heath did not campaign for or against joining the Common Market. He let the people decide and then just got on with it. Cameron made the mistake of campaigning for remaining after just been humiliated in the February 2016 "re-negotiation" with the EU.

Of course it’s not a simple left/right issue but the political party that started a process like this should have been able to conclude it a long time ago. The Conservatives turned out to be at least as divided as the country on Brexit.

[PluggyRug]

'bout time the Brits are able to buy Cox's Pippins and not Golden Delicious.

[BartSimpson]

The fucking Spanish are now saying there won't be a Brexit deal unless the UK gives up Gibraltar.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10477 ... ent-latest

The only good thing about their ridiculous demand is that it means the bullshit Brexit deal with the goddamned EU is dead.

[llama66]

Gibraltar is as British as her Majesty. What's next? The Argentinians trying for the Falklands again? The world has forgotten the British Empire. I say it's high time for another empire. (not a shot at the Queen being technically German, truly, Gibraltar is British territory)

[ccga3359]

llama66 llama66:

Gibraltar is as British as her Majesty. What's next? The Argentinians trying for the Falklands again? The world has forgotten the British Empire. I say it's high time for another empire. (not a shot at the Queen being technically German, truly, Gibraltar is British territory)

Gibraltar 98.9% voted to remain British in 2002, Falklands voted 99.8% to remain British in 2013, what is it about governments not caring about a peoples right to sovereignty and self-determination? Spain and Argentina must realize that these two, independent British countries are not bargaining chips.

[Sunnyways]

The Spanish PM is correct in saying that Gibraltar is not part of the UK. That’s why quite a few oligarchs pretend to live there and avoid taxes in their own country.

This matter also illustrates the virtual impossibility of May being able to get another deal from the 27 remaining countries as some of her Cabinet colleagues have demanded.

[llama66]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

The Spanish PM is correct in saying that Gibraltar is not part of the UK. That’s why quite a few oligarchs pretend to live there and avoid taxes in their own country.

This matter also illustrates the virtual impossibility of May being able to get another deal from the 27 remaining countries as some of her Cabinet colleagues have demanded.

Gibraltar is part of the UK. Its an Overseas Territory, Just like Bermuda or the Turks and Caicos. If the UK is going to leave the EU, they need to just cut the cord and deal with the inevitable recession. The sooner they they leave the sooner they recover.

[BartSimpson]

llama66 llama66:

Gibraltar is part of the UK. Its an Overseas Territory, Just like Bermuda or the Turks and Caicos. If the UK is going to leave the EU, they need to just cut the cord and deal with the inevitable recession. The sooner they they leave the sooner they recover.

I don't think that a recession in the UK is going to be an inevitable result of seceding from the EU.

To the contrary, I believe a lot of capital will flee the EU to the safe harbor of the UK and the UK will end up prospering.