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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:23 am
 


Proculation wrote:
That's what happens when you give democracy to animals.

I'd say 'socially under developed'. Animals? Come on Proc.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:33 am
 


Pretty pessimistic post but sad to say it makes a case. Damn.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:48 pm
 


Desalinisation plants along the coastlines. Israel can afford to build them, can the Gaza and West Bank Arabs? If supplies are cut off to the Israelis, then they are cut off to everyone else.


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Some of you actually think it would be a good thing if the military kept rule in Egypt? Really? This is a military that is detaining anyone who speaks out against it and trying them in military court. They have used excessive force in putting down peaceful protests, killing over 40 people with tear gas, beating and even live ammunition. Yes, shooting and killing peaceful protesters to try to silence them.

Having a conservative religious group running a country is never a good thing, in my opinion, (hey, look at the States), but it is democracy, and that is what the people choose (at least in the first round of elections) - so that is what they want. They aren’t going to invade Israel or be a threat to anyone in the Western world, if they actually turn into a legitimate democracy, they’ll be too concerned with rebuilding their country.

And transisions to democracy from dictatorships are hard. The first European countries (like France) that made the transition took hundreds of years to get it right. For a more modern example look at Russia - it may call itself a democracy, but it sure as hell isn’t one. It will take time to get it right, but time to work through the problems is the only thing that will make it right - continuing a dictatorship will not help.

And all of you that are calling them ‘animlas’ or ‘socially underdeveloped’? That isn’t worthy of any comment at all.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:22 am
 


Jack Phast wrote:
Some of you actually think it would be a good thing if the military kept rule in Egypt? Really? This is a military that is detaining anyone who speaks out against it and trying them in military court. They have used excessive force in putting down peaceful protests, killing over 40 people with tear gas, beating and even live ammunition. Yes, shooting and killing peaceful protesters to try to silence them.

Having a conservative religious group running a country is never a good thing, in my opinion, (hey, look at the States), but it is democracy, and that is what the people choose (at least in the first round of elections) - so that is what they want. They aren’t going to invade Israel or be a threat to anyone in the Western world, if they actually turn into a legitimate democracy, they’ll be too concerned with rebuilding their country.

And transisions to democracy from dictatorships are hard. The first European countries (like France) that made the transition took hundreds of years to get it right. For a more modern example look at Russia - it may call itself a democracy, but it sure as hell isn’t one. It will take time to get it right, but time to work through the problems is the only thing that will make it right - continuing a dictatorship will not help.

And all of you that are calling them ‘animlas’ or ‘socially underdeveloped’? That isn’t worthy of any comment at all.

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:lol: you're funny....oh wait, you're being serious 8O ....in that case [laughat] ROTFL ...you're still funny, as you have no idea what you're talking about.

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And all of you that are calling them ‘animlas’ or ‘socially underdeveloped’? That isn’t worthy of any comment at all.


Yet you did. Carry on because this is entertaining.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:48 pm
 


Jack Phast wrote:
They aren’t going to invade Israel or be a threat to anyone in the Western world, if they actually turn into a legitimate democracy
Their concern rests on that if.


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