[Thanos]

Ran across this just now. If most of this is true (allowing for both historical and contemprary Muslm proaganda) then it helps to show what a pack of vile liars Palin, Gingrich, Geller, Spencer, et al are

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So what should modern Christians think when they hear a Muslim use the word "Cordoba"? Well, I know that Newt hasn't been a Catholic for very long now, but maybe his priest ought to direct him to read a little thing called "The Catholic Encyclopedia". Allow me to quote from the 1917 edition (which has the virtue of being in the public domain and easily searchable) and its entry on Cordoba:

In 786 the Arab caliph, Abd-er Rahman I, began the construction of the great mosque of Cordova, now the cathedral, and compelled many Christians to take part in the preparation of the site and foundations. Though they suffered many vexations, the Christians continued to enjoy freedom of worship, and this tolerant attitude of the ameers seduced not a few Christians from their original allegiance. Both Christians and Arabs co-operated at this time to make Cordova a flourishing city, the elegant refinement of which was unequalled in Europe.

The article then discusses the persecution of the Christians under Abd-ar-Ramman II, which included the martyrdom of St. Eulogius. Then it continues with the rule of those rulers who expanded the Mosque:

In 962 Abd-er Rahman III was succeeded by his son Al-Hakim. Owing to the peace which the Christians of Cordova then enjoyed [...] the citizens of Cordova, Arabs, Christians, and Jews, enjoyed so high a degree of literary culture that the city was known as the New Athens. From all quarters came students eager to drink at its founts of knowledge. Among the men afterwards famous who studied at Cordova were the scholarly monk Gerbert, destined to sit on the Chair of Peter as Sylvester II (999-1003), the Jewish rabbis Moses and Maimonides†, and the famous Spanish-Arabian commentator on Aristotle, Averroes.

So it's easy to see why a group of Muslims creating a community center in the heart of a majority Christian country in a city known for its large Jewish population might name it "The Cordoba House" They're not, as Gingrich hopes we would believe, discreetly laughing at us because "Cordoba" is some double-secret Islamist code for "conquest"; rather, they're hoping to associate themselves with a particular time in medieval history when the largest library in Western Europe was to be found in Cordoba, a city in which scholars of all three major Abrahamic religions were free to study side-by-side.

Of course, what chance does actual history and truth have against the righteous and incoherent rage of FUX News and the Tea Party?

[BartSimpson]

Brenda wrote:

Funny detail: I live in "doukhobor country", and Doukhobors were nothing more or less than terrorists. Christian terrorist. I guess the definition of terrorism is subject to interpretation

People who burn their own homes down are not terrorists, they're idiots.

[ASLplease]

whats with all the towelhead threads? cant we merge them all into 1 thread?

[Brenda]

BartSimpson wrote:

Brenda wrote:

Funny detail: I live in "doukhobor country", and Doukhobors were nothing more or less than terrorists. Christian terrorist. I guess the definition of terrorism is subject to interpretation

People who burn their own homes down are not terrorists, they're idiots.

Isn't it about the ideology behind it?

People who kill others for a reason only they understand are idiots too. So... All idiots are terrorists?

[Yogi]

Brenda wrote:

BartSimpson wrote:

Brenda wrote:

Funny detail: I live in "doukhobor country", and Doukhobors were nothing more or less than terrorists. Christian terrorist. I guess the definition of terrorism is subject to interpretation

People who burn their own homes down are not terrorists, they're idiots.

Isn't it about the ideology behind it?

People who kill others for a reason only they understand are idiots too. So... All idiots are terrorists?

I would say that " All terrorists are idiots"!

[Brenda]

Yogi wrote:

Brenda wrote:

People who kill others for a reason only they understand are idiots too. So... All idiots are terrorists?

I would say that " All terrorists are idiots"!

Oh, definitely. But that doesn't compare to the "all Muslims are terrorists"-idea some people seem to have.

We know that most terrorists today are Muslims. But that does not mean most Muslims (or all) are terrorists.

[andyt]

Brenda wrote:

BartSimpson wrote:

Brenda wrote:

Funny detail: I live in "doukhobor country", and Doukhobors were nothing more or less than terrorists. Christian terrorist. I guess the definition of terrorism is subject to interpretation

People who burn their own homes down are not terrorists, they're idiots.

Isn't it about the ideology behind it?

People who kill others for a reason only they understand are idiots too. So... All idiots are terrorists?

There's Doukhobors and there's sons of freedom. The Dukes were totally non-violent as far as I know. The worst thing they did (saw it in a book when I was young) was have big fat women get naked and sit on cops' faces.

The sons of freedom were terrorists. Went to school with one of their offsrping - he was cool but the elders weren't.