ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Well we stayed out of Iraq when our closest friends and allies went in, right or wrong. I think we should stay mum on this. In hindsight, I think that it was a mistake for NATO ever to have gotten involved in Kosovo.
NO...we stayed out of Iraq because Jean Chretien's son-in-law Andre Desmarais's father Paul Desmarais own's a financial investment/holding company known as the Power Corp. TotaFinaElf in France is owned by the Power Corporation... TotalFinaElf signed an deal with Saddam giving then rights to the Iraqi oil fields...
Needless to say when the USA, UK and Australia liberated Iraq, Andre Desmarais (married to Chertien's daughter) and Paul Desmarais (father of Paul) lost a lot of money....
Power Corporation
http://www.powercorporation.com/index.php?lang=engTotal Fina Elf
http://www.total.com/2001_annual_report ... /1.4.1.htm$1:
André Desmarais
André Desmarais, O.C. (born October 26, 1956, in Ottawa, Ontario) is a Canadian businessman, whose hometown is Montreal, Canada.
He is one of two sons of Paul Desmarais, Sr. He is currently the president and co-chief executive officer of his father's founding company the Power Corporation, based in Montreal, Canada. It is a diversified management and holding company, which has holdings in leading financial services and the communications sector. Through its European-based affiliate Pargesa group, Power Corporation holds significant positions in major media, energy, water, waste services, and specialty minerals companies. Power Corporation also has diversified interests in Asia.
He attended Selwyn House School and later obtained a Bachelor of Commerce from Concordia University, both located in Montreal.
He was appointed as a member of the Hong Kong Chief Executive's Council of International Advisers in the years of 1998-2005[1].
In 2003 he was appointed to the International Council of the JP Morgan Chase Bank. Also in that year he was named an officer of the Order of Canada.
He is married to France Chrétien Desmarais, the daughter of former Prime Minister of Canada Jean Chrétien. They have four children.
Source :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Desmarais$1:
Paul Desmarais
Paul Desmarais, Sr., P.C., C.C., B.Comm, LL.D (born January 4, 1927, in Sudbury, Ontario) is a Canadian financier in Montreal and one of the ten richest persons in Canada (6th richest). He counts among his friends Brian Mulroney, former prime minister of Canada; Jean Chrétien, former prime minister of Canada; the late Pierre Elliot Trudeau, former prime minister of Canada; George H. W. Bush Sr. former President of United States of America; George W. Bush Jr. current President of United States of America and current President of France Nicolas Sarkozy.
After having graduated from Ottawa and McGill Universities, Desmarais began his career at a Montreal accounting firm called Courtois, Fredette et cie, before returning to Sudbury to take the helm of his family's bus service, Sudbury Bus Lines, in 1951. He then acquired additional bus lines in the Ottawa area and Quebec City (including Quebec Autobus and Provincial Transport). By 1968 the holding company which Desmarais had acquired three years earlier, Trans-Canada Corporation Fund (TCCF), owned the bus line Provincial Transport, an interest in Toronto-based Imperial Life Assurance and Gesca Ltée, (which had an interest in the Montreal paper La Presse). That year TCCF made a share-exchange offer with Power Corporation of Canada, headquartered in Montreal, Quebec, whereby Paul Desmarais became Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.
Desmarais' Power Corporation of Canada owns about 15% of Groupe Bruxelles Lambert, a Belgian holding company, which in 2001 acquired a 25% interest in the German media company Bertelsmann, whose subsidiaries include BMG and Random House. Groupe Bruxelles Lambert owns 3.7% of the French oil conglomerate Total. Desmarais has been accused of having close business ties with Saddam Hussein, which Desmarais has denied. Total made a deal with Hussein giving it exploration rights to 25% of Iraq's oil reserves.
In 1974, Desmarais named employee Paul Martin, Jr. as president of a Power Corporation subsidiary, Canada Steamship Lines Inc. In 1981, he sold the company to Laurence Pathy and Paul Martin, Jr. The latter became Prime Minister of Canada on December 12, 2003. In 1978 he was made an Officer of the Order of Canada and was promoted to Companion in 1986. Desmarais is a staunch opponent of the Quebec sovereignty movement.
Paul Desmarais sits on the advisory board of the Carlyle Group.
Desmarais has two sons: Paul Jr. and André (who is married to former Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's daughter France) and two daughters, Sophie and Louise.
As a sign of his connection to the University of Ottawa, a 12-storey building was named in his honour due to his contribution of $15 million dollars to the university.[1].
Bottom line - instead of standing by our natural and long time allies, Chretien stood by his money and put Canada's reputation at risk...AND stood alongside China & Russia....
Let's not do the same mistake once more and this time let's stand by our allies and friends...AND tell China and Russia to kiss our arse...