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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:35 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Still, nothing about 'Muslims'.


If the two they arrested yesterday were anything but Muslims the government would be shouting it from the rooftops because the nationalist and anti-immigrant Sweden Democrat Party is very likely to oust that government in the next election.

But they're not shouting it from the rooftops.

Therefore these two and the majority of the rest (if not all of them) are Muslims.

And Sweden is extremely likely to have a majority anti-immigrant and anti-EU party running their government next month. This action by the Muslims is seriously going to backfire on them because the young people in Sweden are finding their spines and rejecting globalism and the suicidal liberal fascination with radical Islam.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/10 ... -democrats


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:39 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Could be. Could be a Coptic Christian too.

Point being, you guys want to believe something so badly you don't care if there is proof or not.


Come on, knock it off with the Orwellian PC. It's not fooling anyone.

Every other time there's been organized assaults like this in Sweden or anywhere else in Europe it's been the Muslims. You tell me why this time is different?

You can't.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:54 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Still, nothing about 'Muslims'.


If the two they arrested yesterday were anything but Muslims the government would be shouting it from the rooftops because the nationalist and anti-immigrant Sweden Democrat Party is very likely to oust that government in the next election.

But they're not shouting it from the rooftops.

Therefore these two and the majority of the rest (if not all of them) are Muslims.


Circular logic, same as Coulter's "law". "They never say it's Muslims, and they aren't saying, therefore it's Muslims."

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
And Sweden is extremely likely to have a majority anti-immigrant and anti-EU party running their government next month. This action by the Muslims is seriously going to backfire on them because the young people in Sweden are finding their spines and rejecting globalism and the suicidal liberal fascination with radical Islam.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/10 ... -democrats


Which is exactly why it would be a bad idea for Muslims to go on a fire rampage right now, right? How does it make sense to do such a thing when the only political party in your favour is waning and the one wanting to kick you out is waxing?

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Could be. Could be a Coptic Christian too.

Point being, you guys want to believe something so badly you don't care if there is proof or not.


Come on, knock it off with the Orwellian PC. It's not fooling anyone.

Every other time there's been organized assaults like this in Sweden or anywhere else in Europe it's been the Muslims. You tell me why this time is different?

You can't.


Neither can you. There is no proof either way, other than your firm belief it's true. Well, and the Swedish police I quoted that says this happens every year before school starts.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:04 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Bart Bart:
Every other time there's been organized assaults like this in Sweden or anywhere else in Europe it's been the Muslims. You tell me why this time is different?

You can't.


Neither can you.


No, I can't tell you why it's different. That's why I said it's Muslims just like every other time it's happened.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:10 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Bart Bart:
Every other time there's been organized assaults like this in Sweden or anywhere else in Europe it's been the Muslims. You tell me why this time is different?

You can't.


Neither can you.


No, I can't tell you why it's different. That's why I said it's Muslims just like every other time it's happened.


Exactly. You want to believe it's Muslims, even when the Swedish police say this happens every year at this time and don't mention Muslims. But your cognitive bias tells you that they don't say it's Muslims because it's Muslims.

Remember the ISIL flag that was really Dildoes? :idea:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:11 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Bart Bart:
Every other time there's been organized assaults like this in Sweden or anywhere else in Europe it's been the Muslims. You tell me why this time is different?

You can't.


Neither can you.


No, I can't tell you why it's different. That's why I said it's Muslims just like every other time it's happened.


Which begs the question...if it's not Muslims, then who else?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:14 am
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Which begs the question...if it's not Muslims, then who else?



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In a separate statement, Sweden's national police said reasons for such fires are hard to establish and can have different motivations, including provoking authorities, hiding traces in connection with criminal activities and insurance fraud.

Such fires are "not a new phenomenon," Emil Eisersjo of Sweden's national police said. "There is a tendency for a hike in connection with the end of the school year, the beginning of the school year and in the winter when fireworks are on sale" ahead of the New Year.


https://apnews.com/2fb67353376349bca7ba5d4c01d74aac


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:21 am
 


BULLSHIT.

In any case, next month when the right wing takes over the Swedish government we'll get to hear the truth and then we'll get to see the Swedes deporting the shitstains back to whatever shithole they slithered out of.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BULLSHIT.

In any case, next month when the right wing takes over the Swedish government we'll get to hear the truth and then we'll get to see the Swedes deporting the shitstains back to whatever shithole they slithered out of.


What bullshit? All I ever do is go with the facts. We don't know anything about these people who were arrested, and believe me I tried to find some names to give a direction one way or the other. Swedish police apparently don't release arrest reports, and I'm not going to navigate the Swedish court system looking for arrests because I don't write Swedish.

And if the right wing takes over Sweden, the only thing this new era of populist alternative facts will produce is information their base is expecting and in accordance with the base's bias. Facts are not welcome. They become too inconvenient.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:10 am
 


Every other such idiocy in Sweden where cars and sometimes buildings were burned were conducted by Muslims.

Every one of them.

So tell me why it's suddenly possible that this idiocy, which took place in majority Muslim neighborhoods, would not be Muslims?

And if it isn't Muslims burning cars and structures in Muslim-majority areas then why isn't the government predictably calling this a hate crime? :idea:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:18 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Police report two arrests.
There is a start.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Every other such idiocy in Sweden where cars and sometimes buildings were burned were conducted by Muslims.

Every one of them.


So you say. I have neither the time nor the interest to dispute that. I'm only dealing with this, because the title that skewed away from what I was reading caught my interest.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
So tell me why it's suddenly possible that this idiocy, which took place in majority Muslim neighborhoods, would not be Muslims?


The articles I've read say nothing about that. What they do say is the police find these events widespread and predictable. I find them predictable too, as incidents of vandalism to my vehicles and property also occur at the end of summer as well. No muslims though.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
And if it isn't Muslims burning cars and structures in Muslim-majority areas then why isn't the government predictably calling this a hate crime? :idea:


Again, no evidence that these are in "Muslim Majority" areas. Perhaps that's why they are not 'hate crimes' but rather simple vandalism? If you have credible evidence to the contrary, I'm always open to it.


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There was a case we heard about here at CKA where a Swedish woman was gang-raped by a group of men on a ferry. At first the Swedish media was calling them Swedes. Eventually the truth got out. They were Muslims from East Africa.

In Sweden that's the way the media does it. That's not the exception. That's the rule. When they report on these riots they call the Muslim hordes perpetrating them out of the no-go zones "Youths."

The Swedish administration have stopped giving demographic data on perpetrators of certain crimes.

$1:
Interestingly, between 1995-2006, the Swedish government tracked gang rapes, identifying a drastically increasing trend. Unbelievably, after discovering the problem, it then adopted an ostrich-like “head in the sand” approach, terminating any further studies on them .


http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/swede ... pan-didnt/

However the information gets out. Progressive propaganda outfits like Snopes might want to pretend the obvious isn't happening because apparently the police at times can get into at least certain areas of the no-go zones but there's video evidence of them preferring to avoid even the main drags. So maybe it's time to observe the obvious:



There's another one of journalist Tim Pool getting ushered out of a Swedish no-go zone. The police tell him they can't protect him.

Did you hear the Swedish guy the reporter was interviewing in the video above telling you most of the people in the no-go zone were Muslims from East Africa.

Put these two titles together:

Muslim Gangs Take Control of 55 Zones in Sweden



Sweden cars: 80 set on fire by "GANGS" in several cities

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45181321

Gatestone is Counter-Jihadi but I don't remember them ever being caught in a lie.

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In 2017, a Swedish police report, "Utsatta områden 2017", ("Vulnerable Areas 2017", commonly known as "no-go zones" or lawless areas) showed that there are 61 such areas in Sweden. They encompass 200 criminal networks, consisting of an estimated 5,000 criminals. Twenty-three of those areas were especially critical: children as young as 10 had been involved in serious crimes there, including ones involving weapons and drugs. Most of the inhabitants were non-Western, mainly Muslim, immigrants.



https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1229 ... -free-fall

Still, I imagine Doc would prefer something like Wikipedia. Personally I find Wikipedia stilted almost to the point of uselessness for the Islam issue but here ya go:

$1:
In a 2017 interview with the conservative opinion magazine Weekly Standard's Paulina Neuding (sv), Gordon Grattidge, the head of the Swedish ambulance drivers' union, stated that there were areas where it is too dangerous for rescue workers to enter without police protection, using the English term "no-go zones" to describe them.[58][59][60]

In March 2015, journalist Henrik Höjer discussed the rise of criminality, especially organized crime, in various neighborhoods within Sweden since the mid-1990s, especially in the city of Malmö. He interviewed a police officer and task force chief who referred to such areas as "no go areas" and wrote that gangs like to lay claim to an area by throwing stones at mailmen, police, firefighters and ambulances who enter the area.[61]

In February 2016, a news crew for Australia's 60 Minutes working with anti-immigration activist Jan Sjunnesson[62][63] reported having come under attack, including allegedly having stones thrown on them and a car running over the foot of a cameraman who was trying to prevent it from leaving in the immigrant-dominated district of Rinkeby of Stockholm.[64] 60 Minutes published the video, on which reporter Liz Hayes says "there are now 55 declared no-go zones in Sweden."[65]

A 10-minute December 2016 film by FoxNews.com's Ami Horowitz, Stockholm Syndrome, focused on violence by Muslim immigrants within Sweden, and included an interview with two policemen who seemed to confirm that there are no-go areas for police in Sweden.[66] During the interview, one officer states, "If the police is chasing another car for some kind of crime, if they reach what we call 'no-go areas', the police won't go after it."[67] The police officers later objected to the interview and said that their quotes had been taken out of context, and a videographer who worked on the film supported the officers' account, saying the video was cut together unethically.[68] The documentary gained significant attention several months later when U.S. President Donald Trump indirectly alluded to it in a speech.[69] The film as a whole, and its description of no-go areas, have both been disputed by sources within Sweden; the Swedish The Local quoted a police spokesperson as saying that, though there are areas "characterized by, among other things, the difficulty for the police to fulfill its duty", "There are no guidelines that the police should not visit these areas".[70] The description of no-go zones was also disputed by several sources, including the interviewed policemen.[71]


From the Daily Caller:

SWEDISH POLICE RELEASE EXTENSIVE REPORT DETAILING CONTROL OF 55 ‘NO-GO ZONES’ BY MUSLIM CRIMINAL GANGS

$1:
Swedish police have ceded control over 55 “no-go zones” to predominately Muslim criminal gangs.

An extensive report mapping out 55 no-go zones was released Oct. 24, showing where law enforcement has all but handed control to criminal gangs.

Officers frequently face outright attacks when trying to enter the areas, which is a step up from the previous problem with attacks on mailmen, fire trucks, ambulances and similar services. Fire trucks and ambulances had to wait for police escort to enter the areas, but now the police themselves need protection.

The no-go areas heavily coincide with the map of the 186 “exclusion areas” aka. crowded, predominantly Muslim immigrant ghettos, where education is low, employment is lower and the only local business thriving is drug dealing.


http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/02/swedi ... nal-gangs/

These rioters, or as the media prefers to call them, "youths," are coming out of the no-go zones. The no-go zones are majority Muslim. What more do you need?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:51 am
 


https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-police- ... nes-628029

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ARE THERE NO-GO ZONES IN SWEDEN? POLICE IDENTIFY DOZENS OF 'VULNERABLE AREAS' RIFE WITH CRIMINALITY

Swedish police have named dozens of “vulnerable areas” marred by criminality in a report released Wednesday.

The study, an update on previous report from 2015, names 61 places with low socio-economic status where criminality has a significant effect on the community, The Local reported.

Those living in these places are often also vulnerable to religious radicalization.

Police refer to these as “vulnerable areas.” In the past, the Swedish right-wing press have referred to them as “no-go zones,” but the police have repeatedly rejected the term.


This article lists the new additions to the list and note that Gothenburg is right in there as a Muslim-controlled 'no-go' zone.

https://www.thelocal.se/20170612/especi ... den-report

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According to DN, the new especially vulnerable areas are: Norrby and Hässleholmen/Hulta in Borås, Tynnered/Grevegården/Opaltorget in Gothenburg, Karlslund in Landskrona, Nydala/Hermodsdal/Lindängen in Malmö, Fittja and Alby in Stockholm and Gottsunda in Uppsala.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:59 am
 


Progressive ostriches refuse to see.

Progstriches.


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