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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:29 pm
 


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This should result in severe repercussions for the Saudi regime.


This should but it won't.

Just like Canada should cancel the $15 Billion deal for the LAVs.

The West (including Canada) has been in bed with Saudi Arabia for decades so we could have access to cheap oil. If we were smart, we would have kneecapped them after the oil embargo in the 70s, but cheap oil was more powerful than our principles.

Sadly, I assume the same thing will happen again after this horrific incident, because the only alternative oil supply is Russia, Venezuela and other human rights abusers in Africa. Had we been smart enough to build 10,000+ KMs of pipelines like the US in the past decade, we could supply our own, but we were too mired in BS to do it.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:03 pm
 


(Posted an hour ago by the Beeb)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45960865

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Trump calls Khashoggi murder 'worst cover-up in history'

US President Donald Trump has called Saudi Arabia's response to the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi "the worst cover-up ever".

He added that whoever organised the plot "should be in big trouble".

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said, shortly afterwards, that the US "will punish those responsible" and is revoking visas of 21 identified suspects.

The US has faced pressure to toughen its stance on Saudi Arabia, a key ally.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Mr Trump said: "They had a very bad original concept, it was carried out poorly and the cover up was the worst in the history of cover-ups."

"Where it should have stopped is at the deal standpoint, when they thought about it," he continued. "Because whoever thought of that idea, I think is in big trouble. And they should be in big trouble."

The Saudi kingdom has provided conflicting accounts of what happened to Khashoggi, a US resident and Washington Post contributor. After weeks of maintaining he was still alive, the authorities now say the 59-year-old was killed in a rogue operation after visiting the Saudi consulate in Turkey.

Mr Pompeo told reporters he is working on other measures against the suspected killers

In a news conference at the State Department in Washington, Mr Pompeo said that he and the president were "not happy with the situation".

"We're making very clear that the United States does not tolerate this ruthless action to silence Khashoggi, a journalist, through violence," he said.

When asked whether the US would accept Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's explanation of the incident, Mr Pompeo said: "We're going to accept what America learns."

"We have people working all across the world to put our own understanding together. We have to develop our own data set. We will learn the facts ourselves."

Earlier on Tuesday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told MPs from his ruling party that the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi was planned days in advance.

He said Turkey had strong evidence Khashoggi was killed in a premeditated and "savage" murder at the consulate in Istanbul on 2 October.

He also called for the suspects to be tried in Istanbul.

Many world leaders have condemned the murder of the prominent Saudi critic and demanded a full investigation.

While Mr Trump has ramped up his criticisms of Saudi officials, he has also highlighted the kingdom's importance as a US ally. CIA director Gina Haspel has been sent to Turkey to review the matter.

State media also said the king and the crown prince had held a meeting in Riyadh with members of the Khashoggi family, including Khashoggi's son, Salah bin Jamal.

Saudi Arabia has given conflicting accounts up to now, initially saying Khashoggi had left the building alive, then later saying that he had been killed in a "fist-fight" inside the consulate.

On Sunday, the Saudi foreign minister acknowledged Khashoggi had been murdered but said the leadership had not been aware of the "rogue operation".

"The individuals who did this did this outside the scope of their authority," Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told Fox News. "There obviously was a tremendous mistake made, and what compounded the mistake was the attempt to try to cover up."

He said that Saudi Arabia did not know where the body was.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:17 pm
 


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Oh. Sorry about that.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
(Posted an hour ago by the Beeb)


The Brit media has also been going crazy over this, with the usual
hand wringing and 'oh we should stop selling weapons and blah blah'.

Until it gets pointed out the Saudis do share a lot of intelligence
about terrorism, oh and the Saudis could crash the oil market again,
and with Brexit economy blah blah, and then the moralists shut up when they
realize...


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